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Seems like every other month there has been a shortage of some critical component that stalls the manufacturing process of these cards. Since the KL release of sku 3897, that queue seems to be chugging along. So I was wondering is that a good sign the supply chain is healing and a regular flow of cards will be coming in? Or is this just another big couple batches or something?
Anyone have any insights on this?
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/11 21:50:48 (permalink)
    Can you buy a card at will?
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/11 23:46:36 (permalink)
    Hopefully the supply chain gets rolling well soon. My old gtx 970 is starting to show its age in newer games...
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/11 23:53:09 (permalink)
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    Can you buy a card at will?


    I didn't say "caught up"
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 00:06:01 (permalink)
    Looks like I can buy an XFX 6700 XT at will.
     
    I mean it'll run me $900, but the same thing is available from several outlets for the same price.
     
    Feels close. 
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 07:09:53 (permalink)
    Seems to come in waves @ retail and most place seem to be using the Newegg method of bundling of items with Gpu's  @ least when I got mine came with the keyboard and mouse combo all EVGA so was a plus I guess.


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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 07:22:26 (permalink)
    Lerpzu
    Hopefully the supply chain gets rolling well soon. My old gtx 970 is starting to show its age in newer games...


    I feel your pain, I also run a 970 and am waiting for an upgrade oportunity.
     
    Now, regarding the supply chain, the question is: will it keep with the requests of miners, which are known to buy an obscene amount of GPUS sometimes?
     
    Ethereum had a recent upward trend, and we might go back to the "middle ages" again.
     
     
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 07:58:45 (permalink)
    If it is, resurging COVID due to delta variant will probably depress it again.


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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 09:05:20 (permalink)
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    Lerpzu
    Hopefully the supply chain gets rolling well soon. My old gtx 970 is starting to show its age in newer games...


    I feel your pain, I also run a 970 and am waiting for an upgrade oportunity.
     
    Now, regarding the supply chain, the question is: will it keep with the requests of miners, which are known to buy an obscene amount of GPUS sometimes?
     
    Ethereum had a recent upward trend, and we might go back to the "middle ages" again.
     
     


    Got an email  canceling an order for a EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3897-KR. When i called to discuss it about changing it to a KL model they told me that the the manufacturer had discontinued the 3060 and up cards. Said he had been sending emails all day cancelling orders and refunding money. One of his regular customers was getting $300,000 US back....
    Said if he could get the cards he wouldn't be cancelling that order..
    I am thinking the customer wouldn't have been interested in the KL model...IMHO!


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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 09:11:00 (permalink)
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    Lerpzu
    Hopefully the supply chain gets rolling well soon. My old gtx 970 is starting to show its age in newer games...


    I feel your pain, I also run a 970 and am waiting for an upgrade oportunity.
     
    Now, regarding the supply chain, the question is: will it keep with the requests of miners, which are known to buy an obscene amount of GPUS sometimes?
     
    Ethereum had a recent upward trend, and we might go back to the "middle ages" again.
     
     


    Got an email  canceling an order for a EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3897-KR. When i called to discuss it about changing it to a KL model they told me that the the manufacturer had discontinued the 3060 and up cards. Said he had been sending emails all day cancelling orders and refunding money. One of his regular customers was getting $300,000 US back....
    Said if he could get the cards he wouldn't be cancelling that order..
    I am thinking the customer wouldn't have been interested in the KL model...IMHO!

    Who’s “they?” Can’t be EVGA for a $300K order unless they’re lying about their one GPU per household rule.

     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 09:12:04 (permalink)
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    I called the Canadian site and pushed 5 for to speak tech on a pre purchase and ended up being redirected to US site because the Canadian site had closed for the day..
    We talked about stuff and the subject came up easily

    Update...I just re listened to the conversation and "the customer wired the money and they can't get 3090's for him...150 boards for $349,000 is being refunded"..
    post edited by SmookinJoe - 2021/08/12 09:28:40


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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 10:20:57 (permalink)
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    I called the Canadian site and pushed 5 for to speak tech on a pre purchase and ended up being redirected to US site because the Canadian site had closed for the day..
    We talked about stuff and the subject came up easily

    Update...I just re listened to the conversation and "the customer wired the money and they can't get 3090's for him...150 boards for $349,000 is being refunded"..

    At least it’s being refunded. On a related note, I really wish new mining tech would be invented. 150 3090s = mining farm.
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/12 10:25:42 (permalink)
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    snip~.150 boards for $349,000 is being refunded"..

    At least it’s being refunded. On a related not, I really wish new mining tech would be invented. 150 3090s = mining farm.

    My thoughts exactly!


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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/14 07:25:38 (permalink)
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    Seems like every other month there has been a shortage of some critical component that stalls the manufacturing process of these cards. Since the KL release of sku 3897, that queue seems to be chugging along. So I was wondering is that a good sign the supply chain is healing and a regular flow of cards will be coming in? Or is this just another big couple batches or something?
    Anyone have any insights on this?



    The supply chain isn't "Fixed" and there will be various component shortages into 2022 according to several graphics card manufacturers.
     
    The sign that its "fixed" is when you can buy any RTX 3000 series or RX 6000 graphics card at MSRP without any extended periods of cards being out of stock.

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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/14 08:51:43 (permalink)
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    Seems like every other month there has been a shortage of some critical component that stalls the manufacturing process of these cards. Since the KL release of sku 3897, that queue seems to be chugging along. So I was wondering is that a good sign the supply chain is healing and a regular flow of cards will be coming in? Or is this just another big couple batches or something?
    Anyone have any insights on this?



    The supply chain isn't "Fixed" and there will be various component shortages into 2022 according to several graphics card manufacturers.
     
    The sign that its "fixed" is when you can buy any RTX 3000 series or RX 6000 graphics card at MSRP without any extended periods of cards being out of stock.

    I sincerely hope that GPU manufacturers strongly consider holding off on the next series release until the supply catches up with demand. At this point, I’m even wondering if I’ll be able to upgrade my motherboard, CPU, and RAM within the next year or two given that some models are becoming harder to come by.

     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/14 10:36:49 (permalink)
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    ~~snip~~
    I sincerely hope that GPU manufacturers strongly consider holding off on the next series release until the supply catches up with demand. At this point, I’m even wondering if I’ll be able to upgrade my motherboard, CPU, and RAM within the next year or two given that some models are becoming harder to come by.

    After I read this I did a search for complete computers with 3080's installed..seems like the cards are available to computer manufacturers...
    Might want to consider a complete replacement as a possibility or have a local store give you a discount on their computer using some of your parts..


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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/14 12:45:07 (permalink)
    Hopefully with China's crackdown on crooks hiding their assets on crypto we'll see a fall in crypto mining, and thus a reduce on demand on these already scarce cards from cryptominers. 
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/14 12:56:32 (permalink)
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    Hopefully with China's crackdown on crooks hiding their assets on crypto we'll see a fall in crypto mining, and thus a reduce on demand on these already scarce cards from cryptominers. 

    Yeah, no. Chinese miners have been packing up shop and setting up elsewhere. Same concept as what America did by outsourcing jobs to other countries to escape taxes.

     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/14 23:25:16 (permalink)
    Ya know when the waves get to high sometimes you gotta jump ship.
     
     

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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/08/16 10:09:49 (permalink)
    Time to mine chia? lol
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 15:25:51 (permalink)
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    Hopefully with China's crackdown on crooks hiding their assets on crypto we'll see a fall in crypto mining, and thus a reduce on demand on these already scarce cards from cryptominers. 




    I don't know if that will resolve the high prices issue, I mean china did the crypto crackdown atleast 2 months ago, but I still don't see any change in the prices for the cards. If not more they are still the same expensive from a third party sellers haha.
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 15:42:05 (permalink)
    Computer gaming is vastly becoming a rich mans game.

     

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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 16:28:56 (permalink)
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    Computer gaming is vastly becoming a rich mans game.


    Indeed true! Agree 1000% 
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 17:15:55 (permalink)
    I have a feeling it will be 2nd quarter 22 before we see anything getting normalized 


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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 19:14:06 (permalink)
    Unless you're Apple with the deepest pockets and the sweetest deals, there's still a massive shortage, globally. 
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 19:24:09 (permalink)
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    Hopefully with China's crackdown on crooks hiding their assets on crypto we'll see a fall in crypto mining, and thus a reduce on demand on these already scarce cards from cryptominers. 

    I don't know if that will resolve the high prices issue, I mean china did the crypto crackdown atleast 2 months ago, but I still don't see any change in the prices for the cards. If not more they are still the same expensive from a third party sellers haha.

    All that did was give miners a boost for 6 weeks when the hash rate of the network dropped when they all went offline.  They are 85% back online now just in new locations.  If you are willing to do a bit of work and have patience, you can find someone whose been sitting on a card trying to profit for several weeks and beat them down.  I even bought an Alienware computer for $2400 just to take the 3090 out of it. (My nephew needed a computer anyway so it worked out for me)  I also have an EVGA 3090ftw3 ultra I got for $2200 (which isn't much over retail after tax) and another EVGA 3090ftw3 ultra hybrid I bought for $2250.  It's all about finding those people who listed them for sale 4 or 5 weeks ago.  They become motivated when they notice that prices have indeed fallen with the release of the LHR cards.  The last 5 times I have been to Microcenter they have had 3080ti's on the shelf.  And the AMD stuff is literally full on the shelf in there.  6700, 6800, 6900 and all the crazy differences.  I'm not an AMD guy so I know little to nothing about them
     

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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 20:54:12 (permalink)
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    All that did was give miners a boost for 6 weeks when the hash rate of the network dropped when they all went offline.  They are 85% back online now just in new locations.  If you are willing to do a bit of work and have patience, you can find someone whose been sitting on a card trying to profit for several weeks and beat them down.  I even bought an Alienware computer for $2400 just to take the 3090 out of it. (My nephew needed a computer anyway so it worked out for me)  I also have an EVGA 3090ftw3 ultra I got for $2200 (which isn't much over retail after tax) and another EVGA 3090ftw3 ultra hybrid I bought for $2250.  It's all about finding those people who listed them for sale 4 or 5 weeks ago.  They become motivated when they notice that prices have indeed fallen with the release of the LHR cards.  The last 5 times I have been to Microcenter they have had 3080ti's on the shelf.  And the AMD stuff is literally full on the shelf in there.  6700, 6800, 6900 and all the crazy differences.  I'm not an AMD guy so I know little to nothing about them
     


    My view on this is, I am ready to pay like 10percent extra for the cards but most of the cards I see from a third party seller are like crazy overpriced, prob 2x or 2.5x the retail price. I'd rather just wait than spend entire budget of my gaming PC on just one component. Doesn't make sense haha. But I guess you timed it correctly and bought the cards when people were selling them for relatively cheaper price. I wished I'd thought of that. Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out in case such opportunity arises in future.
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 22:16:02 (permalink)
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    ...
     
    Update...I just re listened to the conversation and "the customer wired the money and they can't get 3090's for him...150 boards for $349,000 is being refunded"..


    I honestly can't fault anybody buying an extra GPU or three to mine on, but people buying entire pallets should be kneecapped. I wish they'd kept his money.
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/14 22:23:49 (permalink)
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    ...
     
    Update...I just re listened to the conversation and "the customer wired the money and they can't get 3090's for him...150 boards for $349,000 is being refunded"..


    I honestly can't fault anybody buying an extra GPU or three to mine on, but people buying entire pallets should be kneecapped. I wish they'd kept his money.


    Man that's a lot of GPU's TBH. That dude could have been literally secret Santa for 150 people wanting 3090's. But again it's the core debate on whether sites should allow such bulk orders from a single account. Well as long as the vendors get their money, I don't think they really care at all who gets the cards.... Which sucks for users who legit only wants 1-2 cards for gaming and stuff
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    Re: So is the supply chain fixed for 30 series manufacturing? 2021/09/15 07:27:35 (permalink)
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    ...
     
    Update...I just re listened to the conversation and "the customer wired the money and they can't get 3090's for him...150 boards for $349,000 is being refunded"..


    I honestly can't fault anybody buying an extra GPU or three to mine on, but people buying entire pallets should be kneecapped. I wish they'd kept his money.


    Man that's a lot of GPU's TBH. That dude could have been literally secret Santa for 150 people wanting 3090's. But again it's the core debate on whether sites should allow such bulk orders from a single account. Well as long as the vendors get their money, I don't think they really care at all who gets the cards.... Which sucks for users who legit only wants 1-2 cards for gaming and stuff


    Yeah, I completely get it from a business perspective. I wish they wouldn't but I don't expect it to stop without some restrictions set by nVidia/partners, and I absolutely don't expect that to happen either. eVGA is the only company I could see maybe implementing those restrictions, but even then enforcement would be difficult.
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