pututu
Seems like recently EVGA has bumped up their msrp prices.... I guess the usual supply and demand thing. Expect to pay a bit more in this queue.

stang99x
 
You gotta have pretty deep pockets to buy a pallet of 3090's.  Granted knowing what you know now it would be a literal license to print money almost, but still.  150 cards at $1800 is $270k bucks.  I don't know many gamers, hell hardly even anyone with that kinda coin lyin around to invest in something that wasn't in short supply yet and had no guarantee.  One sudden bump in production and the bottom falls out then suddenly you're left holding the bag and that would suck.

stang99x
 
Well, my intended meaning would be that if everything went back to normal operations then you'd have no reason to buy from someone who had a pallet and gave you no receipt.  Based on the number of threads with people moaning about RMA'ing their cards it would seem the new line has their fair share of issues and I'd rather have a receipt from a major retailer than a note from a second hand seller.  For instance, when I bought mine I got the retail receipt with them.  That was non negotiable in the deal. The last thing I want to is spend a couple G's on a card only to lose it to a covered failure and not be able to provide the required proof of purchase.

stang99x
And I was right there with you, for the last 6-8 months as I waited for this to end.  But like so many other things (cars, batteries, chicken, etc) the shortages created by this poorly executed response to a virus by basically the whole world are not likely to end anytime soon.  I finally just told myself that if I did the math, the money I've lost by not mining for the last 6 months waiting on stock to return is not recoverable, whereas the excess money I'll pay for the cards is recoverable.  (Kinda like choosing to take Social Security at 64 or wait till 68....if it's even there when my generation retires)And the best mining stats all happened when China kicked out all the commercial mining operations and caused the network hash rate to drop by 20%+.  I was able to mine $300 a week running two 3090's and two gtx1080ti's.  Now that the Chinese that were offline have relocated and come back online, that same $300 takes 15 days to mine running three 3090's.  (The gtx1080ti's are offline as I put together a system specifically to mine with.  Only so much room in a case for PCiE stuff)

stang99x
Your pretty much spot on with the bots and scalpers.  But let me give you another angle of thought.  I own a golf cart company.  We sell, service, customize etc etc.  We had 34 carts for sale in March of 2020.  By May of 2020 we had nothing left for sale and were struggling to locate reasonably priced wholesale carts.....and we use suppliers in 4 states.  Since May of 2020 up to today, we have sold about a total of 10 carts in that time, all trade ins or carts we bought not running from people who wanted them gone.  Carts have doubled in price for the lower end models since this time last year.  I took the approach of wait and see, and now I staring down the barrel of the industry not catching up for another 12-18 months.  Now mind you, a golf cart company with no golf carts to sell doesn't typically work out all to well.  Our biggest competitor who was the largest cart company in north GA went bankrupt.  We've been fortunate that with their bankruptcy we picked up all their rental business, and also that people have been pulling old, long since forgotten and neglected carts out of the garage, basement, field or where ever it's been sitting and they need lots of repairs.  But the point of that is, make sure you are content going another year or more without.  Looking back, thinking about that pallet conversation, I had the chance to buy a truckload of carts but the prices were $500 higher than what they'd been so I passed.  Now a truckload is expensive, with pre covid being a little over $100k for 40 carts.  When they started raising prices, that $100k became $124k which is a huge increase.  And that's why I passed.  Knowing what I know today, I'd have bought 10 truckloads at that price.  
But if you are content with the performance of what you have now, then yea wait it out.  I'd been running a pair of GTX1080ti's for the last 6-7 years and it ran everything I wanted without any issues.  If not for mining, I'd still be running the 1080's.

Eskimo_Jo
EVGA, like other manufacturers had to set warranty only for the original buyer. To much scalpers resell this card on Ebay. Simply they didn't care

stang99x

rawalshree
Oh I thought they had that already. Amazed to know otherwise.
If they do this then it would definitely discourage people from buying from third party seller without warranty or Papers

Not really.  The scalpers just buy and give you the receipt.  The first card I bought the kid had had it for less than 18 hours according to the receipt he gave me with it.  The way around the first owner only warranty is no register the warranty unless you have to.  That way if you decided to sell it you could give the buyer the receipt and they could register it.  These days, you either do that or you do like you are and go without.  I dunno about you but I ain't standing in line for hours in the wee hours of the morning to get first shot at new inventory, as many around here still are.

stang99x

rawalshree
For the warranty workaround, if the original buyer doesn't register and gives it to another with receipt, can they not verify the purchase account. I mean the accounts will be different for the first buyer and while registering the product for warranty the next buyer would use their own account. Unless the first buyer keeps on making new accounts for buying and giving the account details along with receipt to the next buyer. Looks like a lot of work lol

You're only thinking about the cards bought direct.  Remember, all the major retailers carry them as well.  The one I bought I got from a guy who got it from Microcenter.  But you have best buy, B&H, newegg, etc that all sell the cards as well.  As to the purchase direct cards, you could say the person who bought it for you was a relative giving it to you as a gift.  Or make something else up, I don't think they are that hyper focused on it.  I could be wrong though.  And believe it or not, very few companies do any tracking by name.  You could get 3 credit cards from the same bank and they wouldn't know anything about the others as they don't view their internal records that way.  Or like say you had a Credit card from X bank and defaulted on it.  You could apply again for another card and they don't have internal records showing you just defaulted on them available to use in the decision for the new card.  The way companies use data these days is, to say the least inefficient in many ways. (and intrusive in many others)

EVGATech_LeeM
Yeah, I think it would be worthwhile to point out that we do catch nearly everyone who tries to claim to be the original owner when they've really purchased a product secondhand.  Too much information is given on proof of purchases these days and too many other details are easy for us to look up through different resellers.  And we've heard the "a relative gifted the card to me" a million times over the years.  Sometimes it's true, but more often than not there are just way too many inconsistencies and most people are not very good liars.  Moreover, receiving a card as a gift doesn't technically make you the original owner either; in cases where we believe the customer is being honest, we usually allow the warranty transfer, though (but please don't expect the warranty to change if you received the gift a year after it was originally purchased....).  With that said, sure, some fraud gets by, but not very often.
 
However, it's more important to remember that most of our retail products carry a global warranty that transfers to secondary owners.  So, basically, there's no real point of going through the song and dance of trying to convince us that your 4th cousin thrice removed on your step-mother's side gifted you with an RTX 3090 out of the goodness of his/her heart when tragically passing away in a gymnastics accident involving a moped, black ice, and clowns.  You get my drift.  Yes, second-hand owners lose out on things like an extended warranty, the ability to Step-Up, and the ability to select Cross-shipping as an RMA option.  Instead, you still get the remainder of the warranty from the date the product shipped from EVGA, and you get the same service as if you were the original owner.
 
Just want to make sure that you're all on the same page here, since it seems there might be a misconception that secondhand owners do not have a warranty.

EVGATech_LeeM
Yeah, I think it would be worthwhile to point out that we do catch nearly everyone who tries to claim to be the original owner when they've really purchased a product secondhand.  Too much information is given on proof of purchases these days and too many other details are easy for us to look up through different resellers.  And we've heard the "a relative gifted the card to me" a million times over the years.  Sometimes it's true, but more often than not there are just way too many inconsistencies and most people are not very good liars.  Moreover, receiving a card as a gift doesn't technically make you the original owner either; in cases where we believe the customer is being honest, we usually allow the warranty transfer, though (but please don't expect the warranty to change if you received the gift a year after it was originally purchased....).  With that said, sure, some fraud gets by, but not very often.
 However, it's more important to remember that most of our retail products carry a global warranty that transfers to secondary owners.  So, basically, there's no real point of going through the song and dance of trying to convince us that your 4th cousin thrice removed on your step-mother's side gifted you with an RTX 3090 out of the goodness of his/her heart when tragically passing away in a gymnastics accident involving a moped, black ice, and clowns.  You get my drift.  Yes, second-hand owners lose out on things like an extended warranty, the ability to Step-Up, and the ability to select Cross-sipping as an RMA option.  Instead, you still get the remainder of the warranty from the date the product shipped from EVGA, and you get the same service as if you were the original owner.
 Just want to make sure that you're all on the same page here, since it seems there might be a misconception that secondhand owners do not have a warranty.