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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 10:13:39 (permalink)
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https://forums.evga.com/So-now-it-seems-a-20GB-version-of-3080-m3083476.aspx
 
There's already a thread about it ;) 


Yep and the 3080 FTW3 ultra 10gb is enough for me. No remorse at all, when I get it.




Yeah, I wouldn't pay more for just more VRAM. I'd wait until the 400x series when it MIGHT start being an issue, and by then new iteration + cheaper, or at least newer, VRAM. 700-800 is already a super sweet spot, no way I'm pay, what, 300 more for the privledge of slapping my case and telling people a higher number than I would have previously, lol. I'm sure a ton of people will have remorse though and get on the usual bigger/more is better train.
 
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Yeah, I cranked everything to the max to see how high the number got I think it was like 8800 or something been a bit since I did it. Of course, I couldn't save it over the limit was just curious.




Make sure VRAM being used and not VRAM being allocated, which would also creep higher as your actual VRAM is used. Some games reserve whatever it can get its hand on just in case, some only takes what it needs, etc.
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 10:16:42 (permalink)
I like how people go a little nanners over 20 vs 10 GB cards with the same GPU die. Why? I gamed at 4K with an 8GB 2080 Super without issue on the latest titles after coming from a 1080 Ti with 11GB. You'll run out of graphics horsepower long before you run out of VRAM on 99.99% of games. Also, the fact that people don't understand that just because a game loads gobs textures to memory doesn't mean that that is what is in active use - some games are coded to load up as much as they can to pre-allocate, which makes it seem like "ZOMG it's using 15GB on an 24GB card, no way an 8GB card will work!" That and VRAM memory compression improves from generation to generation, allowing more to fit on less VRAM.
 
TLDR, even at 4K you'll be fine with a 10GB 3080 for the next couple of years. And when more than 10GB is truly required, your GPU will need to have settings dialed back to maintain playable framerates anyways.

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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 10:18:23 (permalink)
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Can't wait to try and test cranking everything on red dead redemption 2, gets close to 9gb but can't test that with my current card.
But with the card now it runs great on high to ultra.




I had no idea it ran that much on 1440p.  If you would have said 4K, I would have believed you but sheesh, maybe the game isn't that optimized or big game titles are looking for more VRAM to unleash.  Surely not all games are consuming that much VRAM but just this specific title AFAIK.




 
It really depends on the game. None of the games I play ever go over 4-5 GB of GPU memory with my 2080 ti, so, I'm confident 10GB will be fine.
And really, if anything changes and it's not enough VRAM for me, I can sell it and get the 20GB version later.  I just sold my ASUS Strix 011G OC 2080 ti for $1050 on 10/7, and I paid $1299 for it when it first came out.
For now I'm using my old GTX 1070 until I can finally get my hands on a 3080.  I'm pretty sure the first round of 10GB 3080 will hold their value, I can't imagine the price Nvidia and the AIB partners will put on the 20GB cards.
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 10:27:51 (permalink)
Zero remorse with the 10GB 3080. Not just because I have it either. Its going to cost more and by the time I sold my 1080 Ti. It was $443 for me. Btw, this is nothing new for Nvidia. They do this stuff all the time. People cant just be happy with what they have. Always have to run the rat race trying to always stay ahead. I seen some knuckle head that got a 3090 and then scored a 3080. Only to sell the 3090 and keep the 3080. That was stupid. Anyone in their right mind would keep the 3090 if they actually had the funds to get it along having it in their possesion.

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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 10:32:58 (permalink)
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Can't wait to try and test cranking everything on red dead redemption 2, gets close to 9gb but can't test that with my current card.
But with the card now it runs great on high to ultra.




I had no idea it ran that much on 1440p.  If you would have said 4K, I would have believed you but sheesh, maybe the game isn't that optimized or big game titles are looking for more VRAM to unleash.  Surely not all games are consuming that much VRAM but must be this specific title.


 
Does not mean its actually consuming that amount of vram. Many people dismiss that.

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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 11:15:44 (permalink)
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Don't care.  Give me a 3080 Ti with a full GA102 chip, 12GB ram and a 520w power limit, and I'll give you $1000.




Here you go.  I'll ship it as soon as I see the money in my Paypal, k thanks.
 



how would it be the full GA102 not be 3090Ti , the 3090 is still cut down.


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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 11:19:34 (permalink)
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Don't care.  Give me a 3080 Ti with a full GA102 chip, 12GB ram and a 520w power limit, and I'll give you $1000.


if the 3090 doesnt even have a full chip, why would a 3080ti?
 
the only way you're getting a full GA102, is with a Titan. a true titan, not this "titan-level" 3090, with the price tag to go with it.
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 11:37:02 (permalink)
No one cares about more VRAM. It's very minimally beneficial at common resolutions and gaming. 
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 16:45:15 (permalink)
Come on folks! If the rumor is true, all of those that just took delivery of a 10g will be able to Step Up if EVGA puts them on the list! 
 
I mean, come on! Nvidia "Could have" released it in March (Like the have historically).
 
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 17:47:38 (permalink)
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/09 20:32:35 (permalink)
Since we are forced to wait, this IS a blessing!

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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/10 08:01:31 (permalink)
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No one cares about more VRAM. It's very minimally beneficial at common resolutions and gaming. 


flight simmers care we use VRAM like its candy id love to have 20GB for orthos and 8k textures. a single complex aircraft could have over 2GB of textures
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/10 08:56:25 (permalink)
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No one cares about more VRAM. It's very minimally beneficial at common resolutions and gaming. 


flight simmers care we use VRAM like its candy id love to have 20GB for orthos and 8k textures. a single complex aircraft could have over 2GB of textures


Yeah. Well I can tell you based on https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/microsoft-flight-simulator-(2020)-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,4.html that if you read before only looking the charts, it says this : " The extra framebuffer memory does not make the sim noticeably less stutter-free, neither went performance upwards. But it will cache as much as needed and as much as possible and surely that can only be a positive thing. " 
 
Therefore, what the graph shows is that more VRAM is allocated and reserved, without any improvement regarding stutters or FPS.
 
You don't just look at VRAM usage and call it a day, instead you look at the overall experience : stutters, FPS, smoothness. If nothing changes when the VRAM decreases, the VRAM wasn't maxed out.
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/10 14:28:12 (permalink)
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No one cares about more VRAM. It's very minimally beneficial at common resolutions and gaming. 


flight simmers care we use VRAM like its candy id love to have 20GB for orthos and 8k textures. a single complex aircraft could have over 2GB of textures


Yeah. Well I can tell you based on https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/microsoft-flight-simulator-(2020)-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,4.html that if you read before only looking the charts, it says this : " The extra framebuffer memory does not make the sim noticeably less stutter-free, neither went performance upwards. But it will cache as much as needed and as much as possible and surely that can only be a positive thing. " 
 
Therefore, what the graph shows is that more VRAM is allocated and reserved, without any improvement regarding stutters or FPS.
 
You don't just look at VRAM usage and call it a day, instead you look at the overall experience : stutters, FPS, smoothness. If nothing changes when the VRAM decreases, the VRAM wasn't maxed out.


and thats MSFS NOT X-Plane 11 with ortho on harddisk whole other animal XP11 is also on Vulkan and will use every drop of VRAM you throw at it


 
and there tests even with MSFS are... suspect becasue well they dont know how test flight sims correctly ... sure with stock aircraft you might not run of vram and MSFS uses pretty low res orthos unlike with Xplane where i can pull in HUGE orthos and massive amounts of custom scenery and complex aircraft that can use use up 10GB of VRAM even at 1080p and not even talking about 4k...
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/10 22:27:59 (permalink)
I would guess it will be 2021 before these come out. Nvidia has made such a big deal about limited availability this year and if I'm not mistaken limited availability of the GDDR6x memory module sizes had something to do with it as well. 
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/10 22:31:06 (permalink)
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I like how people go a little nanners over 20 vs 10 GB cards with the same GPU die. Why? I gamed at 4K with an 8GB 2080 Super without issue on the latest titles after coming from a 1080 Ti with 11GB. You'll run out of graphics horsepower long before you run out of VRAM on 99.99% of games. Also, the fact that people don't understand that just because a game loads gobs textures to memory doesn't mean that that is what is in active use - some games are coded to load up as much as they can to pre-allocate, which makes it seem like "ZOMG it's using 15GB on an 24GB card, no way an 8GB card will work!" That and VRAM memory compression improves from generation to generation, allowing more to fit on less VRAM.
 
TLDR, even at 4K you'll be fine with a 10GB 3080 for the next couple of years. And when more than 10GB is truly required, your GPU will need to have settings dialed back to maintain playable framerates anyways.


Uh huh
 
It's been this way for a decade.  I don't know why people keep falling for this marketing.
 
IF this 20 GB card is finally an exception to that rule, I will be surprised.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/11 01:41:43 (permalink)
Wont be worth it, i can see it being extra 300$ for 10gb more vram that we wont need for a while, put that extra money towards a gpu upgrade when you actually need it 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/11 10:34:41 (permalink)
I don’t how much gain a 3080 with 20vram will make.
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/11 10:35:42 (permalink)
Then why not get the 3090?
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/11 21:11:04 (permalink)
If EVGA wants some free market research from a sample of 1....If I can step up to a 20GB FTW3 for $100-150 I will get it. +$200 probably not, and if it is more than that definitely not.
 
Also I will not "step up" from a 10gb FTW3 to a 20gb XC3.
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/11 22:46:53 (permalink)
I still don't think there will be enough Supply even if a 20GB Version of the 3080 comes out. But some people that wanted the 3080 and could not get it then tried to get the 3090 and could not get it either might be going for a 3080 20GB next.
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Re: NVIDIA Reportedly Launching GeForce RTX 3080 (20 GB) and 3070 (16 GB) in December 2020/10/11 23:17:06 (permalink)
They are just going to paper launch the 20GB models in early 2021, watch. I have a feeling AMD is going to have supply issues at launch too(maybe not as bad but still). Things will level out sometime next year.
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Re: RTX 3080 20GB *Possible December Release* 2020/10/12 04:41:08 (permalink)
Yeah, sounds about right. IF true, it doesn't sound tooo bad!
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/12 04:46:23 (permalink)
I want Jason to come and clarify if the 20GB version is eligible to be stepped up to. 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/12 06:01:54 (permalink)
I doubt it will be possible to launch double memory cards this year. Micron has repeatedly said the 2GB GDDR6X chips will be ready in 2021, not this year.

And if they just use all 1GB chips, the price will make it a completely crap purchase.  They would essentially be cut down 3090s instead of 3080s.  It would be the stupidest GPU SKU ever.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/12 10:01:57 (permalink)
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I doubt it will be possible to launch double memory cards this year. Micron has repeatedly said the 2GB GDDR6X chips will be ready in 2021, not this year.

And if they just use all 1GB chips, the price will make it a completely crap purchase.  They would essentially be cut down 3090s instead of 3080s.  It would be the stupidest GPU SKU ever.


I agree with you, it looks too early for that. A more reasonable time will be as you said when micron releases 2GB GDDR6X chips
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/12 11:40:00 (permalink)
Hopefully tons of the backorders for the 10GB will get canceled for 20gb so the 10gb ones will be able to fill the backorders that remain faster.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/12 14:31:12 (permalink)
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 Uhm, I've been playing games in 4K since the 1060, but sure. lol Not at 120 FPS on newer games, but still. That's a pretty poor chart imo

If you're playing in 4k with your 1060 I feel bad for it. As a former 1060 owner I know how much work that is for it, especially if you aren't lowering settings to at least medium presets on anything newish. Destiny 2 was the only game I regularly played in 4k with mine and had to use medium at best to stay above 50fps. Anything newer than that just made it cry and threaten me with all kinds of nasty things




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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/10/12 15:49:41 (permalink)
More VRAM is essential to tasks like CG rendering, which is why the Titan was such a big deal when it first came out. Though a GTX Titan Black was only 6GB.
 
For most gaming use scenarios you won't need it. Flight Simulator doesn't even count as it is not, in fact, a game. That said, there are certainly use scenarios to which more VRAM will be useful. But for most getting the card at all will be a bigger deal than more VRAM.
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