kram36
 
If we don't have jobs here how can we buy anything, even if it's made in China? The USA has had it's wealth stolen from it by China using slave labor.
 
Oh and NAFTA has been wealth stealing of the USA also.

kram36

rjohnson11
Thank you for these wonderful tariffs for making global trade worse than it already is.

Are you trying to say there are no tariffs put on USA goods going into other countries? Evening the playing field is what's happening and it's time is over due. You don't like it? Think how we in the USA feel.

rjohnson11

kram36

rjohnson11
Thank you for these wonderful tariffs for making global trade worse than it already is.

Are you trying to say there are no tariffs put on USA goods going into other countries? Evening the playing field is what's happening and it's time is over due. You don't like it? Think how we in the USA feel.

This all started with the Steel and Aluminum imports from various countries such as China, Canada, and the EU. Tariffs were decided to try and make prices fair. The problem that ordinary USA citizens don't see is that American steel lacks quality. In my personal opinion the USA steel industry hasn't put enough money into making sure steel factories have superior equipment and better trained personnel. The owners of those companies are taking too much money for themselves rather than invest in infrastructure. If American steel were competitive in the first place none of these tariffs would come to pass.

rjohnson11

kram36

rjohnson11

kram36

rjohnson11
Thank you for these wonderful tariffs for making global trade worse than it already is.

Are you trying to say there are no tariffs put on USA goods going into other countries? Evening the playing field is what's happening and it's time is over due. You don't like it? Think how we in the USA feel.

This all started with the Steel and Aluminum imports from various countries such as China, Canada, and the EU. Tariffs were decided to try and make prices fair. The problem that ordinary USA citizens don't see is that American steel lacks quality. In my personal opinion the USA steel industry hasn't put enough money into making sure steel factories have superior equipment and better trained personnel. The owners of those companies are taking too much money for themselves rather than invest in infrastructure. If American steel were competitive in the first place none of these tariffs would come to pass.

That's a load of horse manure. The tariffs on USA goods started a long time ago and it was done because the quality was better and other countries couldn't compete. It's now time these tariffs go away or all the junk coming into the USA tariff free start getting the same tariffs applied to them.

I didn't mention that.  I'm talking about the recent tariffs or the new tariff wars.
 
However, what I would like to see is the start of free trade. I'd like to see Europe and the USA enter into a start of free trade on certain items. That means no import duties or tariffs.

kram36

rjohnson11

kram36

rjohnson11

kram36

rjohnson11
Thank you for these wonderful tariffs for making global trade worse than it already is.

Are you trying to say there are no tariffs put on USA goods going into other countries? Evening the playing field is what's happening and it's time is over due. You don't like it? Think how we in the USA feel.

This all started with the Steel and Aluminum imports from various countries such as China, Canada, and the EU. Tariffs were decided to try and make prices fair. The problem that ordinary USA citizens don't see is that American steel lacks quality. In my personal opinion the USA steel industry hasn't put enough money into making sure steel factories have superior equipment and better trained personnel. The owners of those companies are taking too much money for themselves rather than invest in infrastructure. If American steel were competitive in the first place none of these tariffs would come to pass.

That's a load of horse manure. The tariffs on USA goods started a long time ago and it was done because the quality was better and other countries couldn't compete. It's now time these tariffs go away or all the junk coming into the USA tariff free start getting the same tariffs applied to them.

I didn't mention that.  I'm talking about the recent tariffs or the new tariff wars.
 
However, what I would like to see is the start of free trade. I'd like to see Europe and the USA enter into a start of free trade on certain items. That means no import duties or tariffs.

The EU is too corrupt to go free trade with the USA.

kram36
Good. These parts should be made in the USA.

EyeDeeNo

bill1024
The trouble with tariffs is that the target country does not pay them. We end up paying them when we buy the imports.
Weren't happy paying 1000$ for a 700$ video card a couple months ago, why would you be happy paying it now?
Also I rather they not go back to making all that steel again in PA. Here in NY we used to have a big problem with acid rain.
Not heard of acid rain in years and years. The streams are producing fish again, the trees are healthy again and I can leave my car out in the rain and not have spots etched into the paint. Let them deal with it over there.
Or if you insist it be here, make it in CA. Hawaii or Alaska. As far away from here as possible. 
 
Making electronic is a very dirty business, the chemicals, solvents and materials are nasty.
IBM major plants are not too far away, the land, ground water is polluted, people who live close have strange health issues.
I worked in IBM, I could not use freon detectors because as soon as I got in the building they would go off. How bad it was in there.
China has control of rare-earth materials and I doubt they will give them up so we can take their major business away.
 
 

+1

Don't forget GE's PCBs in the Hudson River among others.

 
I also have worked at IBM, as a contractor for most all plants and facilities in the area on and off over the years.

 
But this is getting off topic.
 
We all like lower prices and seek them but manufacturing here cost to much do to many factors plus companies are always looking for way to increase profits.
 
Seeing MADE IN USA still gets me excited.

HaywireHaywood
I think consumers voting with their wallets contribute also.  All things being equal, if one 1080 is $500 and the next is $800, most folk will opt for the less expensive model which drives the manufacturers to lower overhead as much as they can which means offshore.

Hoggle
The really bad thing is a company can now charge 24% more even if they are not getting parts from China. It makes investors happy to up the price and what are you going to do about it pay 25% more for the Chinese made part because you are upset over the 24%?