kevinc313

ty_ger07
Who says that you are not a scalper? Who says that I am not a scalper? Who says anyone is not a scalper? Or a miner? Or a gamer? Or someone who will store it in their closet and never use it?

It's not your concern. Stop worrying about others. Buy it when you have the chance, if you want.

EVGA limits one per address and verifies buyer information and has shipping address restrictions and has a 24 hour elite-only queue some times and and and.... What more do you want? EVGA should scalp them on eBay? That's your solution?

You don't get it.  I'm talking about people that are CHEATING THE SYSTEM.  As in a single person creating MANY fake shipping addresses, under fake names and with matching payment cards.  This is bog standard scalper / bot user technique.  They already have these accounts in use, so all they had to do is sign them up in February, then sit back and wait. 
 
LITERALLY THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FAKE ACCOUNTS.
 
This concerns me, because I play fair and play by the rules.
 

ty_ger07

kevinc313
LITERALLY THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FAKE ACCOUNTS.

You should give your list of fake accounts to EVGA.
(sarcasm)

If anything were easy, it would be done. Don't act like you know about fake accounts. Don't act like you know what EVGA should do differently. Your proposed solution is that EVGA should scrap the queue list and just scalp them all to eBay directly, and you think that EVGA has bad ideas?

Now, consider this from a logical standpoint: there is no such thing as a fake account. Every account is a real account which was really created. From our vantage point, there is no way for us to know any account's identity or intentions. Don't judge EVGA based on speculation.

ty_ger07
I am sure EVGA would love for you to provide them with your extensive list.

What is that they say about babies and bathwater? Who does it benefit if the queue list were to be scrapped?

Have a better solution? No? What does it benefit to complain?

kevinc313

DerpMagoo
If you think the queue system is that bad, wow have you tried getting cards on other sites on drop days? lmao. Bots are a problem everywhere. How in the world do you expect them to vet everyone? Have an actual solution? We're waiting... *crickets*
 
 

 
Yes Derp, I have.  Is that even a serious question?  
 
What EVGA has done is removed the need to use a bot.  All you need is a bunch of fake accounts and you can buy as many as you want.
 
I am not the fool here who doesn't know what they are doing - the fools are EVGA.

McAztec


You have posted multiple times on the queue feedback thread and a few other places flaming this decision, asking for heads to roll, would it be correct to assume that you are one of those that got one or more cards already and was lined up for more? 
Need to upgrade the cat's VR mouse catching simulator rig eh?
 
And what's all this about "serious people" being only those that signed up on launch day or whatever? That's some "real scotsman" right there if I ever saw any. Some people were still on the fence about upgrading, or being hit financially by the pandemic, or just waiting to see how everything's going you know? Hell, I'm still on the fence all thing considered, but I might as well try since I waited this far. As for all the new accounts being scalpers and all, has it ever occurred to you that until the market went up the creek without a paddle most of us were perfectly content buying the same thing from local shops for minimal to no markups over this store? Many of us just didn't need an account at all. My first ever GPU was an EVGA GT 430 for that matter, but for some reason the then very young me didn't even consider there was a forum, let alone benefits and internet points to be had, so here I am, account made in the current year, queue entered soon after, being labeled a scalper by some dude on the internet. No wonder you're not part of the welcoming committee!
 
I understand your frustration at the retroactive changes being made and EVGA changing the rules of the game in the middle of it, honestly I would've been just as content if this all applied to the next queues only, but here we are, so vent all you want, have your fun, but don't take it out on the rest of us, we're supposed to be in this together...
Also, anti scalping measures could also be implemented at other levels, such as refusing warranty for resold products, taking action (a per-person ban from buying comes to mind) against those caught reselling products multiple times (they supposedly know the serial number of the GPU sent you, so they can also probably see if somebody else registers it I assume), let's rather focus our efforts there instead of doing a queue witch hunt because the previous state of the queue wasn't much of a scalper/bot deterrent either by the looks of it.
I'm not saying the queue doesn't have a hefty amount of scalpers and bots, but assuming everyone you see is a scalper won't get you anywhere and I presume that the bots would be the very first to sign up, so they would rather be first in line, not at the back of the queue with the rest of us.

kevinc313
 
Actually I'm out of the game at this point, any of my needs for cards have been satisfied.  Though I'm interested to see if the "Super" cards materialize and if it's worth it for any of my friends or family to buy.
 
I've been following the whole thing intently since before the launch, like 15 months now.  Your comments are incredibly naive.

EVGATech_LeeM
I find it funny that people think that we don't have any measures in place to prevent people from purchasing multiple products from different accounts. 

kevinc313

ty_ger07
I am sure EVGA would love for you to provide them with your extensive list.

What is that they say about babies and bathwater? Who does it benefit if the queue list were to be scrapped?

Have a better solution? No? What does it benefit to complain?

And I'd love it if you'd bring more to the table than arrogant handwaving.
 

kevinc313
 
They should allow everyone to purchase one Ampere card, from this point forward.

McAztec

Nozler
*Grabs more popcorn*,,,*Munch munch spilling all over* Say isn't that 30 super a 30 series too?

Hope you've brought enough popcorn to go around then.