Lordkaos
I would love to see the graphic card makers to force/making stores sell their products at MSRP prices...Im tired (pissed) seeing cards being sold for 2.5x the MSRP prices...  

I reported that to EVGA as well but a Vendor cannot force a reseller, even it's officiall partner, to keep to the MSRP.
I was able to catch a 3080 ftw3 ultra end of april in Germany and with shipment to Switzerland + import taxes i came on around 1890eur.
The great thing about is that i can upgrade to 3090 for 250dollar... in 5-6-10 years or so :D haha!
 
But yea - prices will keep going up as long the crypto currency goes up aswell. Let's be honnest: Not a single vendor is living from money getting from a casual gamer. You must have a reason to buy 6-8-10x3080 for 2000eur... and you probably will not do so if you plan to open a coffee offering kids pc-s for lanparties on hour basis for bdays to play fortnite together, right? :)
 
Also regarding the comment for that one kingpin: we have also one in Switzerland avaiable. Hardcore rare i know. But someone got it and if the person which got that one card decided to sell instead to use it because for that money that one person will get 2x new 3090ties and make 3 of them and than make 8 3070ties out of that - well we cannot do nothing about.
I know how it is since i was trying to get a 3080 since last year Nov. and i got it for almost 3x mrsp but nobody forced me to do so, right?
 
We just need to accept this. As long casual gamer money does not make the biggest part of earnings, the profit counts at the end. No one works for free :) and also improving products and re-engineering, re-designing, all machines for making all the hardware and labs for tasting costs a lot. but yea - i also suggested evga team to put more in own shop online than spread cards around the world where they get sold for x3 from msrp.

Ginwho
I thought I read that the RTX 3080 Ti was pushed up to May 26, or 27th. It must not have been official since I can't find it now.

According to the latest information from videocardz and guru3d the release from 3080Ti should be June 2nd and around 5days later, June 7th 3070Ti with GDDR6X.
I cant wait to benchmark one of these two! And i believe it will be both of them even i overpaid for it but hands-on and hardware ethusiast :)))

bad times for gamers :( queue for Eu is verry bad

Dabadger84

sunt88126

kccoshb
hopefully it wont take a year to get out of the first day Queue position.

Try in the first minute.

You mean try to get in queue in the first 20 seconds.  For a card launch that will be this big, anything after 30-60 seconds may end up waiting weeks or months.  Regardless of how much stock NVidia stockpiles before launch, there will be THOUSANDS of sign ups in the first 30 seconds, even if this card is $1000-$1500.  Mark me words.  eVGA can put all the anti-scalperism in their system they want, scalpers can still purchase one card per SKU & make profit off said one card, and thusly, the beginning of the queue is going to get absolutely SMASHED just like every launch has since they implemented the queue system.

I have to agree. People seem to have unrealistic expectations with regards to the 3080ti (oh I'll get elite membership and I will have a solid chance of getting a gpu via the notification queue).
 
Everyone has learned from previous gpu launches that you have to be there on launch day (more like launch seconds) in order to stand a chance of getting one. Since most of us know this by now and due to a vast majority of us (gamers) unable to secure a 3070/80/90 will result in a absurd amount of of people lining up for the 3080ti - it will be through the roof - possibly even worse than the regular 3080. I can guarantee you this. My biggest fear is that servers will crash, and if you do not mange to sign yourself up for gpu notification within the first 10 seconds of the launch I can guarantee that you will be waiting well into 2022 for a 3080ti.
 
Im not saying that 3080ti will be another paper launch, im just trying to point out that we are doomed regardless of what evga does to limit scalpers and bots. Demand is just too high, and the chip shortage will easily last until 2023.
 
Now someone else please cheer me up with something positive ;)

ervin87
@WhiteWolf92
Something positive is EVGA trying he's best to implement a queue human checked system.
But you are right webiste will crash and chances to get 3080ti or 3070ti are very small. Besides I'm from EU, so my hope is even smaller. But hey, at least it's a hope, and hope dies last.
 
 

I'm also from EU - this is why my hopes are soooo low...

TheCrunchyFox
Very glad to hear this. Hopefully by now they've got a lot of data and experience that helps them sort legitimate from suspicious orders. How much of a practical difference it will make is to be seen... Guess the 3080ti launch will be the testbed

... and we the lab rats haha

Yeah I don't know how many people have their eyes on the queue this time, and other than the 24 hrs thing there is no other solid information on what the Elite status entails. Launch is definitely pushed farther out in May though. I am a little concerned as earlier people were pretty sure about the May 18th date. Hopefully they aren't having yield issues or anything.

james1997bond
earlier people were pretty sure about the May 18th date.

Well, that's how rumors spread :)
There was never any solid proof about any date.

the wholesale market will still be dealing whole palettes of cards to individuals who have 100k in their pocket. They don't care who they sell it to, the price decides who gets to buy and how many.. Thanks god there is at least one branch like EVGA that has a queue system in place for individuals.

mech9t5
And yet we still see the Elite Membership only 3090 Kingpin Hybrid and HC being auctioned at Ebay.

Not really. There are opportunists everywhere. Someone could be like "Oh, I only need a 3080" and so they get in the queue for a 3090 knowing full well they are going to turn around and resell it. What Jacob and the team at EVGA has done is prevent people from being able to make a living at it. It's impossible to eliminate it everywhere.
 
One thing they COULD do is say "Well, if you come to EVGA for warranty work, without a receipt from either the EVGA store, OR an approved reseller, we won't honour your warranty" and watch how fast the scalper sales dry up overnight. Who wants to take the risk that your $3000.00 Card doesn't work and then get stuck with a paperweight?

mcarterstoner

mech9t5
And yet we still see the Elite Membership only 3090 Kingpin Hybrid and HC being auctioned at Ebay.

Not really. There are opportunists everywhere. Someone could be like "Oh, I only need a 3080" and so they get in the queue for a 3090 knowing full well they are going to turn around and resell it. What Jacob and the team at EVGA has done is prevent people from being able to make a living at it. It's impossible to eliminate it everywhere.
 
One thing they COULD do is say "Well, if you come to EVGA for warranty work, without a receipt from either the EVGA store, OR an approved reseller, we won't honour your warranty" and watch how fast the scalper sales dry up overnight. Who wants to take the risk that your $3000.00 Card doesn't work and then get stuck with a paperweight?

I am talking about the cards (hybrid and HC card) that show up in ebay a few days after the emails are sent out for purchase, not a few weeks/months after.

ty_ger07

DoubtlessSarang
doesn't Crypto burn the cards out fairly fast?

Why bring up crypto?  He didn't mention crypto.  Are you trying to stir the pot?
 
Mining crypto is easy on the GPU core (gaming is harder on the GPU core compared to mining), but mining is hard on the GPU memory (mining is harder on the GPU memory than gaming).  It's a toss-up.  At least mining is a relatively constant load with less thermal cycles, and thermal cycles tend to kill electronics.  It's really hard to say whether mining is worse on a card than gaming; so, let's just not start a off-topic toxic discussion.

I only said this because he brought up them voiding the warranty in the case of scalping.

EVGA should just use a lottery system for these launches.  Many of us are gainfully employed and don't have time to sit around spamming refresh on a website with a terrible backend infrastructure and a hilariously inept team that can't predict an influx of traffic on launch day.  It doesn't cost that much to reserve some EC2 inventory for scaling for a couple hours or create some read replicants of the backend DB...
 
Would love to see an email stating that Elite members who have previous purchases are eligible to enter into a lottery over the days preceding the actual launch, and that those who aren't selected get to automatically be entered with a random seed at the front of the notify queue, and then let everyone else pile on afterwards..

austin86

Knight_Ex
Due to the checks we've implemented, it is not possible for a single buyer to make multiple purchases to the same address for the same item, in addition to orders being manually verified and any suspicious or duplicate orders being cancelled.

That must suck if you legitimately need more then one card or if you order looks suspicious when its not.

mech9t5
 
 What Jacob and the team at EVGA has done is prevent people from being able to make a living at it. It's impossible to eliminate it everywhere.

TBH is would not be hard to beat with the amount to be made, PO boxes are cheep and can now be setup online and mail fording is free in the US at least. All it takes is a VC and a phony mail forward or PO and I don't think they were have a way to tell if one was doing that aside from looking at IPs and user agent stuff witch could be faked too. 

I'm sure there are plenty of ways how to cheat the system... i heard people even set up fake PC retail companies in order to buy bulk and then get a shipment of 100 gpu's just for their mining business.

Good to hear I suppose.