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2019/12/02 14:37:30 (permalink)
What does it mean when the three red LEDS above the power connectors come on?  The PC boots, but I have no display.
 
This appears to happen randomly, but generally during restart after changing BIOS profiles.

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/02 20:34:14 (permalink)
    See 2080 3 Red LEDs in the threads here and here..You can always Contact EVGA Customer Service and find out..There could be different causes, I guess.

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/03 15:02:13 (permalink)
    OK, thanks, but those threads really provide no concrete answers.
     
    I thought about the possibility of PSU issue, but why does it happen most noticeably when restarting after switching BIOS or BIOS profile, but only very occasionally? If it were a PSU issue, it should happen more often, I would believe.

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/03 15:54:36 (permalink)
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    OK, thanks, but those threads really provide no concrete answers.
     
    I thought about the possibility of PSU issue, but why does it happen most noticeably when restarting after switching BIOS or BIOS profile, but only very occasionally? If it were a PSU issue, it should happen more often, I would believe.



    You mean why does something happen intermittently when you do something intermittently? Why would you believe a PSU would cause it to happen more often? If the PSU is mariginal in supplying some voltage, sometimes you boot, sometimes ya don't. Maybe a hair dryer in another room has lowered the supply voltage to the outlet a fraction. My voltage coming to my mains varies during the day from 117 to 121v.  Back to troubleshooting. Do you have another system or a PSU you could use for testing? The PSU does not need to be able to handle the full system load, it just needs to be able to reliably power the system to boot. Have you reseated both the GPU and all power connectors to the board, PSU and peripheral devices?

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/03 18:54:40 (permalink)
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    OK, thanks, but those threads really provide no concrete answers.
     
    I thought about the possibility of PSU issue, but why does it happen most noticeably when restarting after switching BIOS or BIOS profile, but only very occasionally? If it were a PSU issue, it should happen more often, I would believe.




    BIOS Power Management -->> ErP "ON"
     
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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/04 14:48:56 (permalink)
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    OK, thanks, but those threads really provide no concrete answers.
     
    I thought about the possibility of PSU issue, but why does it happen most noticeably when restarting after switching BIOS or BIOS profile, but only very occasionally? If it were a PSU issue, it should happen more often, I would believe.



    You mean why does something happen intermittently when you do something intermittently? Why would you believe a PSU would cause it to happen more often? If the PSU is mariginal in supplying some voltage, sometimes you boot, sometimes ya don't. Maybe a hair dryer in another room has lowered the supply voltage to the outlet a fraction. My voltage coming to my mains varies during the day from 117 to 121v.  Back to troubleshooting. Do you have another system or a PSU you could use for testing? The PSU does not need to be able to handle the full system load, it just needs to be able to reliably power the system to boot. Have you reseated both the GPU and all power connectors to the board, PSU and peripheral devices?




    Never said it was the PSU, only that since it appeared to possibly be a power issue, that perhaps it might be a possibility.
     
    I ran a dedicated 20A circuit to my rig (PC, monitor, printer) and I have an APC UPS with AVR that maintains a consistent voltage, other than that, nothing else on the circuit.
     
    I can try re-seating. The thing is, I have not seen an actual pattern to when the red LEDs appear, only that I noticed that it seems to happen during restart when switching BIOS profiles, and even then, maybe once in fifty(?) restarts.
     
    I have three other PSUs, two are installed in other PCs, that I could try, but that is more trouble than I want to go thru at the moment. Perhaps if I see other indications of PSU trouble in the future...
     
    So, other than power or loose connection issues, what else might cause the red LEDs? Not a marginal video card? Not a motherboard problem?

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/04 14:52:52 (permalink)
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    kelkel1
    OK, thanks, but those threads really provide no concrete answers.
     
    I thought about the possibility of PSU issue, but why does it happen most noticeably when restarting after switching BIOS or BIOS profile, but only very occasionally? If it were a PSU issue, it should happen more often, I would believe.




    BIOS Power Management -->> ErP "ON"
     




    ERP - A European Union Standard for energy efficiency. Default is OFF.
     
    What is that supposed to do?

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/04 17:26:11 (permalink)

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/05 01:58:47 (permalink)
    Might also want to test it without the UPS if the ERP doesn't fan out.

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/05 13:32:58 (permalink)
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    Read this thread... https://forums.evga.com/L...tra-bios-m3000849.aspx



    In that thread you stated "When ErP is enabled it prevents certain things like keyboards, mice, usb ports, etc from being activated when the pc is turned off in order to save energy when your PC is off."
     
    To my knowledge, those items never activate while the PC is off anyway, but if you could suggest a method to test it, I would be willing to try it.
     
    Even so, in what way would that resolve the red LEDs?

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/05 13:34:45 (permalink)
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    Might also want to test it without the UPS if the ERP doesn't fan out.




    What effect does the UPS have on the GPU??

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/05 14:40:56 (permalink)
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    Read this thread... https://forums.evga.com/L...tra-bios-m3000849.aspx



    In that thread you stated "When ErP is enabled it prevents certain things like keyboards, mice, usb ports, etc from being activated when the pc is turned off in order to save energy when your PC is off."
     
    To my knowledge, those items never activate while the PC is off anyway, but if you could suggest a method to test it, I would be willing to try it.
     
    Even so, in what way would that resolve the red LEDs?




    When erp is enabled it keeps a very low amount of power to certain components instead of letting them totally drain, in some cases that low amount of power makes a difference in boot up with certain devices.

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/05 17:20:44 (permalink)
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    Read this thread... https://forums.evga.com/L...tra-bios-m3000849.aspx



    In that thread you stated "When ErP is enabled it prevents certain things like keyboards, mice, usb ports, etc from being activated when the pc is turned off in order to save energy when your PC is off."
     
    To my knowledge, those items never activate while the PC is off anyway, but if you could suggest a method to test it, I would be willing to try it.
     
    Even so, in what way would that resolve the red LEDs?




    When erp is enabled it keeps a very low amount of power to certain components instead of letting them totally drain, in some cases that low amount of power makes a difference in boot up with certain devices.




    I see, and that happens when switching BIOS profiles?

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/05 17:43:05 (permalink)
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    Read this thread... https://forums.evga.com/L...tra-bios-m3000849.aspx



    In that thread you stated "When ErP is enabled it prevents certain things like keyboards, mice, usb ports, etc from being activated when the pc is turned off in order to save energy when your PC is off."
     
    To my knowledge, those items never activate while the PC is off anyway, but if you could suggest a method to test it, I would be willing to try it.
     
    Even so, in what way would that resolve the red LEDs?




    When erp is enabled it keeps a very low amount of power to certain components instead of letting them totally drain, in some cases that low amount of power makes a difference in boot up with certain devices.




    I see, and that happens when switching BIOS profiles?




    If you have different bios profiles in your motherboard it would need to be enabled or disabled in each profile however you want it to be set. Not saying thats going to fix your issue but in some cases it has. Only you will know if and when you try it if that helps or not. So many different components out there what works for one system might not work for the next.

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/06 00:54:50 (permalink)
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    Might also want to test it without the UPS if the ERP doesn't fan out.




    What effect does the UPS have on the GPU??


     
    When troubleshooting its always best to start with the basics when there's a boat load of things going on.  It could literally be anything.  One user found out by removing their UPS their issues went away but that was just one case but it doesn't hurt to try the same.

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    When erp is enabled it keeps a very low amount of power to certain components instead of letting them totally drain, in some cases that low amount of power makes a difference in boot up with certain devices.




    That is correct hence why I have mine enabled otherwise my Aquaero 6 XT controller in my single bay in front of the case is still being powered while everything else is off.  It has a nice bright display on it so you can imagine while trying to go to sleep. lol  Both the controller's display and my external RGB strips behind my screens would be left powered up via USB 5v.  Without it enabled all of those would still be on.
     

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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/06 11:42:39 (permalink)
    This LED thing happens to me every time I loose power (no UPS) or if I power off the power supply it's self.
    From a complete power off the red LED's come on and it take a couple of reboots before they go off. If I just power off the PC there is still some power left on, MB LED's and the USB's still power my phone and keep it charged and next power on the red LED's are off.
    Go Figure...
     
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    Re: Red LEDS? 2019/12/06 13:05:20 (permalink)
    To the best of my recollection, the red LEDs only appear (and quite infrequently) when the PC powers off and back on after switching BIOS profiles. Turning off the PSU switch or leaving the PC off for an extended (+12 hours) amount of time does not cause the LEDs to light.
     
    Back to the ERP; if I understand how it works, it removes all power to the motherboard and anything plugged into any port or expansion slot on the motherboard, correct?

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