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2016/10/07 04:00:22 (permalink)
Hi!
 
I'm trying to move as much as possible of my daily computer usage and gaming environment to Ubuntu.
With steam supporting more and more games in linux environment, I wonder if it's possible for you to also support linux as well?
 
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2016/10/07 20:53:58 (permalink)
     
    I don't think that Linux is popular enough to really make that move in my opinion.

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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2016/10/08 02:34:26 (permalink)
    I disagree with you there.
     
    Ubuntu and Mint is becoming more popular as Windows replacement, also Steam is releasing more and more games available for Linux.
    If more hardware vendors would also support Linux it would also make it more viable to replace Windows.
    Particularly with the pending changes that MS will enforce on Windows update.
     
    Personally I try to move as far away as possible from Windows as I possibly can.
    I use it only for the moments when I play games I would cherish the day when I don't have to boot into Windows to play games.
     
    I have also seen quite a few requests for NZXT to support LInux when it comes to Cam.
    Partly also why I think it would be worth to strongly consider to support Linux when it comes to Precision X.
     
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2016/10/08 04:46:22 (permalink)
    There's no plans for a Linux version of PrecisionX, and officially we don't support Linux, but as there are standard Nvidia APIs for monitoring and control in the drivers, there may be other Linux software that can perform similar functions. 
     
    Overclocking support was added in the 337 Linux drivers, in a manner similar to the "coolbits" setting in the old Detonator drivers. There's a guide for Linux Mint here
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/07/07 09:38:58 (permalink)
    +1 Would love to see Precision X support on Ubuntu.
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/07/21 20:51:30 (permalink)
    Linux only has a 2% market share, definitely not worth developing for.
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/07/23 10:39:35 (permalink)
    Where did you get this statistic?
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/07/24 14:03:02 (permalink)
    ww.statista.com/statistics/218089/global-market-share-of-windows-7
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Market_share_by_category
     
     
     
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/07/24 14:06:48 (permalink)

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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/06 07:41:57 (permalink)
    http://www.techrepublic.c...-gaining-market-share/
    Why users are keeping Linux from gaining market shareIf you've ever wondered why Linux still struggles with market share, the community's answer to a newbie question could shed some light.
     
     
     
     
    * then way down about paragragph #7 *
     

    Attitude

    At the beginning of 2017, I predicted that Linux would finally break the 5% market share barrier. This cannot happen if the overriding attitude in the Linux community is, "If you have to ask, Linux isn't for you."
     
     
    * and ends with *
     
    Linux is a remarkable platform that can do anything the competition can — even attract new users. But as long as there are those refusing to accept a flood of n00bs into the fold, those new users will remain at arm's length.
     
     
     
     
     
    personally, I say true, but 1/2 a cop out.
    devs need to stay up with the apps that go along with newer hardware and the popular uses.
    otherwise have happening exactly what this thread points out.
     
     
     
     
     BTW,
    2% "market share" equals how many users to ignore?
     
     ACCORDING TO WIKI...
    "There are "three big personal computing platforms",[3] two of which claim over 1.4 billion users, Android and Windows. The third "platform" – or strictly two (or three) platforms – Apple's iOS and macOS combined, have over 1 billion users.[3]"
     
    3,400,000,000 - 2% (68,000,000) = 3,332,000,000
                                           ^
                      Linux users deemed not worth the effort.
     
     BTW 2,
    ALSO FROM WIKI
    From late 2016 the mobile era took over, with the desktop computers' market share (measured by web usage; including macOS) was down to 45.22% in January 2017,[6] an "end of an era"[7] was declared by StatCounter for Windows (and the desktop in general) as no longer most popular, since smartphones alone – excluding tablets – because of Android, have majority use globally.
     
     
     
    post edited by miscbyproduct - 2017/08/06 07:59:42
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/06 10:18:45 (permalink)
    I believe only about 10% of whatever is posted on WIKI, you should find at least a Second Source for each item noted for validation. 

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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/06 10:48:48 (permalink)
    i believe LESS THAN 10% of what any corp states.
     
    MORE SO, MS, Apple, Samsung, etc...
     
     
    Infact, wiki i the only one that doesn't have a vested interest in padding the numbers.
     
     
    which means, any one of those corps, or anyone else,  could post to wiki whatever they want.
     
     
     
    so, 1 source, 10 sources.... dosn't matter, cause no one truly knows how many ppl are using which OS's and none the corps are going to admit by what number, they lose to another
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/06 11:25:57 (permalink)
    The Big Corporation Donate Very Heavy to Wiki in case no one knows.

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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/06 13:21:34 (permalink)
    doesn't surprise me.
    but atleast with wiki, anyone can edit.
    whilst wiki hopes for supporting documentation, it isn't required.
     
    think wiki said it was 2016....
    MS was quoted as saying, almost 1B use win10
    got questioned about it and and they recalulated to 400k
     
     
    is why i said, one source is as good as another.... none can prove it.
     
     I currently have 3 ver of windows (got 4), and 2 ver of linux.
    on drives that I can swap in and out.
     
    But I only actually use win 7 and mint 18
     
    but then if want to be technical, I also got Dos 6.2 and unknown ver of various parts of linux on cd & pens.
     
    so no one can truely make head or tails of any of the number claims.
     
     
    The numbers I seen in the wiki article, were mostly based from website stats, and official claims from the OS's.
    which really also mean nothing considering the browser addons that allow user agent changing, on the fly.
     
    I guess I'd come closest to believing distro watch, over anyone. ... still though, truth is up for grabs (all to often).
     
     
     
    post edited by miscbyproduct - 2017/08/06 13:31:10
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/07 03:50:11 (permalink)
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    Hi!
     
    I'm trying to move as much as possible of my daily computer usage and gaming environment to Ubuntu.
    With steam supporting more and more games in linux environment, I wonder if it's possible for you to also support linux as well?
     
    Cheers.


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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/07 10:58:38 (permalink)
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    I think before this can happen NVIDIA needs to provide Better Drivers and Current Drivers for at lest Ubuntu.

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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2017/08/17 05:21:17 (permalink)
    You forgot Manjaro, which is almost as widespread as ubuntu and has much better hardware support.
    As well as many more programs in the repositories (Normal and AUR, currently 53097 packages)
    Oh and Steam is already installed
     
    The drivers are always up to date (NVIDIA 375.82 in Stable, NVIDIA 384.59 in Unstable)
     

    All the statistics are funny as there should also be high Numbers at linux when the games the most players playing are not compiled for linux?
    Oh and Android is Linux
     
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/12 23:24:31 (permalink)
    Any possibilities to control dual FANs iCX in Linux? From my tets when you set fixed fan speed in nvidia setting under Linux - its set up only GPU fan speed, VRM fan - stopped and not working. Thus this limits the OC possibilities of a cards... :( When it set to auto from boot - bot fans works, but only how BIOS says - to low for good OC.
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/13 05:51:07 (permalink)
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    Any possibilities to control dual FANs iCX in Linux? From my tets when you set fixed fan speed in nvidia setting under Linux - its set up only GPU fan speed, VRM fan - stopped and not working. Thus this limits the OC possibilities of a cards... :( When it set to auto from boot - bot fans works, but only how BIOS says - to low for good OC.

    Your options are:
    1) Find a computer programmer capable in basic electrical engineering and software programming and pay that person an hourly wage to create a solution for the world to use. It should not be hard for someone who knows what they are doing, since the groundwork of learning the additional iCX microcontroller identification, abilities, and communication method, has already been accomplished by people who develope some GPU monitor software which is now capable of reading EVGA's iCX sensor data.
    2) Unplug the fans from the video card, buy the necessary adapters to adapt from GPU mini 4-pin PWM header to standard ATX 4-pin PWM header, and plug the fans into a fan controller or motherboard fan header and control the fan speeds that way.
    3) (Void warranty or add repair cost to a warranty claim: ) Cut the fans' PWM wires and splice them together to all receive their signal from only the GPU fan header. Make sure the fans still get their power and ground from each separate GPU header (so you don't try to put them all on one header and overload one header) and make sure you combine ONLY the PWM wires. With PWM wires combined, all the fans will run at the same general speed and will all be controlled by the one GPU fan speed choice.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2018/02/13 08:32:51
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/13 07:45:55 (permalink)
    would love to see support for better fan control in linux, for GPU overclocking you can add the coolbits to your x11 config file and get basic fan control (no curves though) I use MX-17 linux and it by far the best i have ever used, nvidia driver are snap to install along with a ton of other apps, the snapshot feature is a god sent feature that every OS should have. 

                                   
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/13 11:31:06 (permalink)
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    and pay that person
    I've already paid to EVGA - why should I pay again? For feature that any other manufacturer have? :) Just make chained fans (2 or 3) RPM controlling when NV driver say so - that it.
     
    Other feature leave to W/POC - ok. No Linux support? - ok. Coz this is extra features no one have.
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/13 11:47:26 (permalink)
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    and pay that person
    I've already paid to EVGA - why should I pay again? For feature that any other manufacturer have? :) Just make chained fans (2 or 3) RPM controlling when NV driver say so - that it.
     
    Other feature leave to W/POC - ok. No Linux support? - ok. Coz this is extra features no one have.

    Sorry, the way EVGA designed it, it is not so easily possible for the NVIDIA driver to be able to control all the fans at once. EVGA's asynchronous fan feature is special and requires additional software which is not built into NVIDIA's drivers. The asynchronous fans are controlled be separate microcontrollers which do not interact at all with NVIDIA's drivers. Only the main fan interacts with NVIDIA's drivers. For the asynchronous fans to be controlled, you must talk to them in software individually. There is no such thing as "linking" them in hardware. You have to use software to link them. So, you need a programmer to do it.

    What are you talking about? Other manufacturers support?! No other manufacturer has the asynchronous fan feature! Not all of EVGA's cards have asynchronous fans. You happened to choose a model which does. Your regret is all your own.

    You purchased the product with access to the feature list, but now you regret your decision. I am sorry.

    I told you your options. EVGA's software does not support Linux. EVGA in general does not support Linux; it says so right in the Download section of their website. Sorry. If you want Linux support, you must find it yourself. To start with, I gave you 3 good options.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2018/02/13 11:54:18
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/14 01:38:57 (permalink)
    What I don't forget is what is illustrated most every time I read a *nix related thread. It starts out with one particular distro and ends up with several being touted as favs and the best. That right there is the problem. Everyone wants their flavor...forgetting that all those flavors need support and need to work with hardware and software and firmware and drivers every time. Most folk are not going to like wait for neckbeard #2 to figure out a bodge for some common hardware you just plug in and it works with Windows. Windows more or less accomplishes this across literally billions of combinations of the above by being a standardized platform with defined standard. But but....MS is ebil!

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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/14 01:58:57 (permalink)
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    Only the main fan interacts with NVIDIA's drivers.
    So the link nv-driver <-> evga microcontroller do exist, according to you. Just add second and third fan to it. No problem ;)
     
    What are you talking about? Other manufacturers support?! No other manufacturer has the asynchronous fan feature!
    The feature when all fans RPM is controlled through nV driver. BTW previous to iCX EVGA cards had this feature, new with iCX don't. For example - I want to use RivaTuner in Windows - can I change both fans RPM there? No. But for god's sake why??? When this feature was earlier in EVGA products? :)
     
    Linux not the question, forget about it already. The question is good OC when you don't have POC.
     
    I gave you 3 good options.
    ty, maybe I will, or maybe EVGA will. We'll se :)
    post edited by CfYz_R - 2018/02/14 06:33:38
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    Re: Precision x linux support? 2018/02/14 06:11:03 (permalink)
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    Only the main fan interacts with NVIDIA's drivers.
    So the link nv-driver <-> evga microcontroller do exist, according to you. Just add second and third fan to it. No problem ;)

    Yes, it is no problem when you have Precision installed and running. If you want some other program to do it, possibly in some other operating system, you need to find someone to make the program. The software link doesn't link them permanently. The software link says, "hey extra microcontroller, since the main fan is now turning 1350 RPM, I want you to also turn 1350 RPM", and it monitors fan speeds and communicates with the separate microcontroller in that way hundreds of times per second. The NVIDIA driver never talks directly to the asynchronous fan microcontroller, "linked" or not. "Linked" just means that you are telling the software to make sure that it adjusts the asynchronous fan to match the main GPU fan. Don't want to use Precision? Find or develope a different program to do the same thing.

    What are you talking about? Other manufacturers support?! No other manufacturer has the asynchronous fan feature!
    The featrure when all fans RPM a controlled through nV driver. BTW previos to iCX EVGA cards had this feature, new with iCX don't. For example - I want to use RivaTuner in Windows - can I change both fans RPM there? No. But for god's sake why??? When this feature was earlier in EVGA products? :)

    If you don't want a product with asynchronous fans, don't buy a product with asynchronous fans. Simple. EVGA makes multiple products with different features. This feature, you don't like. But you purchased it. What can I say that I haven't already said?
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2018/02/14 07:55:56
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