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2021/09/26 16:25:55 (permalink)
I was playing starwars battlefront 2 and i noticed the game was laggy from the get go. 30 minutes later my pc turns black, and it shuts off. Before this i had a 3090 FE on the pc, so I know it's the gpu.
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    kevinc313
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 16:52:05 (permalink)
    Now......did the screen turn black for a few seconds and did the fans run at full speed, then the shut down?  Or did the whole machine shut off at once with a click, like like someone pulled the plug out of the wall?
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 16:59:45 (permalink)
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    I was playing starwars battlefront 2 and i noticed the game was laggy from the get go. 30 minutes later my pc turns black, and it shuts off. Before this i had a 3090 FE on the pc, so I know it's the gpu.


    Start an RMA. If you know it is the GPU, you will need to RMA, or provide more details. Did windows give a driver crash error, or is device manager showing any errors? Are there any red LED’s on the back of the GPU?


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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 17:25:31 (permalink)
    it shut down like a power outage, but didnt completely turn off. everything was still lit besides the GPU. I had to turn it off manually to restart it.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 17:28:42 (permalink)
    I think it may have power spiked, I was seeing a constant 420 Wattage useage while gaming too, it may be too much for my 750 P Psu. My build is: 5900x, 360mm aio, 32gb ram, 6 fans, x570 mobo, and 3090 FTW3 air cooled with two monitors.
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 17:50:13 (permalink)
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    I think it may have power spiked, I was seeing a constant 420 Wattage useage while gaming too, it may be too much for my 750 P Psu. My build is: 5900x, 360mm aio, 32gb ram, 6 fans, x570 mobo, and 3090 FTW3 air cooled with two monitors.
     


    Yes.  Your 750w PSU is entirely too small for that setup.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 18:01:39 (permalink)
    what was wrong with sticking with your 3090FE in the first place?  It's an awesome card in its own right. 

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 18:01:48 (permalink)
    Condolences.  Sounds annoying but try a bigger PSU, seriously.  I got a 1000w for my 30xx but I wish I got a 1200 or 1500 in hindsight.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 18:50:15 (permalink)
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    it shut down like a power outage, but didnt completely turn off. everything was still lit besides the GPU. I had to turn it off manually to restart it.




    Hmmmmm.  If the PSU went into protect (triggered by the GPU), all power should be cut to the machine - fans not spinning, RGB of fans off (assuming you're talking about RGB fans being on).  What may sometimes stay on is a MB light for about 10 seconds.  If that's what you had, then it's the PSU and you need a big boy unit that's more forgiving of the abusive power draw of the FTW3 card.
     
    If the RGB of the fans stayed on......?  Could be the GPU.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/09/26 18:52:08
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 19:40:25 (permalink)
    Check the dimm temps
    My 3080 was exhausting directly over the ram sticks and they weee overheating causing crashes…
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 20:12:56 (permalink)
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    Check the dimm temps
    My 3080 was exhausting directly over the ram sticks and they weee overheating causing crashes…

    I have never heard of this issue.  What were your dimm temps?  What did you do yo solve the issue.
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/26 20:38:55 (permalink)
    56-57 degrees then crashed (XMP profile).  Then I put the ram back to stock and the system was stable at jedec 2133 even when the ram hit 56 degrees.  I tested using a 120 mm fan blowing on my ram and it went down to 46 degrees so I ended up buying corsair ram cooler and now I can run my memory on XMP and everything is stable.  
    I never had a problem with my 3070 so I was convinced the PSU was inadequate (750W G3) or it was the GPU.  Look at the FTW exhaust vents, it literally dumps hot air onto the ram.  Anyway, run HWINFO run a PR stress test  and monitor the dimm temps.  I'm curious if this will help you...
     
    post edited by dk10438 - 2021/09/26 20:39:58
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/27 02:45:37 (permalink)
    The psu is usually not the problem 750w can go maybe go up to 1000w
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/27 04:34:13 (permalink)
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    The psu is usually not the problem 750w can go maybe go up to 1000w

    A 750W PSU may be capable of going up to 1000W, but not sustained. In fact, I should hope that overpower protection would kick in before that. Besides, 750W should be enough especially since that’s the rated minimum spec.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/27 05:21:21 (permalink)
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    56-57 degrees then crashed (XMP profile).  Then I put the ram back to stock and the system was stable at jedec 2133 even when the ram hit 56 degrees.  I tested using a 120 mm fan blowing on my ram and it went down to 46 degrees so I ended up buying corsair ram cooler and now I can run my memory on XMP and everything is stable.  
    I never had a problem with my 3070 so I was convinced the PSU was inadequate (750W G3) or it was the GPU.  Look at the FTW exhaust vents, it literally dumps hot air onto the ram.  Anyway, run HWINFO run a PR stress test  and monitor the dimm temps.  I'm curious if this will help you...
     




    How did the system crash?  Memory problems typically give you a BSOD (blue screen of death) with sometimes a WHEA error.  The GPU issue typically results in PSU protect power shut off, which technically isn't even a crash.
     
    If your rams are getting that hot, its sounds like you need better case air flow.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/27 07:01:06 (permalink)
    Black screen followed by a reboot.
    LL011 with 9 case fans.
    Memory temps were clearly my problem since my issues resolved after installing a ram cooler…
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/27 07:35:04 (permalink)
    mite_jan
    The psu is usually not the problem 750w can go maybe go up to 1000w

     
    depends on the psu, but if i'm running a $2K gpu in my PC, i'll suck it up and spend 10% of that for a good psu
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/27 07:42:12 (permalink)
    It certainly wouldn't hurt to reinstall the motherboard chipset drivers and graphics card driver just to eliminate that as a suspect. 

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/27 18:49:10 (permalink)
    I haven't had the issue repeat yet, but if it happens again I will update. I changed the settings on SWBF2 and no crashes yet. DIMM Temps near low 50's. When it crashed it was black screen, and all lights on pc remained on besides the GPU lights.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/28 01:20:30 (permalink)
    In my experience psu switch completely off and turn on the aystem after when over protection kicks , but i don't think that's the case as i have powered hungry gpus with potato psus just for fun , you will hear the psu changes noise also of the power draw is high
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/09/28 05:03:35 (permalink)
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    I haven't had the issue repeat yet, but if it happens again I will update. I changed the settings on SWBF2 and no crashes yet. DIMM Temps near low 50's. When it crashed it was black screen, and all lights on pc remained on besides the GPU lights.




    You could certainly try another PSU, but it sounds like a GPU fault.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/10/04 11:00:09 (permalink)
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    The psu is usually not the problem 750w can go maybe go up to 1000w

    850W gold wasnt enough for my 3090 so specs at this point are FUBAR

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/10/05 11:14:05 (permalink)
    Same event happened again, all lights on cpu cooler and GPU went out, fan lights and RAM remained lit. Screens turned black, and I had to hold the power button down to restart.
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/10/05 11:37:32 (permalink)
    Check your system event viewer. Do you see nvidia driver faults when the crash occurred ?
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW3 CRASHED 2021/10/05 12:15:01 (permalink)
    Did u ever check ur dimm temps? I had the exact same problem….

    If ur ram doesn’t have sensors run PR stress test and see if u get BSOD. Then set the ram to jedec 2133 and see if it still happens.
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