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TSMC's 5nm yields reportedly cross 7nm, AMD hinted as a customer for Zen 4's 2021 launch

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2019/12/07 00:28:23 (permalink)
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TSMC is set to move to its 5nm lithography process, and reports are claiming that it's yields are already better than today's 7nm node, having already passed 50%. That said, yields depend on many factors, including die size and silicon complexity. While this news is encouraging for TSMC and its customers, it is by no means a guarantee that customers will be able to expect better yields on 5nm than they currently achieve on 7nm. 

Plenty of websites have reported that China Times has confirmed that AMD will be a customer for TSMC's 5nm manufacturing process, and in our eyes, this claim is false. Our translation of the article says that AMD is "expected" to grab some of TSMC's first wave of 5nm capacity and that AMD's Zen 4 architecture is "almost certain" to use TSMC's 5nm processor. 
This is a major problem with using foreign media as a source, as it is too easy to mistranslate or to lose the meaning of a sentence in translation. Regardless, our reading of the article on China Times offers nothing more than speculation regarding AMD, only citing that the reports that they've seen include Apple's A14 and HiSilicon's next-generation Kirin processors. 

TSMC's 5nm node is expected to help increase the power efficiency of future processors and to increase the silicon density of future devices by as much as 80%. When comparing an ARM Cortex A72 CPU core on 7nm and 5nm, TSMC stated that they could increase logic density by 1.8x and boost is operation speeds by 15% or reduce its power consumption by 30%. 
 
TSMC has already increased its quarterly spending to help prepare for the company's high demands for both 7nm and 5nm silicon. With AMD's recent growth and the increased popularity of Apple's latest iPhones, TSMC's 7nm capacity is reportedly at its limits, which is great news for TSMC if it can steadily increase its productivity. 5nm will be an important node for future mobile devices and desktop-grade processors, allowing chipmakers to pack its technology into smaller and smaller form factors. This factor will be critical as 5G continues to grow in popularity, and as microprocessors continue to increase in complexity. 
 
It seems to me that AMD sticking to TSMC as its fab was the very best choice going forward. 

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    Re: TSMC's 5nm yields reportedly cross 7nm, AMD hinted as a customer for Zen 4's 2021 laun 2019/12/07 07:05:43 (permalink)
    Maybe AMD will Stop using Chiplets @ 5nm

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    Re: TSMC's 5nm yields reportedly cross 7nm, AMD hinted as a customer for Zen 4's 2021 laun 2019/12/08 19:34:15 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Maybe AMD will Stop using Chiplets @ 5nm




    It'll never happen if AMD keeps upping core counts. The chiplet design is giving them a lot of supply flexibility across their entire product stack too. 
     
    What gets me is Intel has yet to announce PCie 4.0 plans, DDR5 plans, or anything <10nm. It's 7nm GPUs are apparently going to be fabbed by TSMC. So in less than two years AMD will launch Zen 4 on a 5nm process, with DDR5, PCIe 4.0, and it may be competing against a 10nm PCie 3.0 chip on DDR4 from Intel. I find it hard to believe, but if it happens Intel's reputation is going to crumble. 


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