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2019/01/10 06:53:48 (permalink)
I'm planing on purchasing a RTX 2080 Ti XC or a RTX 2080 Ti XC ULTRA and using a water block.  Is there any reason to pay $50 dollars more for the ULTRA when I'm going to remove the heat sink anyway?  The ULTRA does have a 15MHZ higher Boost Clock.
 
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/10 07:03:27 (permalink)
    No. The XC and Ultra are the same exact pcb. The ultra has a thicker cooler. You are taking the cooler off, so don’t pay extra for the cooler.
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/10 07:14:27 (permalink)
    #2 What about the power limits on both cards?
     
    is both 130% ?

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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/10 22:46:16 (permalink)
    My Ultra is 124%.
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/10 23:16:36 (permalink)
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    #2 What about the power limits on both cards?
     
    is both 130% ?


    Both are 130%



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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/10 23:19:05 (permalink)
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    I'm planing on purchasing a RTX 2080 Ti XC or a RTX 2080 Ti XC ULTRA and using a water block.  Is there any reason to pay $50 dollars more for the ULTRA when I'm going to remove the heat sink anyway?  The ULTRA does have a 15MHZ higher Boost Clock.
     

    I have one of each in a SLI setup and the XC ULTRA seems to run 8°C-14°C Cooler that the XC Card.
    My XC ULTRA Overclock better than the XC Card but this changes from card to card.
    Both have the EVGA Hydro Copper Water Blocks installed as well. View System
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/01/10 23:25:53



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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/10 23:20:23 (permalink)
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    My Ultra is 124%.

    Is your card an FTW3 Card or an XC Card?
    If XC then you need to update your Bios.
    See EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti / 2080 XC/XC Ultra BIOS Update
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/01/10 23:22:58



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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 02:09:44 (permalink)
    fdsonn
    I'm planing on purchasing a RTX 2080 Ti XC or a RTX 2080 Ti XC ULTRA and using a water block.  Is there any reason to pay $50 dollars more for the ULTRA when I'm going to remove the heat sink anyway?  The ULTRA does have a 15MHZ higher Boost Clock.
     


    If you're not looking for the XC2 sensors, there's really no point in paying $200+ more from base reference imo since you're throwing a WB on it.  You're basically paying for a beefy air cooler and it's a gamble with OCs but I took that gamble, saved $100s by grabbing a non-XC 2080 Ti Black + Hydro Copper and get 1875+ auto boost clocks without touching any of my OC settings.  You might get less, same or more aka silicon lottery.  All you're paying for is the air cooler and out of the box advertised speeds.  I payed less and exceeded the advertised speeds as many other non-XC 2080 Ti Black owners have across the webs.  Up to you though.

         
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 02:18:25 (permalink)
    Aren't the ultras the A chips? Binned out a little better?
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 03:31:50 (permalink)
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    Aren't the ultras the A chips? Binned out a little better?



    Kinda.  You get a higher power target to 130% instead of 110%.  Like I said, there's a good chance you might be OCing the same as a 300A chip from a black 300 but it's all the same stuff at the end of the day.  You might OC 50-100mhz higher on a '300A' chip versus the '300' chips and vise versa and I'm talking about outside the window of advertised speeds.
    post edited by GTXJackBauer - 2019/01/11 03:33:58

         
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 04:21:37 (permalink)
    I noticed that the Black, XC and the ULTRA all have different BIOS so something is different.   The only thing I can think of is power levels.
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 05:13:23 (permalink)
    are all the same just cooler is different
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 06:04:27 (permalink)
    The boost clocks are different.
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 06:37:19 (permalink)
    Reminder, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter much for FPS in gaming.  OCing is all about for benchmark numbers that are only relevant for so long till they get beat.  If you want to do it for epeen, have at it but if you're looking to liquid cool, the black will do you well as it clocks really well under water.  If you're on air and want the best clocks possible, pay that extra $200-$400.

         
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 10:48:41 (permalink)
    fdsonn
    The boost clocks are different.

    Correct
    XC and the XC ULTRA have Power Targets of 130%
    I have seen up to 136% on the XC ULTRA
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/01/11 10:53:06



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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 12:12:40 (permalink)
    ftw3 hydrocopper is different. So if you really want the ultimate card that would be the one as it has a different pcb, second bios, higher power draw limit, ext.
    Since your asking about the xc vs ultra it means your shopping around for potentially a better board so i think you should glance at the ftw3. price is a little crazy but only $100 more than regular version so it may be up your alley  
    post edited by ehabash1 - 2019/01/11 12:17:03
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti XC or an ULTRA with a water block 2019/01/11 12:24:57 (permalink)
    ehabash1
    ftw3 hydrocopper is different. So if you really want the ultimate card that would be the one as it has a different pcb, second bios, higher power draw limit, ext.
    Since your asking about the xc vs ultra it means your shopping around for potentially a better board so i think you should glance at the ftw3. price is a little crazy but only $100 more than regular version so it may be up your alley  


    I have two 2 FTW3 Hydro Copper Cards One run Great and the Other Card Runs lower than the XC Cards.
    It is all in the Chip.



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