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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 15:44:57 (permalink)
By tomorrow we should know the score by looking at Ebay. I am guessing it was a runaway victory for the  bots
 
 
 

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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 15:47:55 (permalink)
There isn't a whole lot that these guys can do to prevent tens of thousands of people hitting a resource at once.
 
Just lottery the buying guys, i'd take that over nothing.

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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 15:49:29 (permalink)
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We need more anti scalper robots to ruin all the ebay listings and where ever else they pop up



 
No Nvidia, EVGA, ASUS, Zotac, and the link need to lean on Ebay and get Ebay to block all listings of these cards.  Ebay had done that for other items in the past that were being priced insanely high because of demand.
Ebay wont do it on their own, because they make $$ off stupidly high sale prices.  The only thing that'll get them to act is if enough Industry partners lean on them. 

But all of that is still a side show.  EVGA needs to learn how to keep a website running.  The fact that traffic on their webstore takes down their *ENTIRE* domain is pathetic. 
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 15:53:08 (permalink)
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By tomorrow we should know the score by looking at Ebay. I am guessing it was a runaway victory for the  bots



 
With the prices that these things are going for, you're not just facing bots... you're facing anyone with a web browser that wants to turn a quick profit.  Think about it, if there was an item that you could buy and flip and make your money back and $500-$1000 extra in less than an hour... wouldn't you do it. 

This amount of scarcity is bringing out EVERYONE who wants to make a quick buck.  I heard people in the grocery store the other day talking about trying to buy cards just to sell them to make money. 
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 15:53:11 (permalink)
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By tomorrow we should know the score by looking at Ebay. I am guessing it was a runaway victory for the  bots
 
 
 


Well without knowing how many were for sale it's hard to know the score.  However, there is already at least 3 ebay listings for 3080 ftw ultras.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 15:54:39 (permalink)
I get it. I'm frustrated as well but getting pissed at EVGA employees personally isn't going to accomplish anything.
 
That said it would be really nice if there was a timer added if you actually manage to get something in your cart. Check out in 3-5 minutes or it goes back into inventory to be sold to some other lucky person.

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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:05:24 (permalink)
Theres literally people on Twitter telling EVGA there running bots.. ****
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:09:33 (permalink)
same thing been f5ing since 6am went to work for a quick shift  managed to get one in cart cant check out its still their im wondering if ill just be able to complete this order when it comes back XD
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:29:24 (permalink)
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I am done with EVGA. I wish them another bankcropcy!



EVGA never filed for "bankropcy" or bankruptcy
 
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:34:01 (permalink)
I don't get some of the moaning...I mean if some of the WOLRD'S largest retailers like Amazon, Walmart & even Microsoft have server issues when hot ha things drop how are you guys harassing EVGA?




 
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:38:09 (permalink)
Yeah....today (9/23) was the THIRD time I got something into cart, went to checkout, verified my info, and had the website stall out. Once it finally refreshed, all the items were out of stock. It's getting really old, quick.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:45:48 (permalink)
Once an item gets into your cart, it should stay there reserved for you for an x amount of time.
Being able to add one and then not make it through checkout is absurd.

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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:48:04 (permalink)
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I feel like someone should mention this: There is a possibility they will cancel multiple orders when they find them to be from Bots, so keep an eye out, they may come back in stock again in about an hour.


They can do that. But they need to fix their store server that is now on the side of the road burning in a dumpster.




Aint going in stock any time today, twitter already confirmed it will be added to the next "launch" aka bot pile up.  They are just now considering they might need to add captcha to their broke checkout system.  All after telling us there is no bot problem, all while not realizing that Nvidia tried to do the captcha game and lost to bots yet again.  This company is lost when it comes to 2020.
 
LET US PRE-ORDER/BACK-ORDER, we have the technology...
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:49:39 (permalink)
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I feel like someone should mention this: There is a possibility they will cancel multiple orders when they find them to be from Bots, so keep an eye out, they may come back in stock again in about an hour.


They can do that. But they need to fix their store server that is now on the side of the road burning in a dumpster.




Aint $hit going in stock any time today, twitter already confirmed it will be added to the next "launch" aka bot pile up.  They are just now considering they might need to add captcha to their broke a$$ checkout system.  All after telling us there is no bot problem, all while not realizing that Nvidia tried to do the captcha game and lost to bots yet again.  This company is lost when it comes to 2020.
 
LET US PRE-ORDER/BACK-ORDER, we have the technology...




Yes this.
C'mon EVGA! Lot of loyal customers here that would like to buy a card from you.

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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 16:51:52 (permalink)
Why would they implement pre order when scalpers buy everything? That’s 100% sale of inventory, if they had pre orders than they wouldn’t get scalpers money right? I don’t even have video card right now waiting for this one, by the time situation stabilizes big Navi will come than maybe we can pick something right away that fits our needs.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:00:06 (permalink)
I got all the way to the last step of checkout after many errors on multiple steps and minutes of waiting for it to respond and clicked place order and it errored out. I reloaded the page and clicked place order again and it was spinning progress until error again. I tried multiple times until it finally went to the next screen and item has been removed from cart due to insufficient stock. So frustrating...
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:05:36 (permalink)
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Why would they implement pre order when scalpers buy everything? That’s 100% sale of inventory, if they had pre orders than they wouldn’t get scalpers money right? I don’t even have video card right now waiting for this one, by the time situation stabilizes big Navi will come than maybe we can pick something right away that fits our needs.



Because then they would build a database or queue of paid orders and easily eliminate duplicate credit cards/shipping address/IP address/etc.  Sure a scalper can still get in line, but only get 1 spot in line.  Then as new human orders get in line, hundreds of bots infront of them get removed as the queue gets served as stock comes in.
 
Its got alot more potential than this bull$hit

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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:06:08 (permalink)
They should require for checkout:
1. An account on EVGA's site.
2. Two form authentication via text to the number on your user profile.
3. A captcha.
 
That would help a lot. They should also review if 50 orders came from the same IP address, physical address, etc.
Also, not removing items before you can even proceed through checkout would be nice. Remove them from stock for 5 minutes in case the site times out. (Which it will.)
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:06:33 (permalink)
Sad, but I wonder if Captcha would make it worse for humans.  The bots can circumvent it.  Humans however take a little bit of time to do it and then the evga servers seem to get bogged down transferring between tasks, so adding a task sounds like it might just create more problems.
 
I get the impression there is no easy answer.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:10:00 (permalink)
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Why would they implement pre order when scalpers buy everything? That’s 100% sale of inventory, if they had pre orders than they wouldn’t get scalpers money right? I don’t even have video card right now waiting for this one, by the time situation stabilizes big Navi will come than maybe we can pick something right away that fits our needs.



Because then they would build a database or queue of paid orders and easily eliminate duplicate credit cards/shipping address/IP address/etc.  Sure a scalper can still get in line, but only get 1 spot in line.  Then as new human orders get in line, hundreds of bots infront of them get removed as the queue gets served as stock comes in.
 
Its got alot more potential than this bull$hit


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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:10:49 (permalink)
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They should require for checkout:
1. An account on EVGA's site.
2. Two form authentication via text to the number on your user profile.
3. A captcha.
 
That would help a lot. They should also review if 50 orders came from the same IP address, physical address, etc.
Also, not removing items before you can even proceed through checkout would be nice. Remove them from stock for 5 minutes in case the site times out. (Which it will.)




Ask folks who tried to buy FE cards today how the captcha worked for them. <another epic fail>
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:12:27 (permalink)
People openly talking about using bots to order from evga.com.

https://hardforum.com/threads/official-nvidia-ampere-in-stock-thread.2001399/post-1044738434

If Evga was my company.. no doubt I'd go back to phone ordering till we got that web site buttoned up to be bot bought free.

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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:25:31 (permalink)
I don't think there is any company in the world (Evga included) who actually care who buys their products as long as they get sold. They simply don't care that's why nothing changes. The bottom line is the most important. Unfortunate but true.
 
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:26:39 (permalink)
If something isn't done about the bots and scalpers, we will never get cards. If they continue to get all the cards on all the sites, then all of us gamers will just have to do without or pay the high prices. Which i personally will never do so i guess ill be without lol.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:27:03 (permalink)
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I don't think there is any company in the world (Evga included) who actually care who buys their products as long as they get sold. They simply don't care that's why nothing changes. The bottom line is the most important. Unfortunate but true.
 

Unfortunately I agree and I said the same thing on another forum I frequent regarding this.
At the end of the day, EVGA exists to make money. The money is all green whether it comes from you, me, or a bot...
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:28:15 (permalink)
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If something isn't done about the bots and scalpers, we will never get cards. If they continue to get all the cards on all the sites, then all of us gamers will just have to do without or pay the high prices. Which i personally will never do so i guess ill be without lol.

I keep coming close to paying the insane price on eBay. But then I convince myself that EVENTUALLY it's going to feel great to get one at the normal price.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:30:04 (permalink)
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If something isn't done about the bots and scalpers, we will never get cards. If they continue to get all the cards on all the sites, then all of us gamers will just have to do without or pay the high prices. Which i personally will never do so i guess ill be without lol.

I keep coming close to paying the insane price on eBay. But then I convince myself that EVENTUALLY it's going to feel great to get one at the normal price.


I agree 100% . If something isn’t done quickly then the scalpers will be the only ones with stock gpu’s . People will give in if they wipe the market out with no hope of getting one before Christmas and possibly even further out.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:31:47 (permalink)
Then good luck! Prob be 6 months I bet before everyone that's using a bot to score a card is done and moved on so the other guys can finally score a card.

But ya know as soon as that scalper sells a card online they will be back to buy another and another over and over till they are stuck with an unsold card.

Maybe when AMD drops their card, the bot people wont care and people wanting a 30xx card can buy one of those or vice versa.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:32:16 (permalink)
I understand preorder for us genuine consumers but I am saying on business wise, scalpers buy everything and some users get lucky with left overs. All these companies know this will pass by...but what matters NOW is that their inventory is already sold out which for them saying is...we are makin a killin right now.
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Re: Site breaks again.... 2020/09/23 17:41:27 (permalink)
Seriously these cards were only just released on the the 17th. It's been only a week
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