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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 01:09:57 (permalink)
this all makes me wonder what will happen with the 4000 gen in 24 months
the reviews have been nice for this 3000 gen.
 
but these super stunts really bother me.  its up to AMD i guess....

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 01:26:05 (permalink)
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YEAH after the "super" stunt in 2000 gen this was expected.
nVidia at its finest.
 
deep down we all knew this was going to happen with a gap so wide between the 10GB version on the 3080 and the 24GB on the 3090. it was obvious!
 
 



The 3090 is 24 GB???!!!!??!

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 01:31:14 (permalink)
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YEAH after the "super" stunt in 2000 gen this was expected.
nVidia at its finest.
 
deep down we all knew this was going to happen with a gap so wide between the 10GB version on the 3080 and the 24GB on the 3090. it was obvious!
 
 



The 3090 is 24 GB???!!!!??!

I think.. I think I ... I think I'm going to change what I buy. I'm sorry, wallet..




 
I mean, it's your money, but I'm curious about why the fact that it's 24 GB is what's selling you over to double your previous budget. I could understand simply saying "screw it" because 3080 is out of stock, but doing it specifically for the VRAM is odd.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 01:39:52 (permalink)
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YEAH after the "super" stunt in 2000 gen this was expected.
nVidia at its finest.
 
deep down we all knew this was going to happen with a gap so wide between the 10GB version on the 3080 and the 24GB on the 3090. it was obvious!
 
 



The 3090 is 24 GB???!!!!??!

I think.. I think I ... I think I'm going to change what I buy. I'm sorry, wallet..




 
I mean, it's your money, but I'm curious about why the fact that it's 24 GB is what's selling you over to double your previous budget. I could understand simply saying "screw it" because 3080 is out of stock, but doing it specifically for the VRAM is odd.



Well, I was thinking future proofing a little bit in 4K. It's also greater GPU performance in general, isn't it? The 3080 out of stock is also a variable here, haha.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 01:43:21 (permalink)
Perhaps history is repeating itself.
 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 01:43:29 (permalink)
As Lenovo also has already confirmed the 3070ti with 16gb 17 days ago, i think that we can maybe expect some ti models till end of this year if AMD is getting dangerous hopefully.
 
www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-confirms-rtx-3070ti-with-16gb-gddr6
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 03:01:32 (permalink)
I don't think anyone needs to worry about 10GB being enough. The way things work is simply developers know that Ultra settings in games are basically what takes a good CPU and the flagship NVIDIA card to run. Right now the 3080 10GB is that flagship that if a game isn't running well with that gamers are going to complain who own a 2080, 2080Ti and a 3080 10GB. Also with games being mostly ports from consoles it would seem unlikely many are going to really make a whole game texture pack for at least a few years that will go above 10GB.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 04:33:38 (permalink)
I think so too but i for example want to buy a 3070 and prefer to wait for the 16GB Ti version instead of buying a 8GB version at the 15th of October because that might not be enough for long. It would also significantly reduce the resale value.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 06:20:48 (permalink)
I fell for the hype of more Vram back in the day. The gpu horsepower runs out before the amount of vram. It seems a bunch of fancy smart tech reviewers already have said it probably won't make a difference even at 4k
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 06:43:44 (permalink)
I'll bet even if the 20GB version makes no difference at 4k, It will cause resale values of the 30xx series to vary.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 07:48:28 (permalink)
Considering 66% of people are still only running 1080p, 7% run 1440p, and 2% have a 4K display, 10GB is plenty for the average user for the next two generations. Though high end, the 3080 is still a mainstream card.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:01:10 (permalink)
Yall arguing about the prospective mid-tier upgrades. I'm just sitting here waiting to do my only gpu purchase over the next 4+ years. 980ti - > 3090. I might finally be able to use to the fullest my 144hz 1440p I got 3 years ago haha.



 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:02:01 (permalink)
To the masses, yeah. Over 10GB not needed at this point.
 
However, I want all I can get. I still run multiple monitors @ 1440 and plan on getting an 8k next year (Skipping 4k if I get the chance).
 
Even if all it becomes is the warm and fuzzy with no real benefit, I am OK with that.
 
 

 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:09:29 (permalink)
Anyone check out that wccftech article? 
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Assuming the 2080 ti's replacement is the 3090 . Allegedly if this is true then the 20gb version should come out in october? But according to this article the 2070 super should've been out by now? It doesn't release till next month? Which makes me debate whether or not i should try and get an ftw3 now or wait it out in october for an alleged 20 gb version which is a weird thing for nvidia to do immediately cannibalize their first product in favor of a better one not even half a month later. Other then being anti consumer unless it was their plan to screw over scalpers? Anyone know if that "upgrade" program would apply to anyone who bought an early model 3080? 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:17:04 (permalink)
Debating on "Leaked" information is fun. But really should not be part of your buying decision because you may never be able to make a decision (As the info just keeps coming). 
 
Keeping an eye on all of the info leaked is a great idea. Best guess is never as good as official information offered by Nvidia. As none of the partners will announce something (On purpose) before Nvidia does. 

 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:19:54 (permalink)
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Debating on "Leaked" information is fun. But really should not be part of your buying decision because you may never be able to make a decision (As the info just keeps coming). 
 
Keeping an eye on all of the info leaked is a great idea. Best guess is never as good as official information offered by Nvidia. As none of the partners will announce something (On purpose) before Nvidia does. 


 Well according to this tweet by jacob more info coming mid october around 308xx variants along with kingpin/hybrid versions. Which makes me think theirs some validity to these "leaks". 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:22:38 (permalink)
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Debating on "Leaked" information is fun. But really should not be part of your buying decision because you may never be able to make a decision (As the info just keeps coming). 
 
Keeping an eye on all of the info leaked is a great idea. Best guess is never as good as official information offered by Nvidia. As none of the partners will announce something (On purpose) before Nvidia does. 


Well according to this tweet by jacob more info coming mid october around 308xx variants along with kingpin/hybrid versions. Which makes me think theirs some validity to these "leaks". 


How does that invalidate my comment? We are all looking forward to October. It is like, right there!! Two weeks away... And I hope this time it is not Oct 30th as I will be exhausted with anticipation by then 

 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:31:57 (permalink)
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Debating on "Leaked" information is fun. But really should not be part of your buying decision because you may never be able to make a decision (As the info just keeps coming). 
 
Keeping an eye on all of the info leaked is a great idea. Best guess is never as good as official information offered by Nvidia. As none of the partners will announce something (On purpose) before Nvidia does. 


Well according to this tweet by jacob more info coming mid october around 308xx variants along with kingpin/hybrid versions. Which makes me think theirs some validity to these "leaks". 


How does that invalidate my comment? We are all looking forward to October. It is like, right there!! Two weeks away... And I hope this time it is not Oct 30th as I will be exhausted with anticipation by then 


True, true. It's just things don't add up to me. 

Let's assume you're right and these leaks are wrong. That means their is a scarcity in the cards and me and a lot of ppl will be sol until next year, or give into scalpers. I hope i'm right i think i'm gonna hold on to buying anything till october. 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:34:15 (permalink)
To be clear, I am not saying the leaks are wrong! I am saying we do not know if they are right either. 

 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 08:39:47 (permalink)
Oh i get it . Welp october here i come. 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 11:44:31 (permalink)
How would this compare with the upcoming new console releases in November?  

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 11:49:30 (permalink)
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How would this compare with the upcoming new console releases in November?  


How would a unreleased product compare to  unreleased products? I have no idea.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 11:56:41 (permalink)
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How would this compare with the upcoming new console releases in November?  


How would a unreleased product compare to  unreleased products? I have no idea.



Yeah, his question makes absolutely no sense and is really open ended. lmao

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 11:57:48 (permalink)
10 GB VRAM should be more than enough... But I thank everyone for deciding to wait for the 20 GB model, should make the next round of stock a bit easier to obtain. lol

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 11:59:50 (permalink)
People dont know the difference between allocation and usage.   They see their VRAM get allocated and they think the game is using that much.   Unless your running a Simulator rig for racing or something you dont need that much Vram. 
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 12:00:48 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone needs to worry about 10GB being enough. The way things work is simply developers know that Ultra settings in games are basically what takes a good CPU and the flagship NVIDIA card to run. Right now the 3080 10GB is that flagship that if a game isn't running well with that gamers are going to complain who own a 2080, 2080Ti and a 3080 10GB. Also with games being mostly ports from consoles it would seem unlikely many are going to really make a whole game texture pack for at least a few years that will go above 10GB.





That isn't how it works. While some games dynamically allocate VRAM others don't. On several titles, I already exceed 10GB as a matter of course while running 80% scaling at 4K. Are you aware that games are DEVELOPED ON A PC, then ported to consoles?  You have it backwards. I'm sorry but I cannot agree with most of what you posted here, it is just inaccurate.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 12:04:50 (permalink)
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People dont know the difference between allocation and usage.   They see their VRAM get allocated and they think the game is using that much.   Unless your running a Simulator rig for racing or something you dont need that much Vram. 




Sure we do. When I see several title already allocating OVER 10GB of VRAM, on a daily basis. Once again, your 'need' claim is purely subjective whereas my objective observations of what is actually occurring with 4K gaming are not.  As an expert, perhaps you could take a few minutes and elaborate on the difference? Or explain why you believe not being able to load game assets in VRAM is a good thing for performance.

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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 12:49:48 (permalink)
The new console specs are available online.  Is it still early to comment?  It seems like everything is speculative at the moment because we all are listening to the reviews but are not reviewing these products ourselves.  I wonder how much extra a 20GB G6X variant will cost on top of the $809.99 price point 
 
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How would this compare with the upcoming new console releases in November?  


How would a unreleased product compare to  unreleased products? I have no idea.


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How would this compare with the upcoming new console releases in November?  


How would a unreleased product compare to  unreleased products? I have no idea.



Yeah, his question makes absolutely no sense and is really open ended. lmao






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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 13:16:36 (permalink)
I can't believe so few people have 1440p according to the steam info.
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Re: So now it seems a 20GB version of 3080 2020/09/19 15:03:01 (permalink)
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I can't believe so few people have 1440p according to the steam info.

It's not that crazy. I tell people all the time that I game in 2k and they are like "Really? What's your frame rate? Can you even play at that resolution with that card?"
 
Keep in mind these people have better GPU's than I do. It's just insanity to me how little people know about CPU vs GPU bottlenecking.

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