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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/04/07 15:47:00 (permalink)
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Wonder why no one is asking the same of MSI Afterburner.

I'm sure you could guess why.



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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/04/07 18:36:07 (permalink)
Good luck. EVGA isn't even supporting Windows properly. 
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/10/22 22:53:03 (permalink)
Yeah, preventing the cards from having fan control from the regular Nvidia drivers and then not supporting an operating system like Linux is lame.
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/10/25 21:57:49 (permalink)
This post is so incredibly SPOT ON that it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to ignore.

68 MILLION USERS of Linux...
That seems VERY much worth it to me.
I spent a BOATLOAD of money on my EVGA cards. I loved the hybrids. If I'm forced to use Windows because EVGA can't see the forest through the trees... so be it. I'll move my business elsewhere. Bricking these cards because something as simple as fan control only being accessible through XOC and XOC only being accessible through Windows is at best short-sighted and at worst, negligent to shareholders. You're intentionally ignoring a huge potential client base (68 Million users world wide) because of a prejudice? 
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/07 15:14:30 (permalink)
Could you please make some tool just for the terminal? no need for GUI, just a lil piece of software to control rgb and maybe control fan from linux... no politics nor bias involved here, it's just that there are linux users out there with your hardware, and i wish i could control the rgb of my build which is expensive and quite good looking... my 1080 ftw should be beautiful but since i have no control over it, it's uggly. It's a pity, and as an evga user i wish i could be proud of it...
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/07 20:17:17 (permalink)
1) EVGA's software development team hasn't gotten the software to work correctly in Windows. Think that they can split their work in two different directions and get them both working correctly? Not likely.

2) Fan control isn't required. Your card won't "brick". The card is designed to work out of the box, for the entire warranty period, without any customization on your part.

3) This thread is from 3 years ago and two iterations of Precision in the past. Precision has been re-written twice since this thread has started, yet still no Linux support. Let it rest. Precision is not coming to Linux.

4) NVIDIA hasn't provided proper support in Linux for EVGA to utilize. EVGA uses NVAPI in Windows to monitor and control the video card's behavior. Until NVIDIA adds NVAPI (or something similar) to Linux, I don't know what you expect EVGA utilize.
post edited by ty_ger07 - 2019/11/07 20:31:13

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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/08 00:56:50 (permalink)
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1) EVGA's software development team hasn't gotten the software to work correctly in Windows. Think that they can split their work in two different directions and get them both working correctly? Not likely.

2) Fan control isn't required. Your card won't "brick". The card is designed to work out of the box, for the entire warranty period, without any customization on your part.

3) This thread is from 3 years ago and two iterations of Precision in the past. Precision has been re-written twice since this thread has started, yet still no Linux support. Let it rest. Precision is not coming to Linux.

4) NVIDIA hasn't provided proper support in Linux for EVGA to utilize. EVGA uses NVAPI in Windows to monitor and control the video card's behavior. Until NVIDIA adds NVAPI (or something similar) to Linux, I don't know what you expect EVGA utilize.

1) fancy GUIs are in the way of software to work correctly... Plus windows is way more unreliable when it comes down to compatibility nowadays.
2)EVGA provides warranty for any OC and anything you want to do to your card. It is the most expensive brand for this reason too.
3)i won't let it rest only because you think it should, i am an evga user and i made a legit polite request and you can mind your business.
4) there are already many tools out there for gpu oc under linux, like this one ( GreenWithEnvy Project ID: 10152670 at GitHub ). Have this people stopped since there's no official NVAPI support? no, they just came out with the software in their spare time. I don't need control over those features, i already have... What i miss is control over RGB. that's it, i am not asking a lift to the moon...
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/08 03:44:14 (permalink)
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/08 04:59:34 (permalink)
In Linux, you got your own set of tools.
In the terminal, you can use the command:
 
sudo nvidia-smi -q 0 -pl 150
 
Where -q 1 is only necessary for multiple GPUs (the first GPU being addressed as 0 or zero)
And -pl 150 gets you 150Watts of power. It can be either lower or higher than stock power levels.
You can also use nvidia-smi to look at your GPU stats (like temp, fan speed, GPU load, etc...), by typing:
 
watch -n 1 nvidia-smi
 

 
The second adjustment can only be made in the GUI, nvidia xserver settings, where you can get both overclocking settings, as well as fan speed options, after enabling them in the terminal.


 
You can enable overclocking and fanspeed by entering in terminal:
 
sudo nvidia-xconfig --enable-all-gpus
sudo nvidia-xconfig --cool-bits=28
 
Sometimes you'll need to do the enable-all-gpus, reboot, and then do cool-bits.
Sure, it's not as fancy as Precision X, but it does the job, and very precisely too (one can overclock to the Mhz, and to a decimal of a watt!).
post edited by ProDigit - 2019/11/08 05:06:15
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/08 05:05:56 (permalink)
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1) EVGA's software development team hasn't gotten the software to work correctly in Windows. Think that they can split their work in two different directions and get them both working correctly? Not likely.

2) Fan control isn't required. Your card won't "brick". The card is designed to work out of the box, for the entire warranty period, without any customization on your part.

3) This thread is from 3 years ago and two iterations of Precision in the past. Precision has been re-written twice since this thread has started, yet still no Linux support. Let it rest. Precision is not coming to Linux.

4) NVIDIA hasn't provided proper support in Linux for EVGA to utilize. EVGA uses NVAPI in Windows to monitor and control the video card's behavior. Until NVIDIA adds NVAPI (or something similar) to Linux, I don't know what you expect EVGA utilize.

1) fancy GUIs are in the way of software to work correctly... Plus windows is way more unreliable when it comes down to compatibility nowadays.
2)EVGA provides warranty for any OC and anything you want to do to your card. It is the most expensive brand for this reason too.
3)i won't let it rest only because you think it should, i am an evga user and i made a legit polite request and you can mind your business.
4) there are already many tools out there for gpu oc under linux, like this one ( GreenWithEnvy Project ID: 10152670 at GitHub ). Have this people stopped since there's no official NVAPI support? no, they just came out with the software in their spare time. I don't need control over those features, i already have... What i miss is control over RGB. that's it, i am not asking a lift to the moon...

1) Irrelevant response. My statement still stands.
2) Again, irrelevant response. The claim was that EVGA was causing cards to "brick" by refusing to support Linux. Nonsense.
3) Good luck.
4) Irrelevant response. EVGA uses NVAPI. Like said in #1, EVGA isn't going to fragment its software implementation process multiple directions.

As stated above, there are other existing ways to get partial customization support in Linux. NVIDIA-smi and Coolbits. All you are really missing in Linux is low-level support for EVGA's proprietary ICX fan/sensor and RGB customization. Unfortunately, I don't see that changing any time soon / ever. Expect to wait at least 3 more years. ;) As stated, the card will function properly for its entire warranty period without adjusting the fan speed or RGB lighting, for those cards where EVGA's proprietary implementation doesn't allow for customization in Linux.

IF NVIDIA adds NVAPI support to Linux, I think that is when EVGA would more seriously consider Linux Precision development; since implementation would be more similar to what its development team is already familiar with. Even then, somewhat unlikely. But definitely extremely unlikely until then.




If you really, really want some feature to be available in Linux, I suggest that you find a group of like-minded individuals, band together, and fund the development of such software. There have been breakthroughs in understanding how to communicate with EVGA's ICX MCU. Wizzard over at Techpowerup is likely a good developer to have this discussion with. He at least can tell you what he already knows about the ICX MCU communication process.
post edited by ty_ger07 - 2019/11/08 05:19:51

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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/08 05:20:23 (permalink)
Why was my response deleted?
 
EDIT:
I'll say it again but differently.
 
There are options in Linux.  As stated, nvidia-smi commands are available and cool-bits is available.  The level of customization is still lacking compared to Windows, but there is some customization available with those implementations.  Unfortunately, for EVGA's proprietary ICX asynchronous fans and RGB, nvidia-smi and cool-bits are ineffective and you will have to simply use the card the way it was designed.  The claim was that the card would be "bricked" if not customized, but that is simply false.
 
The root factor is that NVAPI is not available in Linux and there is almost zero chance that EVGA will develop for Linux unless NVIDIA makes NVAPI commands available.  It's just not worth EVGA's time creating another, completely different, software implementation which will be still extremely limited (like nvidia-smi and cool-bits are limited) due to the lack of existing communication options between the software and hardware on the driver level.
 
If you absolutely must have communication with the ICX MCU in Linux, I suggest that you contact developers who have already pioneered unofficial support for communication with EVGA's ICX MCU, and consider funding their efforts to bring the customization you want to Linux.
post edited by ty_ger07 - 2019/11/08 08:48:55

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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/08 09:13:36 (permalink)
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Re: Precision x linux support? 2019/11/08 11:18:16 (permalink)
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...  The level of customization is still lacking compared to Windows, but there is some customization available with those implementations.  Unfortunately, for EVGA's proprietary ICX asynchronous fans and RGB, nvidia-smi and cool-bits are ineffective and you will have to simply use the card the way it was designed.  ...


Not entirely true. Nvidia xserver allows for multinfan settings, if the card does. Some GPUs I have have 2 fan speed sliders.


Also, the power limit setting eliminates the need for undervolting, the only option Linux doesn't have, in that power capping or limiting will automatically set the voltage to it's lowest (or highest) setting, and is adjusted dynamically rather than statically in Windows. I think this to be a superior way to adjust voltage, compared to Windows!
 
Last thing missing is the LED adjustment.
LEDs in Linux either stay on, or cycle on/off when in use.
I've had 1x GTX1050 card that would change led color, based on GPU load, or fan speed. But mostly a static,non adjustable setting.
For LED off, you'd have to unplug the led connector on the gpu itself (what I do, as I don't really need my system drawing unnecessary attention).
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