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RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance?

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2020/12/04 16:05:01 (permalink)
Hi all,

In R6 Siege for example, I get big frame drops from 50-100fps+ using Vulkan, even worse in regular. All drivers are up to date - and did GPU firmware update as well.


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    SeanDude05
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 16:09:31 (permalink)
    Frame drops as in... it’ll plunge to 50 then back to 100+?


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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 16:12:07 (permalink)
    SeanDude05
    Frame drops as in... it’ll plunge to 50 then back to 100+?


    Yeah, exactly. FPS was a lot more stable with my RTX 2070S
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 16:47:49 (permalink)
    Sounds like some of your hardware may be throttling, or the dips could be due to using vulkan try directx instead.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 16:53:37 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Sounds like some of your hardware may be throttling, or the dips could be due to using vulkan try directx instead.



    Any idea what I should look into? Grabbing 300+ FPS, or close to 300 now and stable in game with all settings at ultra, maxed, and 4K render scaling.

    I am on 1080P, but I play competitive Siege and have 240Hz 1MS monitor - the game I also have like Watch Dogs Legion, AC Valhalla etc only get like 50 fps on 4K so prefer 1080P for now.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 17:01:46 (permalink)
    If your hardware is throttling under load you should be able to see it occurring by using software that can log the clocks/temps of your hardware while you’re gaming.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 17:04:49 (permalink)
    Sajin
    If your hardware is throttling under load you should be able to see it occurring by using software that can log the clocks/temps of your hardware while you’re gaming.


    Gotcha. IS there a chance my i9 9900K is bottle necked? Should I be upgrading to an Intel i9 10900K?



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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 17:06:02 (permalink)
    Your cpu is fine.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 18:28:23 (permalink)
    You’re def not bottlenecked. OC that bad boy to 5ghz.


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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 18:52:00 (permalink)
    try using DDU to uninstall then do a fresh install. There also a check box in DDU that will prevent Windows from installing drivers, check that first then run the uninstaller. Its a long shot but it might help ya 


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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 18:52:53 (permalink)
    SeanDude05
    You’re def not bottlenecked. OC that bad boy to 5ghz.


    I can use easy tune from gigabyte, but won't it shorten life span?
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 18:55:29 (permalink)
    It's also possible that the 2070 super is a lower TDP card, pushing less heat into the case and therefore your CPU/RAM/motherboard VRM stays cooler.  With that 3080 FTW3 Ultra (375w tdp?) installed, the CPU/RAM/Motherboard VRM could get heat soak way more than the 2070 super u had (220w tdp?).  I would also check the air flow of your case and make sure all components are getting properly cooled.  Another explanation I can think of is maybe your NVME ssd is overheating due to large heat output of your 3080 FTW3, making it throttle itself and thus you get fps dip.  Have you tried to leave your side panel open and see if that fix your issue?

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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 19:03:07 (permalink)
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    It's also possible that the 2070 super is a lower TDP card, pushing less heat into the case and therefore your CPU/RAM/motherboard VRM stays cooler.  With that 3080 FTW3 Ultra (375w tdp?) installed, the CPU/RAM/Motherboard VRM could get heat soak way more than the 2070 super u had (220w tdp?).  I would also check the air flow of your case and make sure all components are getting properly cooled.  Another explanation I can think of is maybe your NVME ssd is overheating due to large heat output of your 3080 FTW3, making it throttle itself and thus you get fps dip.  Have you tried to leave your side panel open and see if that fix your issue?


    I have a super high airflow case, CPU doesn't go over 50c, GPU doesn't see mt ogo past 70c... M.2 I haven't checked but I believe max was 50
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 19:19:18 (permalink)
    I've got a i9-9900k with the 3080 ftw3 ultra and I am not seeing any throttling. By any chance do you have the ability to monitor the gpu temp while gaming? Mine never goes above 68 to 70.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 19:56:17 (permalink)
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    I've got a i9-9900k with the 3080 ftw3 ultra and I am not seeing any throttling. By any chance do you have the ability to monitor the gpu temp while gaming? Mine never goes above 68 to 70.



    GPU temp under load and extended gaming is 58c
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 23:26:29 (permalink)
    I would use DX.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/04 23:58:33 (permalink)
    Hi, I've got similar problems. Same specs, i9 9900k, evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming, Asus rog strix z390h, 32gb ram, 3200 MHz, psu corsair rm850 gold, 1tb nvme, 500gb nvme and 1000gb hdd.
     
    Favorite game is Gears 5. I had frame drops but fixed it by ddu nvidia drivers and installing previous version. Now 457.30 seems to work just fine. If I push settings to max-ultra I get around 120-170 fps, but if I go to lower settings (even lowest) I've got same fps. GPU load with max settings is like 80, 85%, and lowest around 50, 55%.
    When I play CoD Cold War, load is like 85- 90%, and taking off ray tracing I get like 180-200 fps. Cool, but the gpu isn't strugling to get all the juice it can get. GPU temperature in game is 60º-65º, and CPU like 50º-55º.
    If I play AC: Valhalla well, that runs well, 98% and really good.
    I tried max performance at nvidia control panel and in game, but nothing changes. Any tip about how I could this beast to work 98% with every game? I play 2k, got a brand new 240hz monitor and feels frustrating not being able to get everything from the 3080
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/05 14:00:05 (permalink)
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    I would use DX.

    What is DX?
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/05 14:00:48 (permalink)
    DirectX
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/05 14:29:12 (permalink)
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    DirectX

    Use it for what though? This is where I am confused
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/05 14:33:45 (permalink)
    Instead of vulkan and open-gl?
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/05 14:59:16 (permalink)
    You aren't using a riser card are you?
    I had a similar thing with my old 1080ti, riser was faulty and it was running in 1x mode instead of 16x.
    GPU-Z tells you the current speeds..

    That asside, we kinda need more info bud.. What are your settings in siege, What's the GPU temps, utalization, memory config (Are you running in single or dual channel) Etc.. We're just guessing due to your lack of information.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/05 15:13:35 (permalink)
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    DirectX

    Use it for what though? This is where I am confused

    Use dx instead of vulkan in the game.
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/05 16:38:27 (permalink)
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    Hi, I've got similar problems. Same specs, i9 9900k, evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming, Asus rog strix z390h, 32gb ram, 3200 MHz, psu corsair rm850 gold, 1tb nvme, 500gb nvme and 1000gb hdd.
     
    Favorite game is Gears 5. I had frame drops but fixed it by ddu nvidia drivers and installing previous version. Now 457.30 seems to work just fine. If I push settings to max-ultra I get around 120-170 fps, but if I go to lower settings (even lowest) I've got same fps. GPU load with max settings is like 80, 85%, and lowest around 50, 55%.
    When I play CoD Cold War, load is like 85- 90%, and taking off ray tracing I get like 180-200 fps. Cool, but the gpu isn't strugling to get all the juice it can get. GPU temperature in game is 60º-65º, and CPU like 50º-55º.
    If I play AC: Valhalla well, that runs well, 98% and really good.
    I tried max performance at nvidia control panel and in game, but nothing changes. Any tip about how I could this beast to work 98% with every game? I play 2k, got a brand new 240hz monitor and feels frustrating not being able to get everything from the 3080



    It appears you are running 1440P. I primarily play gears 5 as well and my usage at ultra settings is consistently at 80-85%. I can play COD MW, Rainbow Six Siege, BFV and they all stay within 95-99% usage at 1440p max settings. The only other game I play where my GPU usage isn’t being fully utilized is MSFS 2020, and that’s expected since it’s a cpu bound game. My previous card, 2080S, was always at 99% usage when playing gears 5.
    post edited by Thorissr - 2020/12/06 10:20:01
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/06 02:00:57 (permalink)
    Could you run 3DMark Stresstest 20 rounds and show us the result please?
    And you did you update your intel MEI drivers as well?
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    Re: RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA + INTEL i9 9900K poor performance? 2020/12/06 08:55:54 (permalink)
    You could log the game with afterburner or other and see if the CPU is going to high load when you get the frame drops, perhaps there is an unrelated process coming in and hogging CPU.  Are we talking sustained dips or just a blip?  You can try setting the game engine process to high or realtime in task manager.
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