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The first challenge is the Happy New Year Challenge starting Jan 1 2018 at 00:00 to Jan 16 2018 00:00 (UTC) For EST that's 7:00 PM on Dec 31. Seventeen or Bust LLR. (SOB) Things to watch out for if you want to test this before the start. PG will download as many tasks as you have threads. I got 4 on a quad core and 8 on a quad core with HT turned on. On the 8 thread the tasks started right away even though I had multi thread set up with the app_config (set up for 8T). These tasks push 20 hours with multi thread enabled. They would not all complete before start so I was forced to abort many of the tasks that had already started.(hate doing that) The way around this is to set your prefs for the % that corresponds 1 core or thread of your CPU. 25% on a quad core for instance. Also set your cache very low. After the work unit starts you can change prefs back to whatever you want to. After the start of the challenge, this won't make much difference because of the 16 day length. I'm still going to test 4T's on my 8 thread after turning off HT. Also will post times for them. Here is the app_config pulled from the 2nd post of the challenge thread. Change (4) to whatever MT you want to run. <app_config> <app> <name>llrSOB</name> <fraction_done_exact/> <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent> </app> <app_version> <app_name>llrSOB</app_name> <cmdline>-t 4</cmdline> <avg_ncpus>4</avg_ncpus> </app_version> </app_config> Good luck, can we finish 3rd in a LLR challenge??
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/27 11:39:41
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Great, thanks for posting the Config File. Current Status: NOTE: We are double checking old SoB work and tasks may be much shorter than typical SoB tasks.This is what it means: We're well beyond the point where the SoB project thoroughly double checked their work, so finding a missed prime is a possibility. Two of their primes were found while double checking their prior work. Will we find a third? On my Core i7-5960X using 12 Threads HT is ON Running 1 Tasks about 6 Hours On my Xeon(R) CPU E5-2667 v4 using 8 Cores 2 HT is OFF Running 2 Tasks about 16 Hours Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 using 12 Cores 2 HT is OFF Running 2 Tasks about 8 Hours On my AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6180 SE using 24 Cores Running 2 Tasks about 3.5+ DaysOn my AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6180 SE using 48 Cores Running 1 Tasks about 2.5+ Days Sadly I will not have my X299 Core i9 7940X Processor Rig up and running for this Challenge.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/27 16:05:34
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On my Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8Ghz tested a few setups the best so far appears to be 3 tasks with 2 cores each at just under 2 days. Edit - Looks like they are all going to settle around 2.75 days. tried 1 task with 6 cores and it settled at 2 days 20 hours (may have been a long task) it is still 1 of the 3 running and still at 2 days 20 hours.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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The trick to Multithread is to try to keep the task in the CPUs cache memory and not have it go to stick or disk more than it has to. So a single processor run one task, 2P system run 2 tasks, 4P run 4 tasks I have found on my 2P 2011 8 cores each, I have ran with and without HT, normally HT on helps some HT on or off depends on the size of the task, it may not scale up to 16 threads very well. I am going to leave HT off I think. I may try it both ways. Trying to get the other Mother boards swapped out still Also trying to get all the PG projects under one app_config file so I do not have to keep changing them <app_config> <app> <name>genefer17low</name> <max_concurrent>12</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>.2</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> <app> <name>genefer17mega</name> <max_concurrent>12</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>.2</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> <app> <name>genefer16</name> <max_concurrent>12</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> <app> <name>genefer18</name> <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> <app> <name>llrSOB</name> <fraction_done_exact/> </app> <app_version> <app_name>llrSOB</app_name> <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent> <cmdline>-t 10</cmdline> <avg_ncpus>10</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>10</max_ncpus> </app_version> <app> <name>llrMEGA</name> <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent> <fraction_done_exact/> </app> <app_version> <app_name>llrMEGA</app_name> <cmdline>-t 10</cmdline> <avg_ncpus>10</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>10</max_ncpus> </app_version> </app_config>
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/27 17:37:30
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My app_config file is too long to post anymore for PG 12 Cores or 12 Threads Seems to be the Magic Number.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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Run time (sec) 21,228.00 CPU time (sec) 240,645.98 Credit 26,288.30 Link to Tasks Link to Computer Link to Work unit click for details Note the (Application = Imported result to double-check) Credit is between 23,332.75 - 26,306.62 This is going to be a Hard Challenge Team and we need to keep the pace as best as we can.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/30 17:08:58
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"Core Parking" In Case some have forgotten. Registry key 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35cÂ318583 ValueMax = 0 ValueMin = 0 The Default for ValueMax = 100 and you want it Zero. This includes Window 7-10 and Server 2007 R2 - 2016.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/30 17:26:44
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bcavnaugh "Core Parking" In Case some have forgotten. Registry key 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35cÂ318583 ValueMax = 0 ValueMin = 0 The Default for ValueMax = 100 and you want it Zero. This includes Window 7-10 and Server 2007 R2 - 2016.
So what is this about? Edit - Ok I googled it and understand.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/30 17:34:07
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Sometimes Windows will park a CPU Core to save I have no Clue but is sometimes reduce the Power of all your Cores. I have been tuning it off for years now and forgot to check after the last Forced Windows OS update. Core Parking. Core Parking is a sleep state, C6, supported by most modern processors and Operating Systems. Core Parking dynamically disables CPU cores in an effort to conserve power when idle. Disabled cores are re-enabled as the CPU load increases once again
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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I believe I turn off C6 in my bios, but good to check the registry also. Thanks for the reminder. Edit - I did find that windows decided one of my machines needed to revert to the 388.13 in the last 2 days though.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/30 20:18:51
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I have everything over c1 disabled in the BIOS So do I need to check? I have every core maxed most of the time anyway.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/30 20:47:51
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bill1024 I have everything over c1 disabled in the BIOS So do I need to check? I have every core maxed most of the time anyway.
It Would not hurt to check the Registry keys posted above, their is 2 sometimes 3 to change. It is easy to see in Windows 7 and Server OS Image On The Way. (Somewhat like this) As Shown in Resource Monitor in Windows 7 & Server 2007 R2
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2017/12/31 17:18:39
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Just got home and realized it was go time just over an hour ago. Release the CPUs! Edit: Happy New Year!
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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planetclown Just got home and realized it was go time just over an hour ago. Release the CPUs!
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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PrimeGrid fired up. Happy new year!
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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Same Here, everyone have a Safe & Fun New Years Eve and a Great New Year for 2018 for You and Yours.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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Up and running also, have a great New Year's Eve and talk to you Next year.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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i9-7980XE CPU Is Kicking But..... Link i9-900X Doing Well First Task Completed I think. i9-7940X Nice Time as well.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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My hardware does not like this project. I'm in but 50% after 12 hours? That's the fastest one. Crazy slow. One Linux rig won't take the app_config so will drop 4 tasks 5 days from now.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2018/01/01 06:23:04
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yodap My hardware does not like this project. I'm in but 50% after 12 hours? That's the fastest one. Crazy slow. One Linux rig won't take the app_config so will drop 4 tasks 5 days from now.
Mine does not either. One of my rigs has 6 days on all work units and the other has 4 days. So I am not going to be much help in this challenge. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2018/01/01 06:49:39
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ok - I stand corrected. I put Bill1024's app_config in and all of the work units take 2 days. So, sorry I did not read ahead and thanks Bill1024, the file changed all my machines to 2 days down from 6 and 4 days without the update app_config. It's running fine - Yaay I have 10 CPUs each running on three machines. rs My new name should be "ready, fire, aim Robby"
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2018/01/01 11:14:47
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My one system will take 14.5 days per task!!! I have a feeling it will be a little faster, I hope.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2018/01/01 11:44:25
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Hopefully that one is a carpet bomber.
My first task should drop soon.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2018/01/01 11:53:23
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I have about 25 hours till I drop some.
The Ryzen will be even longer.
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2018/01/01 12:17:30
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polarbeardj I have about 25 hours till I drop some.
The Ryzen will be even longer.
That Ryzen, what model, how many cores/threads, what CPU speed, running multitask or one task per core, HT on or off? On the 2P intel, how many tasks running, mutithreaded, how many cores per task?
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Re: PrimeGrid Challenge Series- First Challenge of 2018.
2018/01/01 12:21:34
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FYI on my Ryzen 7 1800X ( 807978) I have SMT Off (HT) and running 6 Cores Taking a little over 15 Hours. Run time 54,321.00 CPU time 311,593.42 http://www.primegrid.com/result.php?resultid=8667583787 *Folding on one (Core + GPU) & one Core Free. AMD Ryzen 7 1700X The Polar Bear's Rig ( polarbeardj) Link But only Time *3 Days or more will give us a Better Known Team Position.
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