EVGA

RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C

Author
Programming4life
New Member
  • Total Posts : 10
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 0
2020/12/04 21:49:10 (permalink)
Hi everyone, i just got a EVGA 3090 XC3 Ultra today. After using it I noticed the card was very loud. I checked the temps while gaming under full load the temp was ~81C and the card was LOUD. Also my card idles at 60C I have no idea as to why. I removed the case side panel just in case it needs more air flow, but it made no difference. Anyone go idea as to why the temps are so high?
Just to test I set the card fans to 100% the lowest I could get the temp was ~75C, but the card sounds like a jet.
 
I used to run a EVGA 1080ti FTW3 in this same system max temps I ever got were ~65-70C and the card was really quiet.
 
My cpu is water cooled.
My case is thermaltake core x71.
#1

22 Replies Related Threads

    Sajin
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 49165
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
    • Location: Texas, USA.
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 199
    bmgjet
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 289
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2015/06/26 06:14:07
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 9
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 21:56:29 (permalink)
    Thats too hot, It probably has a bad thermal compound job on it for it to be idling at 60C.
    Replacing the thermal compound isnt very straight forward either since removing the cooler will destroy the thermal putty thats used on the VRM since its single use and turns to dust if contact is broken. As well as having high chance of ripping the thermal pads on the Vram.

    RMA will be the easiest option. But if you do have access to new thermal pads and a tube of thermal putty you can redo it yourself.
    #3
    SeanDude05
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 173
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/04/04 20:25:41
    • Location: USA
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 2
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:00:10 (permalink)
    Sajin
    https://forums.evga.com/Stuck-at-MAX-GPU-Mem-clock-at-Windows-desktop-idle-m3096373.aspx


    OP, definately check this.
     
    Have you installed the latest PX1? Fresh install latest nvidia drivers? Check power setting in NV Control Panel is set to Adaptive, as Prefer Max Perf is known to cause clocks to get stuck at boost.


    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + Hybrid Kit
    #4
    bmgjet
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 289
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2015/06/26 06:14:07
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 9
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:01:07 (permalink)
    As you can see on mine it destroyed one of the vram pads. And the thermal putty is just dust on the VRM.

    Attached Image(s)

    #5
    Programming4life
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 10
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:06:39 (permalink)
    Sajin


    My idle looks are ~500 Mhz
    #6
    Sajin
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 49165
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
    • Location: Texas, USA.
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 199
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:08:57 (permalink)
    Programming4life
    Sajin


    My idle looks are ~500 Mhz

    Probably need to check your thermal paste then. Are all the fans on the gpu spinning?
    #7
    Programming4life
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 10
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:16:01 (permalink)
    bmgjet
    Thats too hot, It probably has a bad thermal compound job on it for it to be idling at 60C.
    Replacing the thermal compound isnt very straight forward either since removing the cooler will destroy the thermal putty thats used on the VRM since its single use and turns to dust if contact is broken. As well as having high chance of ripping the thermal pads on the Vram.

    RMA will be the easiest option. But if you do have access to new thermal pads and a tube of thermal putty you can redo it yourself.


    I'm fine doing it my self but where do I get more pads and the putty from? Does this not void warranty?
    #8
    Programming4life
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 10
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:17:08 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Programming4life
    Sajin


    My idle looks are ~500 Mhz

    Probably need to check your thermal paste then. Are all the fans on the gpu spinning?

    lol they never stop spinning.
    #9
    Programming4life
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 10
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:19:00 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Programming4life
    Sajin


    My idle looks are ~500 Mhz

    Probably need to check your thermal paste then. Are all the fans on the gpu spinning?

    Does this not void warranty?
    #10
    sparetimepc
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2413
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/11/13 09:24:09
    • Location: Altona, IL
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 27
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:26:02 (permalink)
    No replacement of thermal pads and or paste does not void warranty




    #11
    Sajin
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 49165
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
    • Location: Texas, USA.
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 199
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:30:50 (permalink)
    sparetimepc
    No replacement of thermal pads and or paste does not void warranty

    +1
    #12
    bmgjet
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 289
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2015/06/26 06:14:07
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 9
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 22:58:11 (permalink)
    Programming4life
    I'm fine doing it my self but where do I get more pads and the putty from? Does this not void warranty?


    From ebay, I keep it on stock anyway since I do a lot of electronic repaires so have a wide range of pads and tubes of putty and paste.

    Just some tips if your pulling it apart.
    Unplug the 3 fan headers first, Youll need to use a small flat head screw driver to lift up on them while you press the latches with your fingers. Dont pull on the wires or they will rip out.
    Undo all the back plate screws next. You can just use your fingers on the nuts to hold them in place by the IO bracket.
    Slowly and gently twist and lift to remove the backplate and you should be able to remove it with out damaging the rear vram pads.
    Also while your there you could replace those pads anyway with some better ones since every card iv seen has had a bad placement job on those.

    Now on to the X-clamp. You want to keep pressure on it with your finger when your undoing it. Since if you dont then it will rip the last few threads off the screw with the pressure it has.
    It helps to undo them a little bit at a time in a cross pattern.
    Just take your time seperating the cooler from the PCB. The thermal pads and putty will have it stuck together quite well so a long constant pressure is needed to break the seal.
    Once the cooler seperate you have enough free wire to access the single fan header by the 2X 8pin power plugs

    Take some pictures once its apart and show us what the thermal compound job was like on it.

    You dont have to worry about mixing the screws up since the X-clamp ones are stuck in the x-clamp with circlips.
    And the only 2 longer screws go into the nuts that connect to the IO bracket.

    Cleaning up for me I just use a wooden tooth pick to scrap all the dusty old thermal putty off it. then IPA and cotton swabs to clean the chip.
    Probably do a light test fit with replacement pads to make sure everything still has contact, And dont forget to plug all the fans back in since they are a pain to reach if you screw everything together first. Do the same as removal of the X-Clamp when doing it back up. Youll need a decent ammount of pressure to get it started other wise it just rips the threads out.
    Dont over tighten it since the screws can snap easily and its game over.
    Start all the back plate screws before you tighten them down since some wont line up easily and becareful not to cross thread them

    Then when testing the card make sure to check GPU-Z if you get a perf-cap of THERM then it means the VRM or VRAM is getting to hot and you missed a thermal pad.
    #13
    dmisiur
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 100
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2020/11/06 06:38:59
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/04 23:08:50 (permalink)
    I wouldn’t mess with a brand new card at this price range.
    #14
    Programming4life
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 10
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/05 00:29:49 (permalink)
    Not the first time I've taken apart an expensive GPU. I plan on water cooling this GPU anyway so I'll have to take it apart at some point.
    #15
    Programming4life
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 10
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/05 00:31:47 (permalink)
    bmgjet
    Programming4life
    I'm fine doing it my self but where do I get more pads and the putty from? Does this not void warranty?


    From ebay, I keep it on stock anyway since I do a lot of electronic repaires so have a wide range of pads and tubes of putty and paste.

    Just some tips if your pulling it apart.
    Unplug the 3 fan headers first, Youll need to use a small flat head screw driver to lift up on them while you press the latches with your fingers. Dont pull on the wires or they will rip out.
    Undo all the back plate screws next. You can just use your fingers on the nuts to hold them in place by the IO bracket.
    Slowly and gently twist and lift to remove the backplate and you should be able to remove it with out damaging the rear vram pads.
    Also while your there you could replace those pads anyway with some better ones since every card iv seen has had a bad placement job on those.

    Now on to the X-clamp. You want to keep pressure on it with your finger when your undoing it. Since if you dont then it will rip the last few threads off the screw with the pressure it has.
    It helps to undo them a little bit at a time in a cross pattern.
    Just take your time seperating the cooler from the PCB. The thermal pads and putty will have it stuck together quite well so a long constant pressure is needed to break the seal.
    Once the cooler seperate you have enough free wire to access the single fan header by the 2X 8pin power plugs

    Take some pictures once its apart and show us what the thermal compound job was like on it.

    You dont have to worry about mixing the screws up since the X-clamp ones are stuck in the x-clamp with circlips.
    And the only 2 longer screws go into the nuts that connect to the IO bracket.

    Cleaning up for me I just use a wooden tooth pick to scrap all the dusty old thermal putty off it. then IPA and cotton swabs to clean the chip.
    Probably do a light test fit with replacement pads to make sure everything still has contact, And dont forget to plug all the fans back in since they are a pain to reach if you screw everything together first. Do the same as removal of the X-Clamp when doing it back up. Youll need a decent ammount of pressure to get it started other wise it just rips the threads out.
    Dont over tighten it since the screws can snap easily and its game over.
    Start all the back plate screws before you tighten them down since some wont line up easily and becareful not to cross thread them

    Then when testing the card make sure to check GPU-Z if you get a perf-cap of THERM then it means the VRM or VRAM is getting to hot and you missed a thermal pad.


    Thanks for the tips. I've also taken a look at teardowns already. I'll just have to get my hands on the putty stuff. But maybe RMA or asking EVGA for help would be faster instead idk.
    #16
    bmgjet
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 289
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2015/06/26 06:14:07
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 9
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/05 00:37:39 (permalink)
    Good luck with find a good waterblock.
    I got the EK XC3 waterblock which had teriable contact before modding the stand offs on it to move the contact patch into the center of the die.
    Then once you get it working well its a bit of a waste on a XC3 since on the stock bios youll only get 366W, With the best 2 plug bios being the KFA2 390W bios, Card wont even get hot at that power level and just sits on power limited 100% of the time in games.
    I had to shunt mod my card to get the most out of it.
     

    Attached Image(s)

    #17
    Programming4life
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 10
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2017/08/17 12:49:11
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/05 22:47:05 (permalink)
    bmgjet
    Good luck with find a good waterblock.
    I got the EK XC3 waterblock which had teriable contact before modding the stand offs on it to move the contact patch into the center of the die.
    Then once you get it working well its a bit of a waste on a XC3 since on the stock bios youll only get 366W, With the best 2 plug bios being the KFA2 390W bios, Card wont even get hot at that power level and just sits on power limited 100% of the time in games.
    I had to shunt mod my card to get the most out of it.
     



    I'll see what happens I may just wait for a never water block rev. I also plan on shunt modding. Can you like me to the BIOS your using?
    Thanks for the images!
    #18
    bmgjet
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 289
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2015/06/26 06:14:07
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 9
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2020/12/06 05:36:51 (permalink)
    KFA 390W Bios.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/226727/226727

    Then you can look forward to this sort of performance.
    https://www.3dmark.com/pr/603930
    #19
    mrrsingh
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 2
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2021/07/16 08:15:17
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2021/08/11 11:50:03 (permalink)
    My unit idles at around 56. But while playing games VRM temp goes upto 108 that worries me if it has anything to do with thermal pads.
    post edited by mrrsingh - 2021/08/11 11:55:30
    #20
    kevinc313
    CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
    • Total Posts : 5004
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2019/02/28 09:27:55
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 22
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2021/08/11 19:03:39 (permalink)
    mrrsingh
    My unit idles at around 56. But while playing games VRM temp goes upto 108 that worries me if it has anything to do with thermal pads.



    Nah just poor case venting and not enough or fast enough fans.  Yeah you'll get better temps with a pad upgrade but I'd personally start with the case.
    #21
    speedysloth
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 132
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2021/06/09 18:23:46
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2021/08/11 19:43:18 (permalink)
    mrrsingh
    My unit idles at around 56. But while playing games VRM temp goes upto 108 that worries me if it has anything to do with thermal pads.

     
    Are the fans turned off until the card reaches 60 degrees? If yes, then that could explain the higher idle temperature. Naturally you're gonna need some form of airflow to reduce the temperature, even at idle.
    #22
    alexleo
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 5
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2021/08/25 07:24:59
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra idling at 60C 2021/08/25 07:54:30 (permalink)
    Do you have the thickness measurement for the thermal pad?
    #23
    Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile