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2017/12/05 16:27:09 (permalink)
Hey,
 
The EVGA 560ti on my system that I use for regular use and games (not the latest ones) is failing.
 
I searched the available EVGA products and I like to know how the following ones compare to that 560ti card and how they compare between them in daily/gaming use.
 
1) EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 FTW GAMING, 06G-P4-6268-KR, 6GB GDDR5, ACX 3.0 & LED  06G-P4-6268-KR
2) EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 FTW2 DT GAMING, 06G-P4-6766-KR, 6GB GDDR5, iCX - 9 Thermal Sensors & LED G/P/M  06G-P4-6766-KR
3) EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING, 08G-P4-5170-KR, 8GB GDDR5  08G-P4-5170-KR
 
Any advise would be appreciated, thank you.
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/05 16:45:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/06 12:17:36
Numero uno: Need to be sure your motherboard (whatever it is) will support a card newer than something in a 600 series.
 
Sometimes a motherboard BIOS update is all that is needed and sometimes cards newer than 600 series just flat out won't work in some/older motherboards.
 

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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/05 16:50:45 (permalink)
It's an Asus P5Q3 Deluxe, bios 2105 with a Intel QX9770 (stock 3.2 GHZ).
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/05 17:09:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/06 09:54:34
You have the latest BIOS, good..According to this site, a P5Q3 Deluxe should work with cards up to the current 10 series.

As for recommendations on your list, I hate recommending stuff, especially graphics cards..But I'd roll with the GTX 1070 GAMING myself.

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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/05 19:43:32 (permalink)
a 1060 or even an 1070 may be a bit over kill with a QX9770 I would probably recommend getting a 1050ti but at most maybe a 1060
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/05 20:42:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/06 09:54:54
What resolution do you game at?
What is your budget?
Plans to upgrade the MB/CPU or monitor in the future?
Would you consider used hardware? There are GTX980Ti selling 250-300$
Seeing used 1070 for 350$
EVGA warranty transfers to 2nd hand owners with the guest RMA
I would thin the GTX1060 is a nice upgrade for you, not knowing your budget and all......
 
I always go by, buy the best you can afford at the time.
 
You can go to Toms hardware and look at the bang for the buck GPU reviews they do every month.
They do a bunch of testing different GPUs, different games and benchmarks with charts and opinions.
 
 

 
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 03:37:12 (permalink)
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You have the latest BIOS, good..According to this site, a P5Q3 Deluxe should work with cards up to the current 10 series.

As for recommendations on your list, I hate recommending stuff, especially graphics cards..But I'd roll with the GTX 1070 GAMING myself.





Thank you for your help, Bob!
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 03:41:14 (permalink)
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a 1060 or even an 1070 may be a bit over kill with a QX9770 I would probably recommend getting a 1050ti but at most maybe a 1060




Thank you Demon, I'm thinking as long as the rest of my system works for me; not to go with a strong\expensive graphics card because later down the road when I replace my old system that new card will probably be obsolete, then.
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 04:02:33 (permalink)
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What resolution do you game at?
What is your budget?
Plans to upgrade the MB/CPU or monitor in the future?
Would you consider used hardware? There are GTX980Ti selling 250-300$
Seeing used 1070 for 350$
EVGA warranty transfers to 2nd hand owners with the guest RMA
I would thin the GTX1060 is a nice upgrade for you, not knowing your budget and all......
 
I always go by, buy the best you can afford at the time.
 
You can go to Toms hardware and look at the bang for the buck GPU reviews they do every month.
They do a bunch of testing different GPUs, different games and benchmarks with charts and opinions.
 
 




Thank you for the help, Bill!
 
I game at 1920x1200


The budget for any of these 3 cards I listed is assured. I listed those because for the moment my system works for me for daily use and the games I play and only the 560ti card is faulty the rest works really good. I listed those cards because I want a card that's not less powerful than a 560ti but also a card that isn't really expensive or over the top because I think there's a fair chance that when I replace my system later that the card I'll buy now will be obsolete or not powerful enough anymore. So budget wise I can go for any of the three cards I listed and I also listed those  3 cards because they are available on the EVGA store.


I don't like refurbished or used hardware. I got a 9800GX2 SSC edition new that failed quickly (less than 2 years and I don't overclock or tamper with my graphics cards) and the refurbished card I got was also pretty fast gone.


I compared them on the EVGA site and it looks that between the two 1060 I listed there's not much difference but there's difference comparing them with the 1070 like the memory size and memory interface.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 06:11:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/06 09:55:11
On a side note, an Intel QX9770 is a Quad Core Extreme processor with an unlocked multiplier that was born to be overclocked..Running it at it's stock frequency of 3200MHz is nothing short of sacrilege.
 
The P5Q3 Deluxe is an enthusiast motherboard with many overclocking settings in the BIOS.
 
Safely taking a QX9770 to at least a reasonable 4000MHz should be a walk in the park..If you need help/advice on that, make a new thread in the Overclocking, Cooling and Benchmarking subsection of the forums and I'll see it..List all your hardware.
 
I'd grab the GTX 1070 GAMING just for the extra VRAM needed for many of todays game titles to run on max graphics settings/higher resolutions and overclock the QX9770..Overclock or not, I'd still grab the 1070 as a first choice, the GTX 1060 FTW second..Up to you.
 
 
 
 

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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 06:54:28 (permalink)
My vote would be for the 1070, that way if you do upgrade in the near future you already have a pretty potent card to carry you into your next build. Maybe :)
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 07:29:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/06 09:55:45

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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 08:31:32 (permalink)
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On a side note, an Intel QX9770 is a Quad Core Extreme processor with an unlocked multiplier that was born to be overclocked..Running it at it's stock frequency of 3200MHz is nothing short of sacrilege.
 
The P5Q3 Deluxe is an enthusiast motherboard with many overclocking settings in the BIOS.
 
Safely taking a QX9770 to at least a reasonable 4000MHz should be a walk in the park..If you need help/advice on that, make a new thread in the Overclocking, Cooling and Benchmarking subsection of the forums and I'll see it..List all your hardware.
 
I'd grab the GTX 1070 GAMING just for the extra VRAM needed for many of todays game titles to run on max graphics settings/higher resolutions and overclock the QX9770..Overclock or not, I'd still grab the 1070 as a first choice, the GTX 1060 FTW second..Up to you.
 
 
 
 





Thank you again and the thing is I know that both CPU and mobo are made for and can be OC'd. The snag is that not all people can do so by themselves and in safety (not making toasters of them). I have some hardware and software experience but OC is really out of my league so one of these days I certainly will make a thread in the OC section.


I'm thinking to go for the 1070 I listed as this is available on the EVGA store and it's not a Ti , SSC or SC. Speaking out of my own experiences I have the (wrong?) feeling that those graphics cards don't last as long as standard graphics cards.
 
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 08:33:19 (permalink)
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My vote would be for the 1070, that way if you do upgrade in the near future you already have a pretty potent card to carry you into your next build. Maybe :)




Thank you, Tech and the scales are tipping in favor of the 1070. :-)
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 08:38:02 (permalink)
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This may help compare potential performance:
 
futuremark GeForce GTX 560 Ti Review - score 3460

futuremark GTX 1060-6GB Review - score 12780 

futuremark GTX 1070 Review - score 18050  
 
 
 
 



Thank you, Cool for the informative links. Those new cards are quit something else than a 560 Ti.
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 08:52:29 (permalink)
If you don't see your self upgrading for a while a 1060 now and a 3060 2160 or what ever they have by the time you upgrade may be a good path. But I'd you want to splurge now
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 09:08:22 (permalink)
Now that's a bummer: the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING, 08G-P4-5170-KR, 8GB GDDR5 that yesterday was in stock is now out of stock on the EVGA store.
 
This one is in stock: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6571-KR but is has another lay-out on first sight, two fans instead of one.
post edited by dromerke - 2017/12/06 09:23:39
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 09:17:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/06 12:11:47
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Now that's a bummer: the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING, 08G-P4-5170-KR, 8GB GDDR5 that yesterday was in stock is now out of stock on the EVGA store.
if your set on a 1070 Newegg also carries EVGA cards but if your case has good air flow a card like this will be nice https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814487265
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 09:35:38 (permalink)
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dromerke
Now that's a bummer: the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING, 08G-P4-5170-KR, 8GB GDDR5 that yesterday was in stock is now out of stock on the EVGA store.
if your set on a 1070 Newegg also carries EVGA cards but if your case has good air flow a card like this will be nice https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814487265



 
Thank you and sorry because I forgot I was looking on the EVGA US store and they still have the https://eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5170-KR on the European store. :-)
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 12:24:26 (permalink)
Thank you all for the help! :-)


I have follow up questions:


Can I just swap the old card in my pc for the new one and then start up?


Or do I have to remove my Nvidia whql drivers, shut down, swap the cards, start up and install the latest Nvdia whql drivers and then their legacy drivers?
 
Also the card I'll buy is delivered with a psu Y cable and I get that the 8 pin goes in the graphics card but do I have to connect both six pins to the psu or just one?
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 12:29:33 (permalink)
Use display driver uninstaller in safe mode and do a clean and shut down. Then remove the old card &install the new one. I am at work currently,but I am sure Sanji has his ddu steps link handy. If he doesn't pop in here I will find it for you when I get home
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 12:37:30 (permalink)
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Use display driver uninstaller in safe mode and do a clean and shut down. Then remove the old card &install the new one. I am at work currently,but I am sure Sanji has his ddu steps link handy. If he doesn't pop in here I will find it for you when I get home



Thank you! I'll search that program up because I only have DriverCleaner.Net but that program might be too old for this.
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 15:20:19 (permalink)
Just a heads up, now that the Christmas season is upon us, EVGA might do their 12 days of Xmas specials, where everyday they have something special on sale.  So if you are in a market for a card, I would suggest if you can wait, to wait and see if one shows up during the 12 days.  If not, there is always boxing day/week.  Unless that only happens in Canada.

 

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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/06 15:56:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/07 04:21:36
Yes, you must connect both (all) power connectors on the GPU card
 
 
DDU
 
Make sure after you shut down your PC, you remove the power cord - then hold start button 20 seconds to discharge any capacitors, before removing or installing any thing - or you could damage your MB or card.
 
Touch the case before anything else, better to use a ground strap
 
You may know better, but someone else reading this thread may not
 
Steps I use:
 
PC offline - pull the network
 
All background software stopped, including security software (that's why offline)
 
Remove GPU OC software, Remove any leftover files from this folder --> Program Files (X86), then reboot
 
DDU in Safe Mode old driver, with reboot - driver update /  without reboot - if your changing GPUs
 
Install Nvidia driver, Advanced mode, Only graphics driver & PhysX, clean install, reboot
 
Reinstalled GPU OC software - clean install, reboot
 
With a big change in GPU you may have to adjust your MB / CPU overclock, confirm stability

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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/07 04:29:16 (permalink)
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Yes, you must connect both (all) power connectors on the GPU card
 
 
DDU
 
Make sure after you shut down your PC, you remove the power cord - then hold start button 20 seconds to discharge any capacitors, before removing or installing any thing - or you could damage your MB or card.
 
Touch the case before anything else, better to use a ground strap
 
You may know better, but someone else reading this thread may not
 
Steps I use:

PC offline - pull the network

All background software stopped, including security software (that's why offline)

Remove GPU OC software, Remove any leftover files from this folder --> Program Files (X86), then reboot

DDU in Safe Mode old driver, with reboot - driver update /  without reboot - if your changing GPUs

Install Nvidia driver, Advanced mode, Only graphics driver & PhysX, clean install, reboot

Reinstalled GPU OC software - clean install, reboot
 
With a big change in GPU you may have to adjust your MB / CPU overclock, confirm stability




Thank you again, Cool. I printed this out and it will be helpful because it's from 2011 ago I needed to replace a graphics card.
 
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/07 04:58:22 (permalink)
Thank you all again!
 
I just ordered an EVGA 08G-P4-5170-KR GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING, 08G-P4-5170-KR, 8GB GDDR5.
 
To replace my 560Ti that was faulty and now is a dodo and so dead.
 
To write and see this I'm now using an EVGA 710GT that I got to use from my bro. While this card does work it's traumatic to play games with unless they are pixel games and classic games. :-)
 
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/07 06:04:07 (permalink)
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/07 07:11:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dromerke 2017/12/07 07:21:10
Happy to Help
 
GTX 1070 GAMING Very Nice - Game On
 
 
Just for fun,
 
Go to this link and input your 560Ti serial number, unless you had registered your card originally and can check warranty status in your online account
 
https://www.evga.com/support/guestregister.asp
 
Some older hardware had "extended warranty" - (no promises but you could check it, though your best bet would be - if you had registered when New)
 
If you had registered your hardware, go to:  Top of page --> "Member" drop-down --> "My EVGA" --> "My Products"

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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/07 07:14:58 (permalink)
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Enjoy that massive upgrade! We're here for any other questions you have when she hits!



Thank you, AHowes! :-)
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Re: Replacement advise for 560ti 2017/12/07 07:20:22 (permalink)
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Happy to Help
 
Just for fun,
 
 
Go to this link and input your 560Ti serial number, unless you had registered your card originally and can check warranty status in your online account
 
https://www.evga.com/support/guestregister.asp
 
Some older hardware had "extended warranty" - (no promises but you could check it)
 
If you had registered your hardware, go to:  Top of page --> "Member" drop-down --> "My EVGA" --> "My Products"


 
Thank you again, Cool and I didn't think of that (I do have the original card and it's original packaging, not sure about any other content like cables, manuals, cd-roms)
 
I think it's still in warranty but would they still have refurbished 560Ti cards to replace my dead card?
 
Info found through your directions:
 
Date Registered: 5/8/2011 12:35:24 AM

 
Warranty Information:
This product carries a ten (10) year limited warranty from your purchased date.
 
Warranty Period: Extended Warranty 10 Years
Warranty Start On: 5/8/2011 12:35:24 AM
Price Paid: 0
Purchased On: 5/8/2011 12:35:24 AM
Return Merchandise Authorization (RMA)
Start New RMA at http://eu.evga.com 
Step-Up Information:
The EVGA Step-Up allows you to upgrade your product within 90 days of your original purchase date. For details, look over our Step-Up section under Support.
This product is not available for Step-Up, past 90 day window (Ended:8/3/2011)
 
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