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2020/06/27 17:09:32 (permalink)
My old H100i wasnt enough to keep my i7 9700k cool, so  I bought a CM  ML360 R AIO  This has kept my cpu cool.
 
However my GPU has taken alot of heat.  I mean ALOT.  I used to get about 77c only in a handful of games at 3440x1440 with my EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW.  Now nearly all games do it.  I even set my fans to 100% for satisfactory on epic at 3440x1440 and I have 69C on full load.  With fans on auto games will range from 70 to 79c  When I crank fans to full power, I get 65 to 70 in those same games.
 
 
Is this acceptable? I game about 12 hours a day atm
 
 
My setup is fairly clean  https://imgur.com/a/1OMQwYf
 
I dust it, dont smoke and cat doesnt go near it.   Cable management is decent.
 
 
Case is a P400a
750watt 80gold cert psu
z390 ud mb
16gb ddr4 ram
1 1tb M2 SSD boot drive
1 250gb ssd drive
1 2tb SSHD firecuda
I7 9700K @ 4.6Ghz
 
Monitor 1  Acer Z35P Ultrawide 3440x1440 Gysnc
Monitor 2  LG 1920x1080 144hz Adaptive Sync
 
When idle temps range from 28 to 55 for idle to web broswing/youtubing.
 
Gaming temps are usually 65 to 75c  As of late more 70 to 79c
 
 
Is this worrisome or am I just over stressing this?  Thanks
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Re: Should I worry that my AIO might "cook" my gpu? 2020/06/27 21:32:00 (permalink)
Probably you are seeing the effects of the thermal contact between the core and the cooler degrading.  If you removed the cooler, removed the thermal paste, and applied new thermal paste, your temperatures would probably return to what was familiar.  It is not uncommon for people (even experts) to recommend replacing thermal paste once a year.  Until then, you will probably see temperatures continue to degrade; but honestly, I don't think they are bad enough yet that you should lose sleep over it.
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Re: Should I worry that my AIO might "cook" my gpu? 2020/06/27 21:50:26 (permalink)
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Probably you are seeing the effects of the thermal contact between the core and the cooler degrading.  If you removed the cooler, removed the thermal paste, and applied new thermal paste, your temperatures would probably return to what was familiar.  It is not uncommon for people (even experts) to recommend replacing thermal paste once a year.  Until then, you will probably see temperatures continue to degrade; but honestly, I don't think they are bad enough yet that you should lose sleep over it.




 
I have never took a GPU apart before, and I cant atm afford to screw it up.  My GPU isnt even 3 years old yet.  Can you link some videos on how that works?   But the heat only increased when I put my new AIO in, which makes me think the front mounted aio is the cause of the heat.
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Re: Should I worry that my AIO might "cook" my gpu? 2020/06/27 22:07:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby GameOverMan 2020/06/27 22:08:15
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I have never took a GPU apart before, and I cant atm afford to screw it up.  Can you link some videos on how that works?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBjTi0uj64E
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUWVVTY63hc
 
 
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But the heat only increased when I put my new AIO in, which makes me think the front mounted aio is the cause of the heat.

Well, then you have your answer; and don't worry about it.
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Re: Should I worry that my AIO might "cook" my gpu? 2020/06/28 08:19:08 (permalink)
Radiators cool better with the fan(s) sucking in cooler outside air and is usually the recommended way to mount the fans for better cooling, but that can increase your case air temp that your GPU relies on to cool it and make it run hotter.

Radiator fan(s) sucking warmer air out of the case may result in less CPU cooling, but better GPU cooling.
 
You might consider replacing the TIM on the GPU chip with some better/good stuff like Kryonaut (12.5 W/mk Thermal Conductivity), evenly spreading a thin layer to completely cover all areas of the chip..Or do it up like a boss and use Conductonaut (73 W/mk Thermal Conductivity), but that's liquid metal and highly electrically conductive, of course, and application method/precautions must be adhered to.
 
Those temps could probably be better, and I would try to get them down, but are really nothing to be concerned about..Not going to 'cook' your GPU..The Maximum GPU Temperature is 91C (see specs) and should then shut itself off (THERMTRIP) to prevent silicone damage, just like a CPU.

See also: Why does my EVGA graphics card run hot? in the EVGA FAQs.
 
Replacing the TIM does not void the warranty as long as you don't damage the card in any way in the process.

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Re: Should I worry that my AIO might "cook" my gpu? 2020/06/28 10:56:18 (permalink)
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Radiators cool better with the fan(s) sucking in cooler outside air and is usually the recommended way to mount the fans for better cooling, but that can increase your case air temp that your GPU relies on to cool it and make it run hotter.

Radiator fan(s) sucking warmer air out of the case may result in less CPU cooling, but better GPU cooling.

You might consider replacing the TIM on the GPU chip with some better/good stuff like Kryonaut (12.5 W/mk Thermal Conductivity), evenly spreading a thin layer to completely cover all areas of the chip..Or do it up like a boss and use Conductonaut (73 W/mk Thermal Conductivity), but that's liquid metal and highly electrically conductive, of course, and application method/precautions must be adhered to.

Those temps could probably be better, and I would try to get them down, but are really nothing to be concerned about..Not going to 'cook' your GPU..The Maximum GPU Temperature is 91C (see specs) and should then shut itself off (THERMTRIP) to prevent silicone damage, just like a CPU.

See also: Why does my EVGA graphics card run hot? in the EVGA FAQs.

Replacing the TIM does not void the warranty as long as you don't damage the card in any way in the process.



 
Ty, the case doesnt support a 360MM AIO on top, so I would have to consider a different case if I wanted to try for better air flow, but the p400a was supposed to have decent air flow.   

Rebuilding a PC I am 100% fine with, I have enough ram and cpus laying around I can fix anything I break, but I never took apart a GPU and I currently have no backup gpu and not in a position to afford replacing it if I screw it up.  For a first time repaste, I'd much rather not do it on a GTX 1080ti.  Ill have to see if there are any shops for it.  I am sure its an easy job, but I cant afford to mess it up
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Re: Should I worry that my AIO might "cook" my gpu? 2020/06/28 10:57:49 (permalink)
Also My GPU is still under warranty here.    Would I be able to RMA it for service?   I never used it before, how much would that cost me?
 
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Re: Should I worry that my AIO might "cook" my gpu? 2020/06/28 11:29:28 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby GameOverMan 2020/06/29 08:08:53
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Also My GPU is still under warranty here.    Would I be able to RMA it for service?   I never used it before, how much would that cost me?


EVGA doesn't do repairs anymore..If you send/RMA it to them, guaranteed they'll find nothing wrong with it and return it to you..You have to pay shipping to EVGA and they pay return shipping to you, so you'll be out the shipping cost, whatever that may be.
 
If you're not confident with repasting it, then yeah, you can take it to a PC repair shop and have them do it.

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