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2019/10/31 08:43:04 (permalink)
I'm Asking for Suggestions & Feedback from the EVGA Forums Community



I've been planning for a few years on my next TV upgrade from my current Samsung 55 inch 

The Samsung QLED Q7D look to be the sweet spot with the Current Samsung promotion pricing at all approved dealers.
Samsung 82" Class - Q7D Series - 4K UHD QLED LCD TV
 
Both Costco & Sams Club push the factory 1 yr warranty to 5 yr of in home warranty coverage & free shipping
 
 
The 75 inch & 82 inch are attractive, big & heavy.  I use HDMI to port the sound through my receiver
 
 
 
I do not have a home theater room & ambient light is an issue. 
 
1) these are 2019 models - when do the 2020 TV usually drop ?
 
2) Best wall mount system for this 96 lbs monster ? ---> Looking at the Kanto PMX700
 
3) Some TV model reviews seem unhappy with the current Samsung Remote / controls -- Is this an issue for you ? "OneRemote"
 
4)  Kanto PMX700 --> is there a Better mount out there ?  I only know of this because it was on the Samsung site ($264 with special discount)
 
5) Comcast does not offer 4K TV signal, so the Performance of upscaling is important to me



Feedback from anyone who owns a Samsung QLED, or an 82 inch TV or knows more than I've learned reading reviews (low bar here)
 
Anyone know of any special discount coupons that may save even more $$$ ?
 
Thank You for your input
 
 
 
 (edit title remove 75 inch size - going with an 82)
(edit #2 title change  Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D  82 size & wall mounting & Calibration)
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 11:22:37 (permalink)
I just bought one of these. The panels on the Sony TV's are supposed to be some of the best... Mine isn't set up and installed yet, so I can't really give any actual feedback on it right now. The Sony 900 series is pretty nice, but their OLED panels are amazing.
 
The Samsung QLED TV's looked great but they wanted a bit too much... and that 82" model you are looking at didn't really look as nice as the other 80-85" panels they had next to them. I'd love a 9 series QLED from Samsung, especially since they can do 4K @ 120Hz. I didn't really think I would care much about the blacks when watching TV, but on these huge panels... It's very noticeable when you have a panel this large. That's what made me start looking towards Sony. -- With Samsung I feel like I know i'm going to get a decent user experience though... so if the smart TV interface is a factor for you, you should probably stick to Samsung.

The LG Nano Cell 86" TV they had was probably the best picture I saw when I was up there, but the price was $3200 the day I went shopping... If it were at the price it is now, I would have probably went for it.
 
If you have a Best Buy or any kind of electronics place that will carry these large panels, I highly recommend getting out to one of those stores and take a look at them to see what you want.Luckily I had a Nebraska Furniture Mart next to me and they display like 16 different TV's that are 80"+. Where Best Buy had a few, but not that many.

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 11:57:31 (permalink)
1. From what I've seen, they don't release next years model til that year arrives, so maybe March or later (unlike say cars where the 2020 model is sold in summer 2019 or something) So I'd say another 6 months perhaps.
2. Haven't used a wall mount before, so can't offer any advice there of note.
3. the problems I've had with their one remote is that it may or may not decide to control other things, regardless of if you set it up manually (in fact for me, just letting it auto-control things work better than setting up it's universal remote settings)
4. same as 2.
5. In my experience compression does far more damage to the picture quality than it being at 1080p/4k, (and broadcast TV gets a lot more compression than streaming anything does when I had it anyway) because when I look closely, I see compression artifacts first, to the point where any other problems seem trivial (if I notice them at all) So I don't really know how well the upscaling works. Sure the new, better 4k TV looks a lot better than my Cheaper one, but in a way I don't think has anything to do with scaling. (the AI upscaling that Nvidia's Latest shield works very well however, far more than whatever Samsung has build in, as I can tell and improvement for one)


 
 
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 12:13:14 (permalink)
@ RainStryke
 
OLEDs do have great pictures; but, life & burn are reasons I avoid them.  I read that they are Best in dark rooms & ambient rooms are best served by LED
 
Too many stations have their logo constant On the screen ..... gerrrr & News station banners
 
Ive got a few choices & an in person view is the next step - thank you for sharing your observations - might go 75 inch if 83 looks washed
 
I also like the 9 series ...& 900 8K .... except the price $$$$$$
 
These Q7D have nice features: Direct Full Array 4X, HDR10, HDR10+, HLG, 120 Hz, Motion Rate 240
 
Samsung link 82 inch Q7D
 
 
Do you plan on wall mounting your TV ?
 



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thank you for your reply, Yes - compression is a concern - I've seen artifacts that repeat when I backup the DVR
 
- I noticed the new Nvidia shield & AI upscaling  plan B for sure
 
- OK so your remote is ..... not a smooth experience ... is it a constant issue ... does Auto function OK
 
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 12:25:38 (permalink)
I have a Q7 series and absolutely love it.  I have the 75 inch version. No problems whatsoever with light from the windows during the day.   It has a smart hub that senses all my peripherals.   Picture is breathtaking.  I would get at least a 75.   The hub and the single small line that goes up to the TV makes cable management a piece of cake.   The only thing I wish I had is native picture frame pictures built into the OS like the next series has.   Which I think came out a year later.  I've had mine a little over a year.   Fast action movies do great.   Color quality is the best I've ever had.   If it ever breaks,  I would replace it in a heartbeat.    Prices are really good now on Q series.  

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 12:38:18 (permalink)
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I have a Q7 series and absolutely love it.  I have the 75 inch version. No problems whatsoever with light from the windows during the day.   It has a smart hub that senses all my peripherals.   Picture is breathtaking.  I would get at least a 75.   The hub and the single small line that goes up to the TV makes cable management a piece of cake.   The only thing I wish I had is native picture frame pictures built into the OS like the next series has.   Which I think came out a year later.  I've had mine a little over a year.   Fast action movies do great.   Color quality is the best I've ever had.   If it ever breaks,  I would replace it in a heartbeat.    Prices are really good now on Q series.  


 
Thank you for the feedback
 
I was looking at the 75 inch screen ones first - then my wife asks: What about this 82 inch one  ? I was shocked I'm like OK but the Q7D is better
 
Did not think she would go for a 82 inches screen.  You know the typical answer when talking new TV is : Whats wrong with this TV ?
 
So the good news is I just need to pull the trigger ...... and hope the Black Friday specials do not beat this price or offer a better TV for the same price
 


I need to get to the store & evaluate the picture quality firsthand
 
 
Anyone have words of Wisdom - about Calibration for the screen ?

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 13:16:16 (permalink)
I didn't do much for calibration.  May of set the vivid setting.   82 if your space will provide for it.  Picture where your TV will hang..  How far back is the seating position.   I am about 20 feet back from my 75 and feel good about it.  I'd do an 82 at that distance too.   But at the time, the 82 was lots more expensive.   One other thing, if there is a black scene on TV,  you don't know your TV is one, its so black.   It's really neat you don't see any backlight at all 
 
dont' lay the TV flat when transporting.   always in the up position.  I'd pay for delivery for a TV that size so you know it gets to your door in good shape or they pay for it if it breaks.  Screens that size can fluctuate and crack if laid flat in transport

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 13:29:57 (permalink)
Good point - distance from seating
 
Primary seating is say 12 - 15 ft depends where one sits -- Secondary seating in the great room @ 25 ft .... kitchen even farther
 
edit found these:
The science behind our TV size and distance calculator
cnet How big a TV should I buy?
 
 
 
I've been Debating delivery options:  #3 seems the easiest, I'm not in a rush
 
1) enclosed trailer (torsion axles) - still not the smoothest ride < 22 miles
 
2) Borrowing a friends "bus" the rear door would be perfect for loading, though I would need help loading that high up
 
3) Paid delivery to inside the house / free delivery - if I have to have the store ship the TV to me
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 13:37:53 (permalink)
I put mine upright in the back of my pickup.  I was on pins and needles for 10 miles.    I drove like an old lady.  worth it for delivery and have a couple of guys to help hang it if you are going that way.  
 

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 20:08:57 (permalink)
Anyone have any thoughts on the wall mount ? 
 
I have no idea if I'll need the full motion type - just thought I would keep my options open
 
PMX700
Full Motion TV Mount – Pro Series
TV Size 42″ – 100″
Max Weight 150 lb (68 kg)
Supports VESA 200×100 – 700×500
Extends 2.6″ – 31″ (6.6cm – 79.5cm)
Horizontal Offset 22″ (55.8cm) of total offset
 

TOOLLESS TILT MECHANISM

Effortlessly tilt your TV 12° forward or 3° backward with the PMX700’s newly designed toolless tilt mechanism.
 

SWIVELS UP TO 180 DEGREES

Achieve the best viewing angle regardless of where you’re sitting by swivelling your TV up to 90 degrees left or right, depending on screen size.

SLEEK CABLE MANAGEMENT

Four cable management raceways located on the bottom of each arm help to keep your viewing area tidy.




 
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/10/31 20:35:44 (permalink)
A tv that size. You dont need all that swivel stuff.  Keep it simple.  Ive yet to move my tv 

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/01 08:01:14 (permalink)
today I'm trying to make a trip to the local stores & see what these Screens look like in person

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/01 10:29:50 (permalink)
Forgot to mention the wall mount... My 65" has a basic wall mount that can tilt a little bit, but not much. It's a real pain to get behind the TV and hook up anything like audio or a new HDMI connection. This time around I went with one that can be pulled out a little bit. The wall mount with the swivel was quite a bit more expensive and I honestly never see my self actually using it for this new TV. I can't wait, it's getting installed tomorrow morning. Just make sure you get one that allows you to pull the TV out a few inches, so you can get behind it if needed.
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 75 & 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/01 10:54:23 (permalink)
yeah, that's what I got.  the one that pulls out a few inches. 

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/03 10:34:58 (permalink)
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I checked the -  LG Nano Cell 86" TV - you mentioned while a BB.  The one on display had some dead pixels - Not a good first impression & I found many mixed reviews on line.  I agree the picture was nice.  Thanks for Mentioning that TV - or I'd have never even looked at it
 
 
 
The Samsung Q70 was a excellent picture   ... those Q80 are Nicer ... Not $1500 Nicer IMO
 
I confirmed with Samsung Support ---> that the Big Box Q7D is "Exactly the Same specs" as the Q70
 
My current 55 inch Samsung LED TV is 10 yr old (looked at Mfg date) and still outstanding 1080p picture
 
Going 82 inch size for sure (edit original Title to remove 75 inch)
 
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/03 13:10:09 (permalink)
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/03 15:44:30 (permalink)
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I checked the -  LG Nano Cell 86" TV - you mentioned while a BB.  The one on display had some dead pixels - Not a good first impression & I found many mixed reviews on line.  I agree the picture was nice.  Thanks for Mentioning that TV - or I'd have never even looked at it
 
 
 
The Samsung Q70 was a excellent picture   ... those Q80 are Nicer ... Not $1500 Nicer IMO
 
I confirmed with Samsung Support ---> that the Big Box Q7D is "Exactly the Same specs" as the Q70
 
My current 55 inch Samsung LED TV is 10 yr old (looked at Mfg date) and still outstanding 1080p picture
 
Going 82 inch size for sure (edit original Title to remove 75 inch)
 
Last Call for Comments & Suggestions ---> TV or wall Mounts ... placing my order is imminent





The one I saw seemed flawless, but I know how that is... If I see a flaw on the display model it really drives me away from considering it as an option, cause no one wants to deal with a defective unit out of the box, running you through a return process that would be an absolute pain with a large TV.

I found the Wall Mount I went with: Here
 
It's perfect, I can get behind the TV if I need. It's holding this TV up with no problems at all.

My new Sony 85" is now installed and looks awesome. Just got it installed on Saturday.
 

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/03 15:55:03 (permalink)
don't remember the cost but I believe I have the samsung no gap wall mount which does allow me to pull out the tv

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D series looking at 82 size & wall mounting 2019/11/03 16:05:35 (permalink)
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don't remember the cost but I believe I have the samsung no gap wall mount which does allow me to pull out the tv




Oh nice, looks pretty good with it up to the wall that close. I see they make one for the 82"... Not sure if it's only for the Q9 series though:
https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/television-home-theater-accessories/televisions/no-gap-wall-mount-for-82-q-series-tv-2019-q90r-q900r-2018-q900r-wmn-r30eb-za/

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/03 16:53:06 (permalink)
Thanks for all the Help guys
 
Now I need to learn about Calibrating the screen next. 
 
Does anyone know of a Good App that lets a newer cell phone do this ? (Samsung Note 8)
 
What is a good inexpensive kit - if such a thing exists ?
 
 This look interesting:  How to Calibrate Your TV   &   Why TV Calibration Matters
 
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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/05 07:52:44 (permalink)
This looks promising - though the wall mount looks a little small - may need to put plywood on the wall first to span two studs

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/05 08:11:06 (permalink)
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This looks promising - though the wall mount looks a little small - may need to put plywood on the wall first to span two studs

Samsung    WMN5870XR Large Size Full-Tilt Wall Mount (76”+) 

Full-Tilt Wall Mount Designed for use with 2017-2019 76" & above Samsung TVs. Tilts 10 to 15 Degrees. Swivels Left and Right 20 Degrees.


That's the one I have.  I used heavy duty anchors at the four corners and made sure the center eyelets was secured into a stud.  It wont move and you won't need any modification.   Just make sure you find the stud, use the center eyelets to secure beafy screws and washers.    That one allows the TV to sit pretty flat to the wall, and you can pull the whole tv out if you need to and tilt.  But any Tilting with a tv that size makes me nervous.   

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/05 13:01:41 (permalink)
and the Winner is: Kanto PMX700 --> on the Samsung site ($264 with special discount)
 
Reasons:
 
1) Distance from wall not a big issue for me - my wall mounted Center & front speakers will stick out More from the wall @ 4.5 in.
 
2) I really like the idea of being able to move the TV arms up to 8 inches left/right of Center.  This should allow me to mount into 2-wall studs & still center TV
 
 

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/07 18:01:51 (permalink)
Wall mount arrived today ... that was fast
 
TV looks to be Tuesday ....

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/13 06:43:40 (permalink)
TV delivery - now moved to Thursday  .... sigh

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/13 08:39:14 (permalink)
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TV delivery - now moved to Thursday  .... sigh




Nice! -- Make sure to really test it out when you get it. The wife and I have been watching a ton of Star Trek DS9 and I started to notice some odd backlight bleed through the whole panel. I found a black screen video to test on youtube and noticed it was really bad. It's going back on Monday and i'll get the next model up in replacement.



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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/13 11:12:39 (permalink)
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 I started to notice some odd backlight bleed through the whole panel. I found a black screen video to test on youtube and noticed it was really bad. It's going back on Monday and i'll get the next model up in replacement.
 



Are you sure it's just not Ghosts !?!?   
 That is pretty severe looking bleed...

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/14 11:38:54 (permalink)
thanks RainStryke, I'll try that test
 
Still waiting for that pre-delivery Call 1/2 Hr before delivery by 4 ........ the day is getting late, at least it is above 40 again

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/14 11:51:23 (permalink)
I'd call them at that point. They should tell you if they are running late, just as a courtesy, but not all delivery services do that...

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Re: Suggestions & Comments Samsung QLED Q7D 82 size & wall mounting & Calibration 2019/11/14 21:54:41 (permalink)
Anything new?

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