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2020/06/30 10:57:26 (permalink)
Quick Question, as most of you know these chips are hard to find, and back ordered in most places, the 10-9980XE is newer and has a few minor features, and a huge price cut, from what I am told, For all practical purposes the 9980XE, is the same chip, I found a place that said they had both the 10-980XE was about a thousand, and the 9980XE was about 2,000. I ordered the cheap one. Received a receipt for the old one at the price of the cheap one.... should I care? From what I understand the small stock clock change is negligiable, and would not matter if I OC, The Ram speed difference is negligible, and would not matter if I use XMP, and the number of PCIe lanes 44 to 48 is a moot point if the mother board does not support the additional lanes. This will be going into a X299 FTW K? What do you think, should I care, should I say anything, or should I just take what they send me, and move on.
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/06/30 11:05:02 (permalink)
    So are you saying you paid for the 10980XE but received the 9980XE instead?  If so yes the 2 are pretty much identical except for a few newer features in the 10980XE.  If you got a 9980XE for around $1000 then it was still a great deal but on the other hand if you ordered the 10980XE thats what you should have received. Amazon was having a lot of issues where they had the 10980XE listed with the wrong SKU and people were receiving the wrong products.  However its then hard to prove that unless you took a video of the unpackaging of the item.  I have had both the 10980XE and the 9980XE and was able to pretty much get the same results from both. 




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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/06/30 11:19:02 (permalink)
    B& H Photo... Reciept shows
    [[link=https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1507537-REG/intelbx8069510980xe_core_i9_10980xe_3_0_ghz.html]
     Billed at [<font]$1,097.50 plus 87.00 tax
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    Intel Core i9-10980XE Extreme Edition 3.0 GHz Eighteen-Core LGA 2066 Processor (Boxed)B&H # INCI910980XE MFR # BX8069510980XE listed as $2,248.50
     
    Intel Core i9-10980XE Extreme Edition 3.0 GHz Eighteen-Core LGA 2066 Processor (Boxed)B&H # INCI910980XE MFR # BX8069510980XE Listed as Back Ordered at $1,179.99

     
    Same Web site, three Prices two Products, I am still waiting to see what I get.
     
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    Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition 3.0 GHz Eighteen-Core LGA 2066 Processor INCI99980XE
    In Stock   QTY:  1   Price:  $1,097.50


     



     
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/06/30 12:17:14 (permalink)
    Well if you receive the 9980XE for that price its a great deal. 




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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/03 20:44:24 (permalink)
     It Lives !!!!!

     It Lives !!!!! Ended up getting the i9-9980X Batch L016G752
    Left over case and PSU, X299 FTW K from RMA, Lots of pretty RGB, that gets completely covered with two GPU's and a Large enough Cooler, OC Bot gave me a 4.3 With Temps in 70's, when pushed, and 64 GB of 3000 memory (F4-3200C16D16X4 TridentZ RGB), using XMP. Now to clean up and tie strap the wires, and replace the DVD Drive, then start moving everything off the X58 to the X299's two 970evo's, or two sets of Three Raid 0 SSD drives. Ahh that Moment when you have spent weeks researching, and ordering parts, day's waiting on them, hours putting them together, and are about Ready to Plug it in, flip a switch, and hope there is no smoke.
     
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/04 02:35:44 (permalink)
    Very good, you got a great deal on the 9980XE. 




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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/04 03:04:06 (permalink)
    9980XE is a great CPU, but I would demand a replacement, if I paid for 10980 and got 9980 instead. Substitution with inferior product is unacceptable especially if customer wasn't let known of upfront and wasn't given option to wait or accept a different product.
     
    This is like paying for 2080 and getting 1080 instead.
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/04 06:36:42 (permalink)
    Clock-for-clock, the 9980XE is faster than the 10980XE. The 10980XE has in-silicon spectre mitigations added which slowed it down a bit clock-for-clock. So when comparing performance and features, it really depends on the clock speed used and how much you value spectre mitigations.
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/04 07:16:15 (permalink)
    Yeah my opinion is that the performance is so close i think it was a good deal. The 9980XE of course was overpriced at $1900 and he got it for around $1100 but the 10980XE is valued at $1000 and its hard to find one for less then $1500. If he was to return the 9980XE and demand the 10980XE which they may or may not actually have he could just be looking at a refund and still not get his 10980XE.  Yes he might get his refund and then put it towards a 10980XE somewhere else but chances are he's gonna be around the $1500 mark anyways. So still paying probably $500 over retail when he's got the 9980XE for practically half price. Dollar for Dollar and performance vs performance i think he's got the better deal. 




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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/04 08:02:32 (permalink)
    Congrats on this upgrade. Getting an AIO cooler to replace the air cooler when be beneficial. 

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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/04 23:01:36 (permalink)
    Just got my 10980xe on ebay , so far it runs very good at 5g on my 2 yrs old X299 Dark (bios 1.23) but the average temp is high (67c-70c ) will down to 46 for daily use. Just curious that recently evga X299 Dark on market is that revision has any hardware/software improvement for recent intel 109xxx generation to compare to last couple yrs revision ? Thanks
     
     

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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/05 01:48:13 (permalink)
    I Hope you get an Answer, I would Love to know the technology behind this, the facts about X299 and X299X, the difference between Cascade Lake ready, and Cascade Lake Capable. The Article says”
    Intel®'s Latest Platform Unlocks Unbelievable Performance
    • Supports up to 36 CPU threads (18-core)
    • Up to 44 PCI-E 3.0 Lanes
     
    But it’s hard to sell something promising 48 lanes, if the Board will only do 44. Which is why I did not let it bother me that I got the 9980 instead of the 10980, Figured I was NOT getting the other 4 lanes anyway, But I do NOT really know for sure, A Technical explanation would be great to read, and fun to learn.... I would imagine the traces would already have to be built into the layers on the mother board, unless it preforms some switching function, based on demand. And the additional Lanes can't go anywhere, Unless there is a Path for them to get to where they need to go, and a Bios Version, to tell them how to get there; and with them both being Unlocked Version, I imagine, they both end up at the same speeds, based more on the cooling you give them, more so that the generation they are. Anyway that's My Understanding, But it's all assumption, not Fact.

      
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/05 01:54:15 (permalink)
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/05 03:09:59 (permalink)
    It all depends on silicon lottery, the 10980XE could have been even worse in OC potential than the 9980XE.
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/05 14:06:44 (permalink)
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/05 21:57:47 (permalink)
    I would not be happy with the outcome of that deal. If I received an i9 9980X when I paid for an i9 10980X I would advise them they sent the wrong CPU and ask if they can provide a replacement either in RMA or when they come in stock and you return the one they sent you. How are you going to explain that to Intel if you have to provide proof of purchase? They are not the same, if you say nothing you passively accept the deal, if you initiate... you open room for negotiation. I would see if they could discount your purchase if you want to accept this deal. You paid for that when it was in stock. Just because things are ridiculous expensive right now, does not mean you should just accept that deal. A few months back I could have had a i9 9940X for 600, a i9 9820X for 300... later on found a i9 9900X for 470. I see deals on that kind of stuff all of the time.  

    You are right about the "X299X chipset" it's not a new chipset, it's just Gigabyte's designation to show it supports the added PCI-E lanes and upgraded memory controller. MSI didn't do the same, they made a few new ones too.
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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/08 07:44:56 (permalink)
    There is no such thing as Intel X299X or X499 or X599 chipsets, just marketing gimmicks of some companies :).
    9980X and 10980X are pretty close anyway, so no big deal if owner is happy with it.

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    Re: Question 10980xe /9980XE 2020/07/12 12:53:08 (permalink)
    Yes there is almost no difference between the two chips when it comes to performance. My 10980xe I can get to pass cinebench R15 at 5.1ghz if the temps allow but I have seen 9980xe chips that can even do that so it comes down to silicon lottery. You can overcome the spectre and meltdown security patches with a XOC Bios it seems but running like that for daily use is risky.
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