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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/17 12:16:40
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Going off the Stinger Block, this is a REALLY ROUGH draft of the CPU block. Keeping it as true to the stinger format as possible, just simply based on this review: http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2267685  This is just a rough hand-jam @ work while I had a few minutes. I was going to keep it a solid square just to make my life easier, then I realized base on the blue rectangle on the left side that there are caps to worry about. So I just opted to make it in an X format. Again, SUPER rough draft, just keeping as true a form to the Stinger block as I can. Still haven't finished the lapping machine, but I have an idea how to do so.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/17 14:13:09
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I got a new EVO now since that one had some weirdness to it. Not sure if i want to open it to test them against each other or sell it ..
I am hoping the stinger block is better still.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/17 17:12:29
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So how does the new EVO compare? Are the temps the same, better, or worst?
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/17 18:54:58
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So how does the new EVO compare? Are the temps the same, better, or worst?
lol not sure, I am keeping it in the package for right now. I think I will test it this weekend, not much to do other than get some new dress shoes and belt, maybe some new buttons for shirt.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/17 21:17:34
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Please do, because if there is no difference then there is no point making this CPU block?
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/18 06:23:20
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okay ill do it, just because you asked nateman and you've done a lot for this community. I dont think the results will change but ill try it out. Will be with a d5 pump and a single 240mm ek pe rad.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/18 07:55:57
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I already committed to the lapping machine, since I can use that for anything. But I am doing this because you said there was a 5°C temp difference. I don't think a new block will perform any different since all their blocks (and mine) are all CNC'd which makes the same part over and over.
I don't know how much time their parts are in human hands, but I know the parts I make have LOTS of time in my hands. I didn't think my block would be 5°C different then someone who has been doing CPU blocks for YEARS, so your second test may hold the answer. (or you have been installing their block wrong all along ;)
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/18 09:34:03
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I saw a 5C temperature difference just from using fresh thermal paste vs. thermal paste that has had time to heat cycle and spread out for weeks. So if he's comparing temps from a block that's been mounted for a while to a block that's been mounted 10 minutes then it's not really comparable.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/18 14:11:56
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I saw a 5C temperature difference just from using fresh thermal paste vs. thermal paste that has had time to heat cycle and spread out for weeks. So if he's comparing temps from a block that's been mounted for a while to a block that's been mounted 10 minutes then it's not really comparable.
Both used brand new tim. my setup isnt ready for 100% water cooling as I am eaiting for the release of a reservoir from monsoon.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/19 23:14:40
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I am setting a goal to have that lapping machine testing by the end of the day
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/20 11:13:20
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/20 11:14:51
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Just in time as something has arrived in the mail: 
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/20 13:26:17
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A test with simple polishing compound:
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/20 14:46:03
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You're going to use it for waterblock lapping or cpu lapping too? Problem with cpu lapping being you'd need a fixture for every socket to be able to hold it properly.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/20 17:15:59
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Thats cool nateman. Need some video of it in action with something. Although I'm sure thats very near.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/20 18:08:42
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You're going to use it for waterblock lapping or cpu lapping too? Problem with cpu lapping being you'd need a fixture for every socket to be able to hold it properly.
Nope, I don't normally have people sending me CPU's to lap them. That video was simply a proof of concept that it could work. There are improvements that must be made for rigidity, and perhaps the rings need to be steel (or weighted down by steel)
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 05:02:43
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So I just ran Intel burn test with the EK Evo, reached around 60C. The Nateman block from last time reached 56-57. Still a 3C difference. Edit: this is was also with EK thermal brand paste. I'm sure with coollaboratory liquid metal it will be a bigger gap. Evo does perform better than its predecessors.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 10:10:26
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 16:26:59
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4790k. I thought a out using the 4670k as it is a much hotter cpu but decided not too because its not the blocks fault but rather the TIM.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 16:49:33
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Unless you delid, CLLP and CLLU won't help with temp enough to make the mess it will.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 18:49:37
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Unless you delid, CLLP and CLLU won't help with temp enough to make the mess it will.
i was going to use CLPro, but I dont feel like reapplying it 3 times. I dont have a workbench either. I am really thinking of buying caselabs s8 benchmark set and a z97 eatx to do tests. Eventually want to do product comparisons.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 19:00:46
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Using coolaboratory liquid pro between the ihs and waterblocks is going to be nasty to clean off. You don't want to do that, as it won't provide any better thermal conductivity without a delid. If you are wanting to delid, it should go between the core and ihs.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 20:31:56
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So I just ran Intel burn test with the EK Evo, reached around 60C. The Nateman block from last time reached 56-57. Still a 3C difference.
Edit: this is was also with EK thermal brand paste. I'm sure with coollaboratory liquid metal it will be a bigger gap. Evo does perform better than its predecessors.
So the project is still a "GO"?
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/03/28 20:55:18
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seta8967
So I just ran Intel burn test with the EK Evo, reached around 60C. The Nateman block from last time reached 56-57. Still a 3C difference.
Edit: this is was also with EK thermal brand paste. I'm sure with coollaboratory liquid metal it will be a bigger gap. Evo does perform better than its predecessors.
So the project is still a "GO"?
I would say yes, it is up to you. I just got back from another TDY (1 week home, 1 week TDY and repeat forever) so I feel lazy to exchange the blocks. You can wait and I will try the nateman block.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/04/11 13:13:43
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updates shortly (*ahem* I hope?)
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/04/11 15:05:12
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updates shortly (*ahem* I hope?)
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/04/11 15:21:25
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A prototype has been built. Currently out for testing. I could possibly make another prototype for you.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/04/11 21:42:16
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Just a quick picture of a functioning prototype:  and my 4 year old's scribbles.
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/04/12 01:47:15
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Very nice, the drawings that is.
So is it omnidirectional or one way?
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Re: Request for 2011-3 Nateman CPU Block.
2015/04/12 03:22:29
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