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2021/01/12 10:10:25 (permalink)
So according to Nvidia's CES talk and this website
 
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/
 
 
 

 
 
Does that mean EVGA will provide all the RTX3000 owners with new VBIOS that would enable this feature? If so what would be the expected roll out schedule?

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/01/12 10:20:05 (permalink)
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    So according to Nvidia's CES talk and this website
     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/
     
     
     

     
     
    Does that mean EVGA will provide all the RTX3000 owners with new VBIOS that would enable this feature? If so what would be the expected roll out schedule?


    Once the update Is made available from NVidia, EVGA will be able to provide the update. It reads that it will be at least March before we see the update though.

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/01/12 10:28:24 (permalink)
    Our Game Ready Driver with Resizable BAR support will be released alongside the GeForce RTX 3060 in late February.
     
    interesting 
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/01/12 10:29:10 (permalink)
    I'd love to see this happen, actually
     

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/01/12 10:31:14 (permalink)
    the entirety of 3dmark leaderboards is able to get a reset  
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/01/12 10:36:42 (permalink)
    Don't forget that the motherboard needs to support the resizable BAR, of which only the Z490 has in EVGA's lineup.
     
    When I asked about their flagship X299 line I got a boilerplate response with the Z490 as the only confirmed motherboard.
    "We have released a BIOS update for our Z490 based motherboards however I cannot guarantee that we will release an update for the X299 series for the function. I apologize for any inconvenience."
     
    Even though support for BAR has been a part of Intel's lineup for a long time:
    "It gets more interesting—Intel processors have been supporting this feature since the company's 4th Gen Core "Haswell," which introduced it with its 20-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 root-complex. This means that every Intel processor dating back to 2014 can technically support Resizable-BAR, and it's just a matter of motherboard vendors releasing UEFI firmware updates for their products (i.e. Intel 8-series chipsets and later). AMD extensively advertises SAM as adding a 1-2% performance boost to Radeon RX 6800 series graphics cards. Since this is a PCI-SIG feature, NVIDIA plans to add support for it on some of its GPUs, too. Meanwhile, in addition to AMD 500-series chipsets, even certain Intel 400-series chipset motherboards started receiving Resizable BAR support through firmware updates."
     
    https://www.techpowerup.com/275565/amd-ryzen-3000-and-older-zen-chips-dont-support-sam-due-to-hardware-limitation-intel-chips-since-haswell-support-it

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/01/12 13:15:54 (permalink)
    wonder how much a 3090 will gain, if its bootlenecked in some ways even with ggdr6x
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 11:16:21 (permalink)
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    the entirety of 3dmark leaderboards is able to get a reset  


    Resizable BAR Driver available now:  //https:// www. nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/170885/en-us
     
     
    Now we need the vBIOS
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 11:43:09 (permalink)
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    the entirety of 3dmark leaderboards is able to get a reset  


    Resizable BAR Diver available now:  .
     
     
    Now we need the vBIOS




    Did I miss the patch note saying it was enabled? *goes back to look*
     

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 11:46:50 (permalink)
    BIOS available towards end of March.
     


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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 11:53:20 (permalink)
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    BIOS available towards end of March.
     


    Any ETA for the 3080/3090 XOC VBIOS as well?

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 11:53:32 (permalink)
    From https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/
    VBIOS UpdateGeForce RTX 3060 desktop graphics cards launched February 25th, 2021, with a pre-installed Resizable BAR-ready VBIOS. If you purchase one, all you need is a compatible motherboard and motherboard SBIOS, described above, and our newest Game Ready Driver, detailed below.
    Late March, NVIDIA will release downloadable VBIOS updates for all Founders Edition GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs to enable Resizable BAR, and likewise, partners will release VBIOS updates for their custom models, too.
    Check back then for further information and instructions.

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 14:43:05 (permalink)
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    BIOS available towards end of March.
     




    Hopefully with XOC version with fixes for unbalanced power loading on 8 pins and 430w cap on 3xxx FTW3 cards....
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 15:45:20 (permalink)
    looking forward to it . I wonder if the kingpin that I am in queue for will have it or if I will have to install it?
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 16:26:25 (permalink)
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    Don't forget that the motherboard needs to support the resizable BAR, of which only the Z490 has in EVGA's lineup.
     
    When I asked about their flagship X299 line I got a boilerplate response with the Z490 as the only confirmed motherboard.
    "We have released a BIOS update for our Z490 based motherboards however I cannot guarantee that we will release an update for the X299 series for the function. I apologize for any inconvenience."
     
    Even though support for BAR has been a part of Intel's lineup for a long time:
    "It gets more interesting—Intel processors have been supporting this feature since the company's 4th Gen Core "Haswell," which introduced it with its 20-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 root-complex. This means that every Intel processor dating back to 2014 can technically support Resizable-BAR, and it's just a matter of motherboard vendors releasing UEFI firmware updates for their products (i.e. Intel 8-series chipsets and later). AMD extensively advertises SAM as adding a 1-2% performance boost to Radeon RX 6800 series graphics cards. Since this is a PCI-SIG feature, NVIDIA plans to add support for it on some of its GPUs, too. Meanwhile, in addition to AMD 500-series chipsets, even certain Intel 400-series chipset motherboards started receiving Resizable BAR support through firmware updates."

    https://www.techpowerup.com/275565/amd-ryzen-3000-and-older-zen-chips-dont-support-sam-due-to-hardware-limitation-intel-chips-since-haswell-support-it


    The support should happen in every motherboard afterwards so it should be a good improvement.

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 18:20:04 (permalink)
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    BIOS available towards end of March.
     

     
    Add 24w more to the 3090 XC3 Hybrid kit Bios while you're at it 
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/25 18:24:49 (permalink)
    Will this also have any adjustments for power draw limits across pci-e ports?
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/02/26 17:15:43 (permalink)
    Resizeable BAR seems to be the CPU-facing technology for making the entire VRAM addressable from CPU.   I assume it's a tunneling abstraction layer which effectively performs the same function as RTX-IO allowing direct communication between the GPU and SSD over PCIE bus.
     
    It seems that these two technologies hold tremendous potential to improve card performance in revolutionary ways, and I'm very excited for both of them.   My hope is that RTX-IO and Resizeable BAR significantly reduce the load time of DAZ Studio .duf scene files, since they are essentially just enormous compressed text files with textures that have to be loaded into VRAM.
     
    When can we expect to see RTX-IO as a supplement to BAR?
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/06 05:23:50 (permalink)
    the new bios will cut Mining 50% , and cant rollback !!!
    are you still want it ???
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/06 05:35:53 (permalink)
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    the new bios will cut Mining 50% , and cant rollback !!!
    are you still want it ???


    Source?
     
    or just FUD?

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/06 05:40:23 (permalink)
    FUD, But I thinking will be true.
    So you guys still want it ???
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/06 05:43:58 (permalink)
    If it's FUD then there really isn't any point to this discussion.

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/06 22:55:45 (permalink)
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    the new bios will cut Mining 50% , and cant rollback !!!
    are you still want it ???



    They can't prevent you from rolling back the BIOS on the current cards.  So your speculation is just spreading false rumors.

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/06 23:07:25 (permalink)
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    FUD, But I thinking will be true.
    So you guys still want it ???

    I'm thinking you're a troll that won't be around long. Prove me wrong by never trolling again.

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/07 09:59:58 (permalink)
    Will all 3 BIOSes of the 3090 kingpin (Normal, OC, LN2) get the VBIOS update to enable resizable bar? or it will just be the Normal BIOS?
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/07 13:57:00 (permalink)
    NVIDIA not release support resizable bar bios yet .
    The time I know now is about the end of March .
    All BIOS NEED NVIDIA RELEASE TO PARTNER .
    Because NVIDIA made the mining card now ,
    So I think the new gaming card bios ,
    May cut mining 50% performance .
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/08 12:22:30 (permalink)
    i wouldn't care honestly. I don't mine Ethereum. and the BIOS limit doesnt affect anything other than ETH mining, so yes I would use it.
     
    I don't think resizable BAR will make much difference for the kinds of compute processing I'm doing though.

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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/08 12:55:05 (permalink)
    I asked this somewhere else, but no response.

    I apologize for the lack of knowledge, but does anyone know if reBAR is affected at all by hardware accelerated gpu scheduling?
    Would HAGS and reBAR work in tandem?
    Should I disable HAGS if I have reBAR enabled?

    Thanks in advance
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/14 05:01:34 (permalink)
    When you drop the 3070 bios update for REBAR be sure to increase the power limit also
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    Re: Resizable BAR Support VBIOS Update? 2021/03/14 12:00:56 (permalink)
    More power limit on RTX 3090 XC3 please. This card can handle more, just want to see what is offered from the software team as a revision 
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