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2020/10/01 01:40:01 (permalink)
78c gaming with default fan profile. BUT, that back plate is holy crap! Extremely HOT and it has raised my cpu temps because of it. Being this is a new gpu. Will temps get better with the back plate? Couple pictures in link. 
 
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    Huntercyril
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 02:49:34 (permalink)
    I wasn't expecting to see this case. I would say the issue is the lack of intake / exhaust fans. Those custom cards, unlike the blower style coolers or even the FE who exhaust a bit outside the case by itself, rely on fan cases to exhaust all the heat. The only fan I can see as intake seems blocked by some things in the front, and the only exhaust (not counting the PSU fan which acts as almost independant) is the only on the radiator. 
     
    So to answer your question, it might but I wouldn't expect temps to lower after removing the backplate. Some backplate can indeed trap the heat, others that are more thoughts can help reduce the heat, but if your case isn't airflow friendly it won't matter much, sadly. 
     
    Also, even if 78°C is a bit hot for me, you're still under 80°C which I consider the " No trespassing zone " (that's totally subjective since these GPU's can usually climb to 95 / 100°C before throttling / shutting down).
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 03:14:17 (permalink)
    I’m getting up in the 80c and higher range on my xc3 3090. They completely undersized the cooler on this thing.
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 04:32:37 (permalink)
    IWafflesI
    I’m getting up in the 80c and higher range on my xc3 3090. They completely undersized the cooler on this thing.

    There might be room for improvement there. A quick test to know if your case airflow isn't great should be to remove the side panel. If temperatures are (way) lower when you do the same things than when you get 80°C+, then your case might lack good airflow to be able to bring fresh air or to exhaust heat efficiently enough. And sometimes fan number doesn't necessarily means good airflow. 
     
    My GTX 1080 FTW was above 80°C when gaming. I couldn't figure out why because I have 3x120mm intake fans that are 900rpm / 1500rpm (depending which mode I turn on / off) and 3 exhaust fans, a 140mm that goes around 800rpm on the back of the case and the other two being 120mm that ramp up accordingly to CPU temperature, from 800 to 1500 rpm. But then I removed the front panel of my Pure Base 500 (which is more about noise reduction and less about good airflow) and tried to maintain the same ambiant temperature, temperatures went from 80 / 85°C to 70 / 75°C max. Sure the 1080 is less powerful, but also got a smaller cooler with only two fans, and the fan curve is also a custom one I made for more silent gaming, default curves might probably get lower than 70°C.  
     
    That's why many reviews will test cards on open airflow test bench, that way they are not limited by any case restriction and the only two factors are ambiant temperature and the card's cooler efficiency (fan profiles, cooler size, etc).
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 06:55:24 (permalink)
    The fact that the backplate is hot is actually a good thing it means its wicking away heat from your card.  The problem is you dont have enough airflow over the backplate to take advantage of any heatsinking abilities.
    Thats another reason why I like CPU air coolers those two 120mm fans attached to my Noctua help cool my Ram and the top of my GPU.
     
    Your only solution is better airflow in your case which I don't know is really possible with that case.  If that's a normal ATX motherboard and not HP proprietary then you could always just buy a better case and swap everything over.
     
    Otherwise if nothing is crashing or throttling just roll with what you got. PC parts can run way hotter than people give them credit for.
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 07:03:49 (permalink)
    Yeah that case is brutal. Form over function. The cables clutter the airways. Eventually you’d want a more friendly case if possible as friend stated above me. You’d be surprised what a couple extra well placed fans can do for temps. Also these do get the budget cooler but even a great cooler won’t help if the card is choked.
    post edited by Bcassiman - 2020/10/01 07:05:52
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 07:20:06 (permalink)
    It does look like you could add an exhaust fan, to the back of the case.
    Seems to be a open space for it right under your cpu radiator.
    Might help take some of that heat out of your case.
     
     
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 07:26:16 (permalink)
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    78c gaming with default fan profile. BUT, that back plate is holy crap! Extremely HOT and it has raised my cpu temps because of it. Being this is a new gpu. Will temps get better with the back plate? Couple pictures in link. 
     
    https://imgur.com/a/c5mQrVv




    - Buy a new case.  Preferably something with a mesh front.  
    - Install system in new case
    - Burn HP Omen case and scatter remains to the four corners of the earth
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 11:08:55 (permalink)
    Thank you all for the good input. Case swap I am open to it at the same time. I was wanting a new PC next year when the newer Intel chips hit. Maybe I can ride it out I don't know. Also just curious about this. Do you think I should have went with the FE instead? Because the 1080 Ti that was in this PC was a blower style. I was worried about this 3 fan design and my case when I bought it. But, I had the chance to get this card and went ahead buying it. I have 30 days btw to send it back if it don't work out. Finally. I had to remove a graphics 6 pin power plug on my mobo. It was blocking the from being pressed down into the slot. Any problem with that? I believe its for cards that don't require any power cables to power it? Or when running SLI which I am not. I will attach a picture of it on my mobo. 
     
    https://imgur.com/a/TrOnf0Q
     
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    I took off my side panel and the temps instantly improved big time. This case is not going to cut it if I want cooler temps as yall said. 
     
     
    post edited by FattysGoneWild - 2020/10/01 14:20:26

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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/01 14:25:05 (permalink)
    xxzenpunkxx
    It does look like you could add an exhaust fan, to the back of the case.
    Seems to be a open space for it right under your cpu radiator.
    Might help take some of that heat out of your case.
     
     




     
    Excuse the herp derp moment for myself. I am not understanding what you mean? 




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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/05 16:45:08 (permalink)
    Can you guys suggest a new case for me that you think would go well? I want to do a case swap. Also. Will I have to get a new psu possibly do to cable length for a new case? I really don't want to change it since its a good psu and nothing wrong with it. But, if I must... I don't want to do an all new build since the new chips are coming out soon.
    post edited by FattysGoneWild - 2020/10/05 16:49:01

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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/05 17:18:11 (permalink)
    I'm on my phone so I can't adress most of your questions but :
    - should your cables be too short, there are extension cables that cost far less than a new PSU
    - if you're open to look at videos I would suggest GamersNexus videos about best airflow cases. You can have all prices, from 60$ to 200$ so you don't need to ruin yourself.
    Before buying, that might help you understand what you're looking for, what to avoid, what to expect, etc.

    I'd suggest to put some heavy thoughts on that because even if you can still change later, it's still annoying to transfer components and redo cable management when changing case :p
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/06 11:20:32 (permalink)
    i just built a new system in a Coolermaster H500 ARGB.  I really like it was easy to build in and is very quiet.  It also has great airflow.  
     
    The only negative I can come up is I had to  replace the rear exhaust fan because it is pretty loud.
     
    Like Hunter said GamersNexus is pretty much my go to for case reviews.  So i would just pick one that gets a good review and has the looks you like.
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/06 11:49:33 (permalink)
    doesnt look like you even have an EVGA card. so why is it posted to the EVGA forums?
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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/18 18:47:33 (permalink)
    xxzenpunkxx
    It does look like you could add an exhaust fan, to the back of the case.
    Seems to be a open space for it right under your cpu radiator.
    Might help take some of that heat out of your case.
     
     


     
    Something like this should work you think? https://www.amazon.com/No...=1603071884&sr=8-3

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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/18 20:40:20 (permalink)
    gsrcrxsi
    doesnt look like you even have an EVGA card. so why is it posted to the EVGA forums?


    To be fair, if you look at some of the forum topics here, you'll see that a good chunk of the discussions aren't EVGA at all. lol.  I just saw a 12 page long thread about Kenmore Appliance Employee pricing.  OP's post is good as any here; at least it's PC related. 

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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/19 17:30:04 (permalink)
    I decided to order this fan here to put on the back of the rad. Hoping it will get me by until a new build next year. If it does not work out. I will have to still get a new case. I also ordered some thermal grizzly.
     
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071W6HJP6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     

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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/19 17:31:53 (permalink)
    gsrcrxsi
    doesnt look like you even have an EVGA card. so why is it posted to the EVGA forums?




    I have had EVGA cards in the past and posted a lot here. My first choice is always EVGA. But, they could not deliver (out of stock) the product at time of purchase for me.

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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/20 06:37:28 (permalink)
    FattysGoneWild
    I decided to order this fan here to put on the back of the rad. Hoping it will get me by until a new build next year. If it does not work out. I will have to still get a new case. I also ordered some thermal grizzly.
     
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071W6HJP6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

     
    Get 2 more fans to go on top of the case (you may have to drill to mount them though) and set them to exhaust so they help blow hot air out of the case.
     
    Also, if you're not using them; unscrew and remove the hard drive cage at the bottom so the one intake fan you do have on the front-bottom (make sure it's set to intake) can pull in more unimpeded air to towards the GPU.


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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/20 12:50:53 (permalink)
    Thanks. I decided to do a full case swap. I ordered the NZXT H510 Elite in white.

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    Re: RTX 3080 installed but questions 2020/10/20 20:31:53 (permalink)
    FattysGoneWild
    Thanks. I decided to do a full case swap. I ordered the NZXT H510 Elite in white.



    I have the S340 (the predecessor to that case). CPU radiator in the front with 4 fans pulling air in, fan in back and top fan both set to exhaust. CPU usually stays under 50C and GPU rarely hits 80C.


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