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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/28 22:51:09 (permalink)
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This is an old pic of my rig with my 1080's in SLI and 5960x... I've since mounted the lights... and I love how my new CPU never gets above 40C under load... the 5960x runs pretty damn hot.




Not bad! Yeah, non-overclocked Xeons run cool compared to the voltage hungry i7s. Even at default settings this 1660V3 only pulled about 1.05V (not that I'd run a fully unlocked Xeon at default clocks!).



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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/28 23:38:20 (permalink)
so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 00:02:23 (permalink)
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so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo
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If by "you were right all along" you are referring to my rectitude, then I agree!
 
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 08:58:18 (permalink)
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so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo
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If by "you were right all along" you are referring to my rectitude, then I agree!
 
My 4K Ultra:

 
Your 4K Ultra:

 
My 1080P Ultra:

 
Your 1080P Ultra:




<p>so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo</p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold;">&nbsp;</span></p>
 
I still don't get your point but whatever... the difference is within the margin of error 2-5 FPS isn't going to be noticeable. So again, what is your problem exactly? And why did I have to "prove" anything? What was I proving? Again I ask: Are you really that surprised that a e5-2696 v4 doesn't bottleneck the 1080 Ti? Is that what you mean? And what's with the attitude? Who cares!

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 09:05:43 (permalink)
Getting back to the original post with the X299 chipset coming sooner than expected it might be better to upgrade to a new motherboard and CPU assuming the price on both are affordable.

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 09:16:00 (permalink)
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so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo
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If by "you were right all along" you are referring to my rectitude, then I agree!
 
My 4K Ultra:

 
Your 4K Ultra:

 
My 1080P Ultra:

 
Your 1080P Ultra:




<p>so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo</p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold;">&nbsp;</span></p>
 
I still don't get your point but whatever... the difference is within the margin of error 2-5 FPS isn't going to be noticeable. So again, what is your problem exactly? And why did I have to "prove" anything? What was I proving? Again I ask: Are you really that surprised that a e5-2696 v4 doesn't bottleneck the 1080 Ti? Is that what you mean? And what's with the attitude? Who cares!




You also stated that you get 40-50FPS average at 4K ultra. I called you on it, and your own results show it. 
 
That's the point, that's what I was out to prove. You tracking now? Am I a self-righteous prig? You bet!
 
As for bottlenecks - I guarantee you that a 7700K at 4.6+GHz blows both of our chips out of the water and will get even better minimum FPS and average FPS rates - so technically BOTH of our CPUs are a bottleneck for the GPU. I'm certain that you're aware that in any computer there's ALWAYS a bottleneck somewhere, no exceptions. No, 5 to 7 FPS difference is actually quite large, and I DO consider it a significant difference. In addition the built-in benchmark fails to test night time driving - you want to see FPS drops? Drive a vehicle at night at ultra settings and watch those shadow calculations on the CPU kill FPS.
 
That said, I fully agree that results are often subjective in what is acceptable to one user is unacceptable to another. Case and point being 4K ultra (or even 4K very high or high) dropping below 55FPS - it's completely experience breaking, and it's why I run that game at 1080P ultra. You may not have an issue running at 32FPS - I assure you that I do. I hate it when the game drops below 55FPS, let alone a slideshow ~30.
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 09:49:34 (permalink)
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so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo
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If by "you were right all along" you are referring to my rectitude, then I agree!
 
My 4K Ultra:

 
Your 4K Ultra:

 
My 1080P Ultra:

 
Your 1080P Ultra:




<p>so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo</p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold;">&nbsp;</span></p>
 
I still don't get your point but whatever... the difference is within the margin of error 2-5 FPS isn't going to be noticeable. So again, what is your problem exactly? And why did I have to "prove" anything? What was I proving? Again I ask: Are you really that surprised that a e5-2696 v4 doesn't bottleneck the 1080 Ti? Is that what you mean? And what's with the attitude? Who cares!




You also stated that you get 40-50FPS average at 4K ultra. I called you on it, and your own results show it. 
 
That's the point, that's what I was out to prove. You tracking now? Am I a self-righteous prig? You bet!
 
As for bottlenecks - I guarantee you that a 7700K at 4.6+GHz blows both of our chips out of the water and will get even better minimum FPS and average FPS rates - so technically BOTH of our CPUs are a bottleneck for the GPU. I'm certain that you're aware that in any computer there's ALWAYS a bottleneck somewhere, no exceptions. No, 5 to 7 FPS difference is actually quite large, and I DO consider it a significant difference. In addition the built-in benchmark fails to test night time driving - you want to see FPS drops? Drive a vehicle at night at ultra settings and watch those shadow calculations on the CPU kill FPS.
 
That said, I fully agree that results are often subjective in what is acceptable to one user is unacceptable to another. Case and point being 4K ultra (or even 4K very high or high) dropping below 55FPS - it's completely experience breaking, and it's why I run that game at 1080P ultra. You may not have an issue running at 32FPS - I assure you that I do. I hate it when the game drops below 55FPS, let alone a slideshow ~30.




Running on ultra is stupid as the visual improvements are minimal over disabling temporal AA and things that really don't have a huge impact on visual quality... that's why I usally run FXAA and be done with it. With those settings I certainly do hit 40-50FPS. You can have your opinion but this isn't just a gaming rig. Our 4k scores are nearly identical with a margin of error of 2 FPS which is as close to identical as you can get. If you think you can notice a 2 FPS difference you're lying.
 
I use it for tons of different things for work (virtualization, 3d applications, OpenCL / Cuda work loads and other heavy workloads) Gaming is just a bonus. The reason I went with the 1080 Ti, I had 2 x 1080's and the power draw was insane for very little SLI scaling in games... the 1080 Ti easily replaces both 1080's in SLI since SLI doesn't always scale well with games. Anyway you've wasted my time enough. Good day.
post edited by enkrypt3d - 2017/04/29 10:02:32

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 11:37:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby enkrypt3d 2017/04/29 13:48:32
Arestavo, you went full bipolar on enkrypt.  You basically taunted him and tried saying he was lying or that he didn't actually have all that hardware or at least that's how you were coming out as.  Now you're saying about FPS difference?   Dude, you seriously need to find a better hobby and not challenge everything you see or do because you're not always in the right.  Example one, you scare people away from M.2 because you feel SATA is faster.  (Facepalm)  Because your "test results" said so and everyone should bite the bullet.  Anyways, carry on and lets get this thread back on track.  Less bi-polarism.

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 11:51:46 (permalink)
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Arestavo, you went full bipolar on enkrypt.  You basically taunted him and tried saying he was lying or that he didn't actually have all that hardware or at least that's how you were coming out as.  Now you're saying about FPS difference?   Dude, you seriously need to find a better hobby and not challenge everything you see or do because you're not always in the right.  Example one, you scare people away from M.2 because you feel SATA is faster.  (Facepalm)  Because your "test results" said so and everyone should bite the bullet.  Anyways, carry on and lets get this thread back on track.  Less bi-polarism.




Faster? No. Not much of a difference? ABSOLUTELY! https://hardforum.com/threads/nvme-m-2-ram-drive-raid-sata-iii-ssd-game-load-time-comparisons.1911914/ Also, please continue to not bother looking at the bottom of that first post where I also linked full blown reviews that tested game load and windows load times as well.
 
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 11:57:04 (permalink)
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so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo
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If by "you were right all along" you are referring to my rectitude, then I agree!
 
My 4K Ultra:

 
Your 4K Ultra:

 
My 1080P Ultra:

 
Your 1080P Ultra:




<p>so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo</p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold;">&nbsp;</span></p>
 
I still don't get your point but whatever... the difference is within the margin of error 2-5 FPS isn't going to be noticeable. So again, what is your problem exactly? And why did I have to "prove" anything? What was I proving? Again I ask: Are you really that surprised that a e5-2696 v4 doesn't bottleneck the 1080 Ti? Is that what you mean? And what's with the attitude? Who cares!




You also stated that you get 40-50FPS average at 4K ultra. I called you on it, and your own results show it. 
 
That's the point, that's what I was out to prove. You tracking now? Am I a self-righteous prig? You bet!
 
As for bottlenecks - I guarantee you that a 7700K at 4.6+GHz blows both of our chips out of the water and will get even better minimum FPS and average FPS rates - so technically BOTH of our CPUs are a bottleneck for the GPU. I'm certain that you're aware that in any computer there's ALWAYS a bottleneck somewhere, no exceptions. No, 5 to 7 FPS difference is actually quite large, and I DO consider it a significant difference. In addition the built-in benchmark fails to test night time driving - you want to see FPS drops? Drive a vehicle at night at ultra settings and watch those shadow calculations on the CPU kill FPS.
 
That said, I fully agree that results are often subjective in what is acceptable to one user is unacceptable to another. Case and point being 4K ultra (or even 4K very high or high) dropping below 55FPS - it's completely experience breaking, and it's why I run that game at 1080P ultra. You may not have an issue running at 32FPS - I assure you that I do. I hate it when the game drops below 55FPS, let alone a slideshow ~30.




Running on ultra is stupid as the visual improvements are minimal over disabling temporal AA and things that really don't have a huge impact on visual quality... that's why I usally run FXAA and be done with it. With those settings I certainly do hit 40-50FPS. You can have your opinion but this isn't just a gaming rig. Our 4k scores are nearly identical with a margin of error of 2 FPS which is as close to identical as you can get. If you think you can notice a 2 FPS difference you're lying.
 
I use it for tons of different things for work (virtualization, 3d applications, OpenCL / Cuda work loads and other heavy workloads) Gaming is just a bonus. The reason I went with the 1080 Ti, I had 2 x 1080's and the power draw was insane for very little SLI scaling in games... the 1080 Ti easily replaces both 1080's in SLI since SLI doesn't always scale well with games. Anyway you've wasted my time enough. Good day.




So long, and thanks for all the fish!
 
Edit: and for the record, 4K Ultra with FXAA set still drops down to the 30s - you can have it, I want none of it.
post edited by arestavo - 2017/04/29 12:02:37
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/04/29 13:43:52 (permalink)
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so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo
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If by "you were right all along" you are referring to my rectitude, then I agree!
 
My 4K Ultra
 
Your 4K Ultra:
1080P Ultra:
 
 
Your 1080P Ultra:
 


<p>so what, that's it??? After all that drama? No "You were right all along"? Come on man........ @arestavo</p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold;">&nbsp;</span></p>
 
I still don't get your point but whatever... the difference is within the margin of error 2-5 FPS isn't going to be noticeable. So again, what is your problem exactly? And why did I have to "prove" anything? What was I proving? Again I ask: Are you really that surprised that a e5-2696 v4 doesn't bottleneck the 1080 Ti? Is that what you mean? And what's with the attitude? Who cares!




You also stated that you get 40-50FPS average at 4K ultra. I called you on it, and your own results show it. 
 
That's the point, that's what I was out to prove. You tracking now? Am I a self-righteous prig? You bet!
 
As for bottlenecks - I guarantee you that a 7700K at 4.6+GHz blows both of our chips out of the water and will get even better minimum FPS and average FPS rates - so technically BOTH of our CPUs are a bottleneck for the GPU. I'm certain that you're aware that in any computer there's ALWAYS a bottleneck somewhere, no exceptions. No, 5 to 7 FPS difference is actually quite large, and I DO consider it a significant difference. In addition the built-in benchmark fails to test night time driving - you want to see FPS drops? Drive a vehicle at night at ultra settings and watch those shadow calculations on the CPU kill FPS.
 
That said, I fully agree that results are often subjective in what is acceptable to one user is unacceptable to another. Case and point being 4K ultra (or even 4K very high or high) dropping below 55FPS - it's completely experience breaking, and it's why I run that game at 1080P ultra. You may not have an issue running at 32FPS - I assure you that I do. I hate it when the game drops below 55FPS, let alone a slideshow ~30.




Running on ultra is stupid as the visual improvements are minimal over disabling temporal AA and things that really don't have a huge impact on visual quality... that's why I usally run FXAA and be done with it. With those settings I certainly do hit 40-50FPS. You can have your opinion but this isn't just a gaming rig. Our 4k scores are nearly identical with a margin of error of 2 FPS which is as close to identical as you can get. If you think you can notice a 2 FPS difference you're lying.
 
I use it for tons of different things for work (virtualization, 3d applications, OpenCL / Cuda work loads and other heavy workloads) Gaming is just a bonus. The reason I went with the 1080 Ti, I had 2 x 1080's and the power draw was insane for very little SLI scaling in games... the 1080 Ti easily replaces both 1080's in SLI since SLI doesn't always scale well with games. Anyway you've wasted my time enough. Good day.




So long, and thanks for all the fish!
 
Edit: and for the record, 4K Ultra with FXAA set still drops down to the 30s - you can have it, I want none of it.




You're entitled to your opinion which doesn't mean I'm wrong. I still don't understand your contemptuous attitude.... and btw I do see 50 FPS at times while playing the game but what does it matter? You do seriously need to find something better to do with your time.
 
@GTXJackBauer thanks for backing me up... I have no idea what this dude's problem is... major inferiority complex I guess?
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/03 12:34:05 (permalink)
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I ended up going with the Xeon E5-2696 V4 OEM (non-ES) :D Cant wait!

This should work just fine on my x99 classified with the latest bios? Not planning on going with ECC memory or anything... let me know guys thanks!


Great choice, please let us see some benchmarks when you get your rig up and running.



Still waiting on that screenshot of your multiplier running above stock turbo boost.

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/03 13:08:59 (permalink)
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I'm not ignoring you, I'm recovering from an open heart surgery.



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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/03 13:23:07 (permalink)
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/03 17:50:58 (permalink)
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I ended up going with the Xeon E5-2696 V4 OEM (non-ES) :D Cant wait!

This should work just fine on my x99 classified with the latest bios? Not planning on going with ECC memory or anything... let me know guys thanks!


Great choice, please let us see some benchmarks when you get your rig up and running.



Still waiting on that screenshot of your multiplier running above stock turbo boost.

I'm not ignoring you, I'm recovering from an open heart surgery.


I wish you a speedy recovery as well.

That said, I'm still waiting. Mainly I'm still waiting to see if it's true because, if it is, that will mean that the only fully multiplier unlocked V4 Xeons are QS versions. Which is a big deal seeing as how Intel, in their infinite wisdom, saved us all from the scourge of unlocked Xeons with their latest lineup - and will likely continue doing so.
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/19 17:30:50 (permalink)
Well, I've got confirmation from ShepsCrook over on the HardForums that QS 2XXX V4 processors are still multiplier locked. You CAN, depending on the motherboard, set all cores to the max single core boost multiplier. You cannot, however, set them even a single multiplier higher and have it actually run that high (also known as an unlocked multiplier).
 
I guess we'll have to see what comes next from Intel, and if Threadripper from AMD forces them to change their minds.
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/20 17:28:03 (permalink)
I tried setting my multiplier to x37 and it just gets reset to the default auto... Is there some secret sauce in the bios to run this 2699 v4 chip at 3700Mhz (max turbo) all the time? 

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/20 18:01:28 (permalink)
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I tried setting my multiplier to x37 and it just gets reset to the default auto... Is there some secret sauce in the bios to run this 2699 v4 chip at 3700Mhz (max turbo) all the time? 


If it doesn't work in the BIOS, try using throttlestop or Intel's XTU.
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/21 13:30:06 (permalink)
no dice... Thinking of going with the Asus x99 deluxe II... seeing some issues with not getting enough PCI lanes for my 3 NVME SSD's... but i doubt I'll be able to ever run this chip at 3.6-3.7Ghz all the time...

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/21 13:39:08 (permalink)
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no dice... Thinking of going with the Asus x99 deluxe II... seeing some issues with not getting enough PCI lanes for my 3 NVME SSD's... but i doubt I'll be able to ever run this chip at 3.6-3.7Ghz all the time...


What will you do with your EVGA X99 Classified Motherboard?

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/21 13:46:01 (permalink)
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no dice... Thinking of going with the Asus x99 deluxe II... seeing some issues with not getting enough PCI lanes for my 3 NVME SSD's... but i doubt I'll be able to ever run this chip at 3.6-3.7Ghz all the time...


What will you do with your EVGA X99 Classified Motherboard?


currently RMA'ing it to see if that helps..... if not I'll probably get rid of it.

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/22 10:13:53 (permalink)
anyone have recommendations of motherboards that officially support the xeon 2600's?

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/22 17:13:48 (permalink)
Asus X99 E 10G WS? Asus X99 E WS? Or Asus Deluxe II?
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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/23 08:07:45 (permalink)
Asus x99-E WS It is :)

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/23 16:44:20 (permalink)
Are you Bumping your Thread

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/23 16:47:34 (permalink)
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Are you Bumping your Thread




lol just talking to myself i guess since no one else is replying.

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/23 16:50:07 (permalink)
Best of luck with that ASUS MB

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/23 17:16:07 (permalink)
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Best of luck with that ASUS MB


cheers! Yea I wanted something that has official xeon support... no idea why EVGA can't make that happen... but oh well. I used to be a huge fan all the way back to the 7800GT GPU (which I still have).

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Re: Should I upgrade my 5960X CPU? 2017/05/23 17:23:48 (permalink)
Well I look at it as a Xeon is a Server CPU and not really a Gamming CPU.
I will say I was really happy with my last Xeon(s) (Dell T630) or I should say my MS SQL Server did.
I came close to that MB but found the X99 Classified Motherboard had better 4-Way SLI Support.

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