kinet3k
New Member
- Total Posts : 10
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2016/06/23 17:16:40
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
EVGA step-up used to be a great feature, but now EVGA is just too greedy.
12G-P5-4877-KL is $1.299 through step-up and $1000 through EVGA website/Amazon/newegg (with free ship, which I didn't even want to mention)? You gotta be kidding me. You are basically offering $100 for the card I paid $500 just a month ago. What's the point of advertising step-up program if the sole purpose of it is to rip customer off? It's cheaper to flip the card on ebay and buy it again, than to use step-up program.
Looks like getting bonvoyed is getting more and more common. The only thing you guys are missing is the only outcome of this rip-off would be loyal customers kissing you good bye. It's better marketing strategy not to advertise this program at all.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/02 18:28:39
(permalink)
You give very little context, which card are you talking about stepping up from? Where is EVGA offering $100 for something you paid $500 for?
No, the step up program isn’t ripping people off. It’s not meant for everyone, and if it doesn’t benefit you, don’t use it.
|
kinet3k
New Member
- Total Posts : 10
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2016/06/23 17:16:40
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/05 18:17:19
(permalink)
So now we have for $829 in stock and the only step up option for 3060TI is same GPU but with 12 gigs of RAM for $1299. Great job EVGA. 
|
kinet3k
New Member
- Total Posts : 10
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2016/06/23 17:16:40
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/05 18:21:45
(permalink)
the_Scarlet_one
You give very little context, which card are you talking about stepping up from? Where is EVGA offering $100 for something you paid $500 for?
No, the step up program isn’t ripping people off. It’s not meant for everyone, and if it doesn’t benefit you, don’t use it.
How exactly am I supposed to use the program now if the only step up option from 3060TI is 3080 12gb for $1299 while 10gb version is available right now for $869 without any step up? So it's $905.40 USD for me to step-up from 3060TI to 3080 12GB and ~$905 for 3080 10GB if I buy it directly from EVGA website. If we take return shipping into equation it would be even worse. Apparently EVGA step-up program values my 3060ti at 2gb of RAM. I would highly recommend EVGA to stop advertising step-up program as it became nothing but scam.
|
Cool GTX
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 30975
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/12/12 14:22:25
- Location: Folding for the Greater Good
- Status: online
- Ribbons : 122
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 10:21:27
(permalink)
EVGA Step-Up  rules seem very clear to me  the Step-Up promotion, is a nice option & one that no other Mfg offers. The prices are @ MSRP & not any promotional discount. like instant rebates & other type of special discounts. One of the newer changes that was added in the last update to the program - does limit the upgrade path to very specific SKUs only ... it has limited your options.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 12:36:32
(permalink)
kinet3k
the_Scarlet_one
You give very little context, which card are you talking about stepping up from? Where is EVGA offering $100 for something you paid $500 for?
No, the step up program isn’t ripping people off. It’s not meant for everyone, and if it doesn’t benefit you, don’t use it.
How exactly am I supposed to use the program now if the only step up option from 3060TI is 3080 12gb for $1299 while 10gb version is available right now for $869 without any step up?
So it's $905.40 USD for me to step-up from 3060TI to 3080 12GB and ~$905 for 3080 10GB if I buy it directly from EVGA website. If we take return shipping into equation it would be even worse. Apparently EVGA step-up program values my 3060ti at 2gb of RAM.
I would highly recommend EVGA to stop advertising step-up program as it became nothing but scam.
My honest suggest, don’t. The 3080 12gb has been openly available quite often over the last 90 days. Buying it outright would have been a much smarter option. In the future, don’t buy lower tier items as a method to get higher tier items. I fully understand that will come across as rude, and wrong, and not empathetic, but it is a fact that 99% of people with buyers remorse need to accept at this point. Sell your 3060ti on Facebook marketplace and buy a 3080 12gb or 3080ti outright. Don’t use the step up program.
|
kram36
The Destroyer
- Total Posts : 21477
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/10/27 19:00:58
- Location: United States
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 72
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 15:14:10
(permalink)
Step-Up became useless when EVGA started charging full tax on the Step-Up card purchase and not giving you the discount of the previously tax paid on the card being sent back in for Step-Up.
Matter of fact EVGA shouldn't even be charging a tax for my state on internet purchases, yet they started doing that too. I'm starting to wonder if EVGA isn't pocketing the collected tax.
If you can only Step-Up to a 3080 12GB, when the Step-Up page shows you can Step-Up to 3080 Ti / 3080 12GB / 3080 / 3070 Ti / 3070 from your 3060 Ti, then this is the second card on EVGA's Step-Up list that EVGA has listed incorrectly.
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 16:08:49
(permalink)
kram36
Step-Up became useless when EVGA started charging full tax on the Step-Up card purchase and not giving you the discount of the previously tax paid on the card being sent back in for Step-Up.
Matter of fact EVGA shouldn't even be charging a tax for my state on internet purchases, yet they started doing that too. I'm starting to wonder if EVGA isn't pocketing the collected tax.
If you can only Step-Up to a 3080 12GB, when the Step-Up page shows you can Step-Up to 3080 Ti / 3080 12GB / 3080 / 3070 Ti / 3070 from your 3060 Ti, then this is the second card on EVGA's Step-Up list that EVGA has listed incorrectly.
I purchased items online and had them shipped to South Carolina, and received a bill from the IRS because the taxes weren’t collected. Online purchases and the way taxes are applied have changed over the years, so they should be charging taxes since it would go to the state and EVGA wouldn’t legally be able to keep it. Every state is different.
|
kram36
The Destroyer
- Total Posts : 21477
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/10/27 19:00:58
- Location: United States
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 72
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 16:51:19
(permalink)
the_Scarlet_one
kram36
Step-Up became useless when EVGA started charging full tax on the Step-Up card purchase and not giving you the discount of the previously tax paid on the card being sent back in for Step-Up.
Matter of fact EVGA shouldn't even be charging a tax for my state on internet purchases, yet they started doing that too. I'm starting to wonder if EVGA isn't pocketing the collected tax.
If you can only Step-Up to a 3080 12GB, when the Step-Up page shows you can Step-Up to 3080 Ti / 3080 12GB / 3080 / 3070 Ti / 3070 from your 3060 Ti, then this is the second card on EVGA's Step-Up list that EVGA has listed incorrectly.
I purchased items online and had them shipped to South Carolina, and received a bill from the IRS because the taxes weren’t collected. Online purchases and the way taxes are applied have changed over the years, so they should be charging taxes since it would go to the state and EVGA wouldn’t legally be able to keep it.
Every state is different.
My state does not require tax to be collected at time of purchase on internet purchases, unless the company has a physical presence in my state. No online company charges me tax on purchases except at times Amazon will add a tax to some items and EVGA. Not even eBay does this unless the seller is located in my state or the seller specifies to collect tax, like EVGA's eBay store. As for taxes I owe to the IRS, that's between the IRS and me, not EVGA.
post edited by kram36 - 2022/05/14 16:53:55
|
bill1024
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 11083
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/10/18 01:01:10
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 65
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 17:14:01
(permalink)
I don’t understand what does the IRS have to do with sales tax? Aren’t sales taxes state and county?
Life is too short to carry a cheap pocket knife 
|
kram36
The Destroyer
- Total Posts : 21477
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/10/27 19:00:58
- Location: United States
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 72
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 17:18:54
(permalink)
bill1024
I don’t understand what does the IRS have to do with sales tax? Aren’t sales taxes state and county?
I think he meant his state, not the IRS. Yes sales tax is State, County and even City. At least where I live. My state did pass a law to start collecting online sales tax, but it doesn't go into effect until Jan1, 2023. EVGA is a bit ahead of the requirements. I'd still like to know the answer to this. https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3552572
post edited by kram36 - 2022/05/14 17:21:07
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 17:25:54
(permalink)
bill1024
I don’t understand what does the IRS have to do with sales tax? Aren’t sales taxes state and county?
It was state, as Kram stated above, and it was when I went to file my taxes at the end of the year that I got the notice that I had to pay.
|
bill1024
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 11083
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/10/18 01:01:10
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 65
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 17:35:49
(permalink)
Ok whew.
As far as the step up tax I have heard people say both full tax and some just the difference gets taxed. I don’t know why
My guess was direct buy but you did say you just paid full tax from them so ….
I do know I’m my state when I traid in a car I get the trade in value deducted from the sale price and pay on the difference
Could it depend on what state that you live in?
Life is too short to carry a cheap pocket knife
|
kram36
The Destroyer
- Total Posts : 21477
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/10/27 19:00:58
- Location: United States
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 72
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 17:43:55
(permalink)
bill1024
Ok whew.
As far as the step up tax I have heard people say both full tax and some just the difference gets taxed. I don’t know why
My guess was direct buy but you did say you just paid full tax from them so ….
I do know I’m my state when I traid in a car I get the trade in value deducted from the sale price and pay on the difference
Could it depend on what state that you live in?
In my state, you don't have to trade in your vehicle to get the tax reduction. Even if you sell to an individual, you get to deduct the sale cost on your next vehicle purchase within 90 days. I'm actually more curious about EVGA charging me more taxes on a Stick-Up than if I just bought the card.
post edited by kram36 - 2022/05/14 17:47:50
|
lastsamurairick
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2419
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/11 17:19:53
- Location: Orlando,FL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 6
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 17:53:11
(permalink)
Do what I did I saw step was not something I wanted because of price and Just said NO.
Intel 10900k @ 3.7 Stock EVGA Z490 Dark EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3070Ti FTW3 G SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL 32GB EVGA 1000G5
|
bill1024
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 11083
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/10/18 01:01:10
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 65
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 17:58:09
(permalink)
lastsamurairick
Do what I did I saw step was not something I wanted because of price and Just said NO.
Yup sometimes it’s just better to sell privately and buy a new one with all the discounts
Life is too short to carry a cheap pocket knife
|
kram36
The Destroyer
- Total Posts : 21477
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/10/27 19:00:58
- Location: United States
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 72
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/14 18:06:22
(permalink)
lastsamurairick
Do what I did I saw step was not something I wanted because of price and Just said NO.
Stick-Up can be useful if you ran out of the number of cards EVGA allows per household. Stick-Up doesn't care about the number per household. It's the taxes that is bad and why I now call it Stick-Up instead of Step-Up.
|
zenuke
New Member
- Total Posts : 2
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2019/01/25 08:09:47
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/16 10:59:37
(permalink)
I wish t hey would give more options. I would love to step up a 3060 to a 3070 or even a 3070ti but they only give you ONE option which is the most expensive 3070ti or 3080ti they sell that isn't a water cooled thing.
its crazy. Bring back more options for us to choose, you've got stock in everything now.
|
Santiti
New Member
- Total Posts : 1
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2021/11/18 15:14:00
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Step-up rip-off
2022/05/18 20:56:53
(permalink)
EVGA tried to sell me models more expensive than the one I requested, after rejecting it, the Step-up status says that queue was completed the past month and the next step it's "expired", while other parts still says "pending". EVGA also refused to cancel/refund the mandatory warranty upgrade for the Step-up program, I proposed that since they weren't able to fulfill what I've requested, they just ignored me Also, the GPUs they were offering me were even more expensive than the exact same model in a shop in my country, plus all the disadvantages you guys mentioned, like the price evaluation for the current one and the tax stuff(it also affects EU) EVGA at best are a shameful greedy bas**rds, at worst, scammers They collected all the money for mandatory extended warranties, refused to give the customers the models they requested via Step-Up at reasonable time-frame(while kept shipping to shops), tried to oversell to people like me models that were the same but with higher clocks at higher cost(the reasonable thing to do would have been to offer the OC model at the same price but nope, fck u customer, give us more money or ****), and now when no one wants to buy the GPUs because the market plummeted, they want people to still pay the same price that agreed to, many months ago zenuke
I wish t hey would give more options. I would love to step up a 3060 to a 3070 or even a 3070ti but they only give you ONE option which is the most expensive 3070ti or 3080ti they sell that isn't a water cooled thing.
its crazy. Bring back more options for us to choose, you've got stock in everything now.
Even if they give you the option, it doesn't mean they are going to deliver
post edited by Santiti - 2022/05/19 03:05:45
|