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Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mode

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2018/02/21 02:54:13 (permalink)
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I have GTX 1080 Ti Kingpin card. Precision XOC not working properly in manual mode curve adjusting. When I apply custom curve it distorts it and make it different from which I set it. It happens any time I hit apply button or reboot system/ program. Maybe anybody else heve that issue? Because I could not use Basic and Linear methods of it just crashes all time at any increase over stock.. So only what I can do is decrease graph and set to manual with max frequency of 2050MHz at 1.093v. But it is very annoying to redone manual every time Precision was started... Second question is there any possibility to  increase in manual mode lower frequency steps, because I can do only 2012 - 2037 - 2050 -2076 MHZ. But I cannot fine tune for 2025-2063 and so on... I cannot use MSI afterburner because of stupid ICX fan control and Afterburner dont understand each fan.. Is there something like Afterburners Ctrl+f mode for boost 3.0 table editing in Precision?
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    dual109
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 06:51:48 (permalink)
    Hi, The Manual Voltage/Frequency curve in Precision XOC has been broken now for sometime, it is simply a pain to use. It also does not save the profile.    This problem has been posted in the software section on a few occassions.  Not sure if it will be fixed in the next release but I'm like you would prefer to use AB but because of the ICX fan control it will only control one fan and so your temperatures increase hampering your overclock which kind of defeats the purpose of using the V/F curve.  I have tried AB with my FTW3 and can tell you with only 1 fan operating (the other 2 start after you hit 60 degrees) my temperatures are 10 degrees hotter then with XOC.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 09:20:44 (permalink)
    It would be like wow if evga would hire someone to fix there software since there card needs it.

    I believe someone mentioned you can start pxoc just to set the fans at a certain speed and then close it and launch ab and the fan speed would stick?

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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 13:11:25 (permalink)
    AHowes
    I believe someone mentioned you can start pxoc just to set the fans at a certain speed and then close it and launch ab and the fan speed would stick?

    This is correct. You can set your fans manually inside xoc, close xoc, start msi afterburner, and overclock from there. 
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 13:11:57 (permalink)
    Moving thread to evga software subsection.
     
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 22:46:25 (permalink)
    So it needs to be running all time in tray or just closing completely app? I tried it before and its worked only if both software are running in tray....
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 22:47:59 (permalink)
    Thanks to everyone for fast response! 
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 23:03:27 (permalink)
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    So it needs to be running all time in tray or just closing completely app? I tried it before and its worked only if both software are running in tray....


    When setting the fans manually you can close the app. Only time precision needs to stay open is if you're running a custom fan curve.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 23:12:04 (permalink)
    Jep, I run custom curve. So need both to hang in tray :(
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 23:16:49 (permalink)
    Running both precision and afterburner at the same time isn't a great idea as it could cause issues. Manually setting the fans in xoc, closing xoc, and only using afterburner is the best way to do it.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 23:19:06 (permalink)
    Im so disappointed after Maxwell series with this Pascal. There was great tool for custom bios tweaking in Kepler and Maxwell series. I had Evga GTX 980 Ti reference card and put myself Corsair H90 waterblock on it. With custom bios it ran 1550MHZ core with complete disable boost 2.0 from bios and  8400mhz memory. It was a beast card, so I sold it and thinked thad Pascal will be something same.... But it not... And my Kingpin card performing at 2050MHz  core and 12.5Ghz mem now. And it crashes sometimes because of that boost 3.0. I am not very happy with spending 1150 EUR on card which cannot run with stock curve on 2038mhz just adding 10-15mhz. So all time I need to mess with precision or run msi + precision... Just awesome what to else want to say...
     
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 23:23:31 (permalink)
    May be it was a mistake that I sold my custom made 980Ti.. I tried switches on the bord that adds 25 and 50 mV, but seems it throttling all time because it reaches its broken tdp by the way.. Any body tried those switches?
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/02/21 23:32:32 (permalink)
    Never tried the switches myself.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 07:58:02 (permalink)
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    I believe someone mentioned you can start pxoc just to set the fans at a certain speed and then close it and launch ab and the fan speed would stick?

    This is correct. You can set your fans manually inside xoc, close xoc, start msi afterburner, and overclock from there. 


    I wish this worked for me.  I need XOC open to keep the fans spinning. I think default curve on my 1070 ti FTW Silent doesn't even spin fans at all until after 60C (is this correct btw?) so I notice right away when I close XOC that my custom curve isn't sticking because the fans stop.
     
    It's a pretty unintuitive program so maybe I'm just missing something... took me forever to learn how to make a profile stick lol
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 09:05:36 (permalink)
    Try this
     
    https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2819664
     
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    After enabling your fan curve or making any other Settings/Profile changes, manually close Precision..Otherwise, most settings will not remain and will be lost upon start up..It should probably be okay after you do that.



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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 09:11:05 (permalink)
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    I believe someone mentioned you can start pxoc just to set the fans at a certain speed and then close it and launch ab and the fan speed would stick?

    This is correct. You can set your fans manually inside xoc, close xoc, start msi afterburner, and overclock from there. 


    I wish this worked for me.  I need XOC open to keep the fans spinning. I think default curve on my 1070 ti FTW Silent doesn't even spin fans at all until after 60C (is this correct btw?) so I notice right away when I close XOC that my custom curve isn't sticking because the fans stop.
     
    It's a pretty unintuitive program so maybe I'm just missing something... took me forever to learn how to make a profile stick lol


    Setting your fans manually doesn't require precision to be open. Using a custom fan curve requires precision to be open at all times. Set your fans manually to a static speed and you won't have the problem.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 11:03:53 (permalink)
    Thanks. This is how I get confused because I "manually" set my custom curve to what I want and fail to see a distinction between what you are talking about? How is custom not done manually? And what does "manual" mean in this case? Just static value?
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 11:06:35 (permalink)
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    Thanks. This is how I get confused because I "manually" set my custom curve to what I want and fail to see a distinction between what you are talking about? How is custom not done manually? And what does "manual" mean in this case? Just static value?

    I said static in my previous post.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 11:14:43 (permalink)
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    Thanks. This is how I get confused because I "manually" set my custom curve to what I want and fail to see a distinction between what you are talking about? How is custom not done manually? And what does "manual" mean in this case? Just static value?

    I said static in my previous post.

    Right. You said "manually set to static speed" and maybe I didn't ask the question correctly but I am asking how that is different than manually setting a curve?

    The way I am understanding what you said is that I should keep my line flat at one value across all temperatures when setting fan speeds. I don't see how that would be any different unless either there is a known bug that fails to register a non-static curve OR you could elaborate and help me with what I'm missing. Thanks!
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 11:16:48 (permalink)
    Do not use the fan curve method at all. Set a static speed by adjusting the fan sliders only.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 11:28:03 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Do not use the fan curve method at all. Set a static speed by adjusting the fan sliders only.


    The solution cannot possibly be to have the fan higher and louder than I need it in most situations. That's madness. Guess I'll just leave xoc open anytime I want to game, stress test, benchmark, etc. Thanks for the help, bud. 🍻
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/15 11:34:09 (permalink)
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    Do not use the fan curve method at all. Set a static speed by adjusting the fan sliders only.


    The solution cannot possibly be to have the fan higher and louder than I need it in most situations. That's madness. Guess I'll just leave xoc open anytime I want to game, stress test, benchmark, etc. Thanks for the help, bud. 🍻

    No problem.
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/16 04:29:17 (permalink)
    This thread is about manual overclocking using Voltage frequency curve which has been broken since 6.1.4 haven't tried latest PXOC, not sure how we got talking about fan curves.
     
    So anyone confirm if manual overclocking using the voltage/frequency curve has been fixed like posted by the OP?
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    Re: Precision XOC not save and not apply custom BOOST 3.0 freq/voltage curve in manual mod 2018/05/16 10:08:14 (permalink)
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    This thread is about manual overclocking using Voltage frequency curve which has been broken since 6.1.4 haven't tried latest PXOC, not sure how we got talking about fan curves.

    Most likely because of the following comment from the op...
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    I cannot use MSI afterburner because of stupid ICX fan control and Afterburner dont understand each fan.



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