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2021/02/24 23:43:51 (permalink)
 
I have been wanting to upgrade my UPS for a while now and as it's 14 years old I'd like to find a high quality one that would be perfect for a 30xx upgrade.   Tower version as I have a special spot for it in my desk setup.  Thanks.
 
Edit: I might add I tend to be brand loyal based on my history with a brand name that has built trust in me, my current brand is APC, but if there are better ones I'd rather it be quality stuff for a 3080.

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 00:10:20 (permalink)
    I stopped buying APC after 3 units died in our house in the span of a few months... we have sketchy electric out here so we have battery backups on everything important, having units die in rapid succession was a non-starter for that brand ever getting used again.
     
    https://smile.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1500AVRLCD-Intelligent-Outlets-Mini-Tower/dp/B000FBK3QK/ (Amazon Smile link cuz I always support the doggos through ASPCA) is what I'm using now, if I could buy it again I would (but I'd buy the next step up in wattage), no issues & I've been running on it for several years, handles my loads just fine despite "only" being a "900W" unit.
    I've owned Belkin & Cyberpower units the last decade plus, only had one go out on us and that was during a really bad electrical storm, it basically got fried through a surge, protected all the hardware that was on it so it did it's job.
     
    I'm sure everyone has their preferences etc on backups though, if a brand treats you well, you get loyal to it & stick with that.
     
     

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 00:27:59 (permalink)
    I use a few BX1500M in my house, and I use one for my 64 Core Threadripper and 3090.

    Recommend.


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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 02:10:22 (permalink)
    +1 for the Cyberpower units. I use CP1500PFCLCD since it's a 1500va 1000w unit with front charging ports. I have 3 of these are they work great.
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 03:32:13 (permalink)
    I have the same Cyberpower CP1500PFCLCD and it rocks!  So another +1 for that series/model.
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 04:39:28 (permalink)
    I also have the CP1500PFCLCD which has my computer with a 3080 ftw3 Ultra as well as my NAS, Cable modem and router plugged into it. It has worked perfectly the few times we have lost power.
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 04:44:51 (permalink)
    I have a cyberpower 1500 as well for 10 years.  just replaced the batteries in it now it has better run time then the original since used a bit bigger batteries in it 

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 05:46:13 (permalink)
     
    Wow looks like Cyberpower seems to be the modern enthusiast choice.  Thanks for the suggestions, time to do some research on the different models.

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 07:27:46 (permalink)
    I have had many brands between work and home. I finally settled on Eaton whenever possible. Compared to the other brands, our eatons just didn't die. The kicker that sold me on eaton. An anchient one running an avaya phone system that was still good when the site finally upgraded from a PBX to VOIP.
     
    After replacing and rebuilding battery packs on APCs what seemed like yearly in most instances, having multiple board issues with Tripp lite, and loads of failures of cyber powers at users desks, the eatons all just chugged on with zero f's given. After 5 years, ready for replacement, every single one still showed a good battery, no errors, and minimal battery runtime loss.
     
    I assume however you want more a home gamer model. I don't know if the quality transfers to the home models. I was going to replace my main gaming computer one, but Colorado and a few other states adopted some BS rules and now I cant get an eaton here legally.
     
     

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 07:36:23 (permalink)
     
     
    I also have a CYBERPOWER unit.. highly recommend their 1500 VA

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 11:08:00 (permalink)
    I also have the CP1500PFCLCD and it is fantastic.  Just make sure you register your product so that if anything goes wrong you are 100% covered, as long as you're willing to pay the shipping costs haha.

     

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 15:14:27 (permalink)
    Had one fancy Cyberpower PFC unit that died within 2 years, never again.  Trust APC UPS keep on going and going - I had 2 BX1300LCDs that went thru many battery changes (got them for Circuit City closing) and are still functional but I left some cheap replacement batteries in too long and they started leaking so the contacts got corroded.  Replacement are 2 BX1500M units, also have a BX1000M that's a few years old now and a Back-UPS ES that's even older than the 2 BX1300LCDs.
     
    I suspect that PFC units don't deal well with bad power, so I'll never buy another PFC UPS.  Just get a simulated sine wave unit and let your power supply do the rest.
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/25 15:18:36 (permalink)
    If you have a Costco around, they sell a couple of Cyberpower ones at good prices. I got one and its been great with my 1000w power supply.
     
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    https://www.costco.com/cyberpower-1500va--900watts-simulated-sine-wave-ups-with-greenpower-technology.product.100277321.html
     
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/26 03:56:39 (permalink)

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/26 05:40:26 (permalink)
    I'm running 3 of those CyberPower's for about 8 years now, the batteries seem to go every 3-4 years if I remember. Think we really need a new generation of battery backups as most of the mainstream choices are close to a decade old if not older. You can get lithium jump-starters now that aren't much bigger than a large Anker battery pack and can provide 20 starts even for big trucks. Not apples to apples but those things used to be the size of a small backpack.
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/26 08:01:44 (permalink)
    Keep in mind most UPS just pass though filtered and occasionally AVR buck/boosted AC when they aren't running off battery.  So unless your power is normally total garbage or you like benchmarking during a tornado, the typical line interactive UPS of modest size is just fine.  Simulated sine wave is overrated.  I've been fine with this unit:
     
    https://www.bhphotovideo....lcd_120v.html/overview
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/26 19:02:06 (permalink)
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    Keep in mind most UPS just pass though filtered and occasionally AVR buck/boosted AC when they aren't running off battery.  So unless your power is normally total garbage or you like benchmarking during a tornado, the typical line interactive UPS of modest size is just fine.  Simulated sine wave is overrated.  I've been fine with this unit:
     
    https://www.bhphotovideo....lcd_120v.html/overview




    Well there's also the "Oh no the power is out but I can still surf the net for 2 hours or play a game for 45 mins" thing ;)
     
    How long have you had yours?

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/26 20:16:51 (permalink)
    kevinc313
    ...Simulated sine wave is overrated.  I've been fine with this unit:
     
    https://www.bhphotovideo....lcd_120v.html/overview




    This will depend on what your power supply is (how modern) and whether it has PFC (Power Factor Correction) built-in.  When I helped my brother-in-law at his work replace his old Dell server with a Supermicro I thought everything was fine with the line interactive UPS and did not recommend that he replace it.  However during a future power outage (while I was there) the server unexpectedly just shut off when the power failed.  So there is some truth that a sine wave UPS is better--but whether this actually matters for your system is debateable.  However for a little more you can get a better UPS if you're already spending money on a 3080 the difference is minimal.

    I've run APC's sinewave UPSs for many years and I currently have the CP1500PFCLCD as well; they've all worked great for me.
     
    For the Supermicro server I had him get a true online sinewave UPS.  Overkill for home use and it will generate unwanted RFI--but I shouldn't have to fix his server now.  :)
     
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/02/28 08:08:20 (permalink)
    I'd strongly recommend the Cyberpower UPS. Personally I use the CP1500PFCLCD because it's a true sinewave model and those are better for the electronics it powers, and supposedly also the batts. I bought mine in 2012 and have only replaced the batteries once. The batts still last ~5 minutes if I idle the system, which is plenty of time to shut down my NAS. 
     
    I've owned three APC units before it, but the quality got progressively worse and so did the battery lifespan. My current APC is a BR1500LCD and every set of batteries ever put in it always were 100% dead within three years. I have not used one of those new pure sinewave APC units, but I have no plans to given Cyberpower sells a better product and has been doing so for a decade now.
     
    Cyberpower also offers some interactive system control software that does more than just send a shut down to the PC. Users can configure the Input Voltage Sensitivity, the voltage min/max thresholds before the unit kicks off line power, run self-tests, and check current runtime levels based on battery health. It also tracks lifelong record of energy usage and will calculate cost if you input the utility rate. The only thing Cyberpower could improve is if it calculated a variable power rate based on time of day, which is what most of Texas uses. 


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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/03/02 09:26:21 (permalink)
    I've got the CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave and have had a few power flickers while playing. It didn't cause any issues. The only way I knew we had a power flicker is the click as the battery switches over and click when it flips back.
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/03/02 09:31:12 (permalink)
    three of these in my house: CP1500PFCLCD
     
     




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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/03/02 09:47:24 (permalink)
     
    I just went with a second cyberpower unit.. this one with the sinewave.. since I want to run my second rig at the same time as my primary..
     
    Cyberpower = best solution in my opinion

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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/03/02 09:57:12 (permalink)
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    Keep in mind most UPS just pass though filtered and occasionally AVR buck/boosted AC when they aren't running off battery.  So unless your power is normally total garbage or you like benchmarking during a tornado, the typical line interactive UPS of modest size is just fine.  Simulated sine wave is overrated.  I've been fine with this unit:
     
    https://www.bhphotovideo....lcd_120v.html/overview




    Well there's also the "Oh no the power is out but I can still surf the net for 2 hours or play a game for 45 mins" thing ;)
     
    How long have you had yours?




    About 2 years.  It's spent about 5 minutes actually powering the PC off battery.  Otherwise it just acts as a power conditioner.  I paid about $120 for it at the time.
     
    I can't stress enough that all these consumer grade UPS just pass through filtered wall power 99.99% of the time and you can test if your stuff will work on it by simply unplugging it.  If I lose power I just shut down the PC and use it as a phone charger etc.  Sending your PC square wave power when it's at idle isn't going to harm it.  "Simulated Sinewave" is really just a placebo marketing ploy, there is still tons of stepping RFI/EMI hash in it.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/03/02 10:12:46
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/03/03 09:50:44 (permalink)
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    Re: Recommended UPS to upgrade to for a 30xx card 2021/03/03 10:39:20 (permalink)
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    FYI.
     
     


    staples has a coupon 60600 $25 off $150 + online order, just got a CP1500AVRLCD for $129.99 next day shipping.
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