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2022/05/15 12:04:53 (permalink)
Is it possible to swap the HYDRO COPPER waterblock from an
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER GAMING, 12G-P5-3969-KR,
onto an
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 24G-P5-3987-RX ?
 
Although, is there a list or someone who may knows which cards would accept the HYDRO COPPER cooler from the above 3080 Ti?
 
The reason I am asking is that I currently run the Hydro Copper card in my custom loop gaming rig and want to purchase a 3090 for this rig. I would give the 3080 Ti to my son which runs on air. Would be great if I can get the coolers swapped.
 
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I have edited this post with the correct model number. Thanks to you all for your replies!
Sorry for the time delay but had some medical issues.
Aug 2022 /Still looking for a confirm on the above.
post edited by sn1pemare - 2022/08/08 18:53:40
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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/15 12:28:50 (permalink)
I doubt it..

Best to buy your son a pump/res and 360 rad..

And get yourself the 3090ti instead cause it will cool much better on air then the regular 3090 as the 3090 has mem chips on both sides.. while the 3090ti has mem on one side and a larger heatsink for better cooling and higher power limit.

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/15 13:05:17 (permalink)
The problem is that he doesn't want to water cool and furthermore I can't t fit a loop into his tiny case even if I wanted to.
The 3090 ti would be nice if I could buy it from EVGA but the only options are the 3090 non- ti because they have them in B-stock here and there.
 
However, this wasn't my question.
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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/15 13:17:52 (permalink)
Um guessing if you went to EK's web site and looked for a water block for a certain card it will show you a naked pic of the card. Thrn you can compare them visually to see if their is any chance.. but very doubtful.

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/15 13:35:44 (permalink)
Man those b stock prices seen awfully high. Same price for retail.. and with the $200 off most of the 3090ti's your better off going that way for a little more.

Sell the other card.. but I'm sure your son would regret that desicion after dealing eith those temps on a small case from what he could of had with water.

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/15 13:44:26 (permalink)
I know the EK Vector Block for 3080 is also compatible with 3080Ti and 3090 iirc....so would think possibly the same for the Evga HC Block.....I'm sure someone can confirm.

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/15 14:28:44 (permalink)
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I know the EK Vector Block for 3080 is also compatible with 3080Ti and 3090 iirc....so would think possibly the same for the Evga HC Block.....I'm sure someone can confirm.


Yes.. that's maybe a possibility but then ya hit that snag of a stock 3080ti cooler on the 3090.

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/15 16:57:40 (permalink)
No, the PCB is different between the XC3 and FTW3. Definitely can't swap.
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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/16 01:59:30 (permalink)
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No, the PCB is different between the XC3 and FTW3. Definitely can't swap.



Right !!!! Good one....!

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/16 02:35:52 (permalink)
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No, the PCB is different between the XC3 and FTW3. Definitely can't swap.



Right !!!! Good one....!




But now I see the confusion.  The thread title has FTW to FTW.  Probably could do that as the PCB is the same between 3080/3080ti/3090 FTW3.
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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/05/16 19:30:30 (permalink)
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No, the PCB is different between the XC3 and FTW3. Definitely can't swap.



Right !!!! Good one....!




But now I see the confusion.  The thread title has FTW to FTW.  Probably could do that as the PCB is the same between 3080/3080ti/3090 FTW3.




Yeah would be ok as all PCB's are the same ...well assuming they are as EK blocks are compatible with all....I though you read back and found XC3 vs FTW3 ......then I read back and saw FTW3 .... lol....ok how confused are we all now.....to OP, just leave the Stock Air cooler on ;)

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2022/08/08 18:47:07 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2023/05/24 14:20:40
SOLVED.

OK, I just received my RTX 3090 FTW3 today! The waterblock from the EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Hydro Copper is not compatible with the 3090. The capacitors on the 3090 are much taller and will not allow the block to fit.
I have ordered a block from PerformancePCs and hope to get it this week.
 
I did not even try to put the air cooler from the 3090 onto the 3080 ti FTW instead I am going to build a custom case with him over the summer holidays and add a custom water loop and he can use his old card with the existing case as his lanbox when he goes to his friends playing games.
 
Thank you all for your input! Have a great day!
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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2023/05/23 11:40:25 (permalink)
is that actually true that the 3080, 3080ti, and 3090 all use the same pcb? then why does EK bother making different model waterblocks for each of the three?
post edited by FractalCode - 2023/05/23 11:41:38
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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2023/05/23 12:12:18 (permalink)
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is that actually true that the 3080, 3080ti, and 3090 all use the same pcb? then why does EK bother making different model waterblocks for each of the three?

I don't know if that is 100% true, but if it is true, the PCB may be essentially the same, but I bet there would be component variations where component dimensions/thicknesses change enough that a rigid waterblock would damage one or the other. AIBs can get away with variations better if they use thick thermal pads or thermal putty (as many use), but EK probably can't utilize a thernal putty solution without negatively affecting its performance and marketing.

EK has good customer support, why not ask them directly?

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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2023/05/23 17:55:51 (permalink)
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is that actually true that the 3080, 3080ti, and 3090 all use the same pcb? then why does EK bother making different model waterblocks for each of the three?


Interesting, all of EKWB blocks that I see show ftw3 3080/3090 or xc3 3080/3090 with a compatability of 3080, 3080ti, and 3090. Where are you seeing different blocks for each of the three?
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Re: Swapping Coolers from EVGA RTX 3080 TI FTW HC to EVGA RTX 3090 FTW 2023/05/24 07:45:46 (permalink)
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is that actually true that the 3080, 3080ti, and 3090 all use the same pcb? then why does EK bother making different model waterblocks for each of the three?

I don't know if that is 100% true, but if it is true, the PCB may be essentially the same, but I bet there would be component variations where component dimensions/thicknesses change enough that a rigid waterblock would damage one or the other. AIBs can get away with variations better if they use thick thermal pads or thermal putty (as many use), but EK probably can't utilize a thernal putty solution without negatively affecting its performance and marketing.

EK has good customer support, why not ask them directly?



I looked further into this, and I think FractalCode is looking at something wrong, but the user seems to post once every 1.5 years or so, so I don't think we will find out where they were looking at directly. There is only "4" versions (technically only 2, but also two active backplates) of the 3080/3080ti/3090 block.  There is the 3080/3090 Vector, 3080/3090 Vector ABP (Active Backplate), 3080/3090 Vector2, and 3080/3090 Vector2 ABP.  There is not three separate blocks for the models. 
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