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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 15:19:19 (permalink)
All I want to upgrade my card before November 19 lol I got 1080ti, I play 3440x1440p 120hz but 1080ti can't push enough to reach full potential. So I am over here waiting for 3080ti or 20gb version 3080. I would just buy 3080 and wait for setup up but everything sold out lol

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 19:43:53 (permalink)
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People dont know the difference between allocation and usage.   They see their VRAM get allocated and they think the game is using that much.   Unless your running a Simulator rig for racing or something you dont need that much Vram. 


I think it's less people can't tell the difference it's more in my case i don't like upgrading very often and if i'm gonna upgrade i'm gonna get the best deal i can get. Sure realistically 10gb-20gb on a gpu @4k won't be that necessary, but considering how long i plan on keeping this card and not upgrading it makes sense to me to get the best one i can get. At the very least it'll allow me to see what amd's got and if it's even worth looking at. Though i just hope i can get a new card before cyberpunk comes out. 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 19:48:30 (permalink)
20GB RTX 3080 Super variant with 9000 Cuda cores, price at $999 USD

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 19:51:18 (permalink)
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20GB RTX 3080 Super variant with 9000 Cuda cores, price at $999 USD




 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 20:02:05 (permalink)
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20GB RTX 3080 Super variant with 9000 Cuda cores, price at $999 USD



So if a 3090 is 10496 @ 24gb oh right the bit rate is higher 384? 
Yeah i don't see the justification to pay $500 extra a 1/3rd of the price of a super for this. I guess overclocking but still. 



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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 20:27:05 (permalink)
I'm just wondering how much the 20gb version will help with RTX I/O when that starts to get implemented more often.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 22:43:04 (permalink)
I'm just curious about how it would work.. If they did like the 3090 they'd have to put the chips on the back. Their PCB doesn't have empty RAM pads on the back, so that means they would have to make new PCBs  and heat sinks for the 20GB variant.
 
What's more likely is they'll have to use 2GB GDDR6X chips to double the memory, which aren't even going to be out until next year, no ETA as to when next year either.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/20 07:16:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Afterburner 2020/09/20 07:17:02
skus dont mean much there where skus for a 6GB 780ti that in the end never happened
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/20 07:23:02 (permalink)
Would have been great if they had empty VRAM slots to expand existing VRAM when the future demands 

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/20 07:40:48 (permalink)
I hoped to get a 3080 but the bots stole them all. Like said makes waiting for a 20gb ver easy. Or the 3090. I will have to make due with my titan xp for awhile longer! Lol
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/20 08:00:15 (permalink)
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skus dont mean much there where skus for a 6GB 780ti that in the end never happened




But a 6Gb Titan did, and a 6GB 780.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/20 08:10:44 (permalink)
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elios
skus dont mean much there where skus for a 6GB 780ti that in the end never happened




But a 6Gb Titan did, and a 6GB 780.


yet the card that really needed it didnt get it so yea not going to play that game again
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/20 08:33:46 (permalink)
I expect a 20GB variant to cost $150 - $200 more than the 10GB 3080 variant 

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/20 19:20:31 (permalink)
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It was said during The Gamer Nexus 3080 live benchmarking session that the 10 GB isn’t even going to be utilized to the fullest potential not even within the next 2 to 3 years. It’s good to see the new cards, as it makes people mouths water, THINKING they need more

 The 20GB is for professionals and compute tasks like video editing, encoding, rendering, etc.
For gaming they have to design for the lowest common denominator, which is consoles.
Meaning that in way consoles hold back PC Gaming now.
You can't even use the full 8GB VRAM on a 2070 Super(actually used, not just allocated)

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/21 07:29:35 (permalink)
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To the masses, yeah. Over 10GB not needed at this point.
However, I want all I can get. I still run multiple monitors @ 1440 and plan on getting an 8k next year (Skipping 4k if I get the chance).
Even if all it becomes is the warm and fuzzy with no real benefit, I am OK with that.

 
I agree with that 100%... if you're talking about Gaming.  If you're doing anything else CAD, Rendering, AI... 20gb is a big benefit.  
Historically people that did that kind of work were forced to grab Quadro and Tesla cards... the Titan came onto the scene and offered a slightly cheaper option, but it was still stupid expensive.  It's not a huge demand, but there is a demand for high memory cards mid range cards.  But not they're 100% not for gaming.  But Nvidia knows this market segment is small, so they don't bother to target it.  I always wished they released a card with slower clocks but more ram, without the Quadro price tag.  With AI modeling I wouldn't mind a training model taking 8 days instead of 6... if I could fit larger models on a card.
 
I have a friend that does 3d rendering, and he's always running into the memory limit on his 2080ti's.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/21 07:31:10 (permalink)
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20GB RTX 3080 Super variant with 9000 Cuda cores, price at $999 USD




correction... 9001 Cuda Cores just so they can get the meme army going. :P 

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/21 07:33:53 (permalink)
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To the masses, yeah. Over 10GB not needed at this point.
However, I want all I can get. I still run multiple monitors @ 1440 and plan on getting an 8k next year (Skipping 4k if I get the chance).
Even if all it becomes is the warm and fuzzy with no real benefit, I am OK with that.

 
I agree with that 100%... if you're talking about Gaming.  If you're doing anything else CAD, Rendering, AI... 20gb is a big benefit.  
Historically people that did that kind of work were forced to grab Quadro and Tesla cards... the Titan came onto the scene and offered a slightly cheaper option, but it was still stupid expensive.  It's not a huge demand, but there is a demand for high memory cards mid range cards.  But not they're 100% not for gaming.  But Nvidia knows this market segment is small, so they don't bother to target it.  I always wished they released a card with slower clocks but more ram, without the Quadro price tag.  With AI modeling I wouldn't mind a training model taking 8 days instead of 6... if I could fit larger models on a card.
 
I have a friend that does 3d rendering, and he's always running into the memory limit on his 2080ti's.


 I am talking about gaming because that is the "Masses" here. There are many reasons for all versions. It is why they build them!
 
That said, you look at all the posts for the last 14+ years, the percentage of "Rendering/CAD/AI" combined is less than 10% of the posts...

 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/21 09:00:34 (permalink)
If you want to be on the “cutting edge” prepare to bleed.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/21 09:08:00 (permalink)
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To the masses, yeah. Over 10GB not needed at this point.
However, I want all I can get. I still run multiple monitors @ 1440 and plan on getting an 8k next year (Skipping 4k if I get the chance).
Even if all it becomes is the warm and fuzzy with no real benefit, I am OK with that.

I agree with that 100%... if you're talking about Gaming.  If you're doing anything else CAD, Rendering, AI... 20gb is a big benefit.  
Historically people that did that kind of work were forced to grab Quadro and Tesla cards... the Titan came onto the scene and offered a slightly cheaper option, but it was still stupid expensive.  It's not a huge demand, but there is a demand for high memory cards mid range cards.  But not they're 100% not for gaming.  But Nvidia knows this market segment is small, so they don't bother to target it.  I always wished they released a card with slower clocks but more ram, without the Quadro price tag.  With AI modeling I wouldn't mind a training model taking 8 days instead of 6... if I could fit larger models on a card.
I have a friend that does 3d rendering, and he's always running into the memory limit on his 2080ti's.

That said, you look at all the posts for the last 14+ years, the percentage of "Rendering/CAD/AI" combined is less than 10% of the posts...



Yea, I know... I'm always a statistical outlier. lol

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/22 10:19:08 (permalink)
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Yall arguing about the prospective mid-tier upgrades. I'm just sitting here waiting to do my only gpu purchase over the next 4+ years. 980ti - > 3090. I might finally be able to use to the fullest my 144hz 1440p I got 3 years ago haha.


Righttt! People with 2080Ti's arguing they didn't get their RTX3080.
Other people just waiting for the AMD answer GPU RTX 3080 20GB.
And then you have those people with 3 - 4 - 5 generations old cards hoping to upgrade soon.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/22 10:55:39 (permalink)
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Would have been great if they had empty VRAM slots to expand existing VRAM when the future demands 


The 3080 does have 2 unused vram slots. So they could, technically, come out with an 11 or 12GB variant if nvidia ever releases a die that supports it... Although technically the 12GB variant would just be a 3090 with half the vram.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/23 13:26:37 (permalink)
It would be cool if the end user can upgrade the VRAM on their own  
 
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Would have been great if they had empty VRAM slots to expand existing VRAM when the future demands 


The 3080 does have 2 unused vram slots. So they could, technically, come out with an 11 or 12GB variant if nvidia ever releases a die that supports it... Although technically the 12GB variant would just be a 3090 with half the vram.





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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/23 21:34:33 (permalink)
Galax slides confirmed 3060 as well
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/24 04:11:52 (permalink)
Gigabyte listed them as super so dont think they are coming till next year 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/24 04:16:52 (permalink)
Will the 10gb be that bad for 4k? I feel like this capacity hasnt been a problem, but all of a sudden people are losing their minds that 10gb is to small.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/24 04:21:33 (permalink)
Why does the VRAM need to be soldered?  Can't it be installed by the end user?  Or is that not feasible due to how all the components are squeezed together on the PCB?  

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/24 05:31:50 (permalink)
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Why does the VRAM need to be soldered?  Can't it be installed by the end user?  Or is that not feasible due to how all the components are squeezed together on the PCB?  


In theory its possible, but with an integrated heatsink the ideal location would be on the back of the pcb, even then they would likely need a new memory module size and take a lot of engineering in the industry. I just dont see it happening in the current PCIe design.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/24 05:40:33 (permalink)
Price is a concern here.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/24 05:46:12 (permalink)
Since it seems the naming scheme is "3080 10GB and 3080 20GB" and not "3080 and 3080ti/super", I don't think there'll be any more difference in performance between the two 3080 cards other than the memory size.
The CUDA, RT and Tensor cores should be of the same amount in both. Thinking of it logically too, there's no much room in performance between the current 3080 and the 3090.
 
Therefore I believe they'll release just a variant of the same 3080 with more memory for better future-proof usage... the cost of the memory modules alone is expensive I hear though, no way they'd release it at the same price as the current 3080. It'll be at least 150$ higher I believe... which again would probably be the best value out of the top 3 options.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/24 06:16:46 (permalink)
Most likely to release after AMD releases their card to see how that card does.. Then release the 20 Gig card
 
Price prolly up to $150 additional maybe?
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