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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 04:18:11 (permalink)
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Thanks for the great news, will try it tonight

The great news will be when we a get the official Bios from EVGA, with 320 watt power target or even 310 watt is fine. .

Not likely. EVGA is losing their lunch on these cheap Black cards due to NVIDIA's forced pricing licensing deal. EVGA wants nothing to do with making the cards' performance more competitive compared to their higher priced cards. Allegedly, after interviews and research, Gamers Nexus determined that AIB partners may make as much/little as $20 per card sold. The only reason why AIB partners sell these cheap cards at virtually no profit is because they don't have a choice and they have to sell them in order for NVIDIA to license them the RTX line and allow them to sell other RTX products.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 04:50:41 (permalink)
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Thanks for the great news, will try it tonight

The great news will be when we a get the official Bios from EVGA, with 320 watt power target or even 310 watt is fine. .

Not likely. EVGA is losing their lunch on these cheap Black cards due to NVIDIA's forced pricing licensing deal. EVGA wants nothing to do with making the cards' performance more competitive compared to their higher priced cards. Allegedly, after interviews and research, Gamers Nexus determined that AIB partners may make as much/little as $20 per card sold. The only reason why AIB partners sell these cheap cards at virtually no profit is because they don't have a choice and they have to sell them in order for NVIDIA to license them the RTX line and allow them to sell other RTX products.



This already been said earlier, we are not asking for a card with higher core and memory frequency, we know those a for the more expensive cards, we only want a card with higher power limit for more stability with default clock's.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 06:00:44 (permalink)
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Thanks for the great news, will try it tonight

The great news will be when we a get the official Bios from EVGA, with 320 watt power target or even 310 watt is fine. .

Not likely. EVGA is losing their lunch on these cheap Black cards due to NVIDIA's forced pricing licensing deal. EVGA wants nothing to do with making the cards' performance more competitive compared to their higher priced cards. Allegedly, after interviews and research, Gamers Nexus determined that AIB partners may make as much/little as $20 per card sold. The only reason why AIB partners sell these cheap cards at virtually no profit is because they don't have a choice and they have to sell them in order for NVIDIA to license them the RTX line and allow them to sell other RTX products.



This already been said earlier, we are not asking for a card with higher core and memory frequency, we know those a for the more expensive cards, we only want a card with higher power limit for more stability with default clock's.

And again, this is not in EVGA's interest. Core frequency is directly related to power limit. Memory frequency is mostly just luck of the draw once power limit isn't a concern. Saying you want higher power limit ultimately means that you want to be able to sustain a higher core frequency and possibly achieve a higher memory frequency. This would cut into EVGA's higher-end products which are specifically designed and sold based on those capabilities.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 07:01:13 (permalink)
Clock speed should not matter as these cards don't have the -a chip? So even with higher power limit, these won't reach higher end products clock speeds?

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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 09:18:53 (permalink)
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Clock speed should not matter as these cards don't have the -a chip? So even with higher power limit, these won't reach higher end products clock speeds?


Cards with non-a chips shouldn't overclock as well as cards with -a chips.

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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 17:50:27 (permalink)
Be it as it may, EVGA has no incentive (for the reasons mentioned) to spend any time or money to improving a product that makes them nearly no money and they are only selling because they were forced by contractual obligation. Don't hold your breath. On the other hand, EVGA has a strong incentive to not give you what you want (for the reasons mentioned). So, there you go.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 18:20:09 (permalink)
It's probably in EVGAs best interest to give it's customers what they want if they can. Happy customers come back to buy new cards from EVGA in the future.:) It's not always about the immediate profits.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/22 18:30:44 (permalink)
Seven months later, keep holding out hope.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/23 19:14:52 (permalink)
EVGA? can you please give us an estimated time of when we are getting the new BIOS for Black edition 2080 Ti 11G-P4-2281-KR? your people are still waiting, Thanks.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 04:57:28 (permalink)
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EVGA? can you please give us an estimated time of when we are getting the new BIOS for Black edition 2080 Ti 11G-P4-2281-KR? your people are still waiting, Thanks.

An estimate: When? Never. "The new BIOS"? Which new BIOS? There is no new BIOS for you from EVGA.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 09:09:19 (permalink)
Feeling stupid here. Is this an A chip or a non A chip. This IS a 2080TI black.
 


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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 09:16:22 (permalink)
This is a non A chip. The A chip has the A letter written after the number 300.  "TU102-300A ....."
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 09:37:43 (permalink)
EVGA never said they were giving the Black Edition a new power limit vBIOS.  The card is cheap for a reason, and it's a non-A chip.  It's my understanding that Nvidia and OEMs purposely segmented the market with A and non-A chips.  Similar to Intel selling K and non K SKU CPUs.  As it has already been mentioned clockspeeds, maximal boost values, etc are directly related to power limit to a point and by giving the Black Edition card a higher PWL then it would very likely boost to similar if not higher boost clocks depending on silicon lottery than A chips. 
 
Those that paid for a higher end SKU such as the XC, XC Ultra, and FTW3 would be super pissed that their $1400 GPU isn't performing at a higher level after forking out $200-400 more.  They would also have huge difficultly selling a card at $400 more than a card that performs similarly or better at $400 less.  By segmenting the market this way, OEMs can create a larger product stack and sell cards at differing prices.  I don't fully agree with this but I see why it's been done in the interest of OEMs and being able to sell differing value cards.  
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 12:37:48 (permalink)
That's why I always buy the top card.. if you dont care about overclocking buy whatever.

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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 12:48:35 (permalink)
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EVGA never said they were giving the Black Edition a new power limit vBIOS.  The card is cheap for a reason, and it's a non-A chip.  It's my understanding that Nvidia and OEMs purposely segmented the market with A and non-A chips.  Similar to Intel selling K and non K SKU CPUs.  As it has already been mentioned clockspeeds, maximal boost values, etc are directly related to power limit to a point and by giving the Black Edition card a higher PWL then it would very likely boost to similar if not higher boost clocks depending on silicon lottery than A chips. 
 
Those that paid for a higher end SKU such as the XC, XC Ultra, and FTW3 would be super pissed that their $1400 GPU isn't performing at a higher level after forking out $200-400 more.  They would also have huge difficultly selling a card at $400 more than a card that performs similarly or better at $400 less.  By segmenting the market this way, OEMs can create a larger product stack and sell cards at differing prices.  I don't fully agree with this but I see why it's been done in the interest of OEMs and being able to sell differing value cards.  





 
I say buy what you want and can afford. 
 
I stuck with the 2080 Ti Black and boosts to 1860hz-1875hz w/out OCing it.  I have OC'd it in the past via auto tuner and it barely gets over 2000mhz but wasn't stable.  I'm guessing it's the power limit of 112% but all is well because I only care about gaming on it than benchmarking.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 16:48:28 (permalink)
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 17:35:07 (permalink)
Possibilities here... Watch both before trying anything.
youtube video how to ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsEK1-MBqdk&t=307s
youtube video clarification ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=D9b13WWGPtE
Bios flash RTX more info ==> https://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/how_to_flash_rtx_bios/
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/04/24 21:18:48 (permalink)
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Possibilities here... Watch both before tying anything.
youtube video how to ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsEK1-MBqdk&t=307s
youtube video clarification ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=D9b13WWGPtE
Bios flash RTX more info ==> https://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/how_to_flash_rtx_bios/


Yeah, flashing to an unofficial BIOS has already been covered in this thread. See page 2. It's an option. It's not officially supported, but it's an option.

Now, we are on page 3 of this thread. Page 3 is about:

leghmoh
The great news will be when we a get the official Bios from EVGA, with 320 watt power target or even 310 watt is fine. .


If you didn't already read page 2, maybe that quote doesn't make sense. If you did already read page 2, then you will see that you are repeating page 2 all over again.

Some people aren't comfortable using an unofficial, unsupported BIOS which voids their video card's warranty during the duration that it is 'installed' on their video card. To those people, I say sorry because EVGA is unlikely to develop and release the BIOS update that they are hoping for.
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/05/06 21:54:40 (permalink)
Hello EVGA, you people are still waiting for a good bios for the 2080 ti black edition, 
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/07/24 05:13:57 (permalink)
Sorry for necroposting guys, I need the 124 % bios but the link you posted are no longer online.
Do you know where can I find the bios? (or can you please send the rom to me?)
 
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/07/24 10:03:08 (permalink)
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Sorry for necroposting guys, I need the 124 % bios but the link you posted are no longer online.
Do you know where can I find the bios? (or can you please send the rom to me?)
 
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/11/11 19:08:52 (permalink)
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Hi, i purchased a 2080 ti black edition, this is a good card, but, the power target is locked at 112%, only 297 watts max ! i can't Overclock as i want, do you know if a new bios coming for the black edition ? Thx all and sorry for my bad english.


Just on on overclock dot net and search for this:
 
Bios Flash for EVGA RTX 2080TI Black Edition -- Non A (non binned) Part #11G-P4-2281-KR

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Bios Flash for EVGA RTX 2080TI Black Edition -- Non A (non binned) Part #11G-P4-2281-KR
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/11/11 19:19:32 (permalink)
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Hi, i purchased a 2080 ti black edition, this is a good card, but, the power target is locked at 112%, only 297 watts max ! i can't Overclock as i want, do you know if a new bios coming for the black edition ? Thx all and sorry for my bad english.


Just on on overclock dot net and search for this:
 
Bios Flash for EVGA RTX 2080TI Black Edition -- Non A (non binned) Part #11G-P4-2281-KR


Please keep in mind that because the BIOS worked for you it may not work for everyone and we do not recommend flashing an unsupported BIOS that we did not release. Directing other people to flash their cards could potentially brick the card. 

 
 
 
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/11/11 19:29:47 (permalink)
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Hi, i purchased a 2080 ti black edition, this is a good card, but, the power target is locked at 112%, only 297 watts max ! i can't Overclock as i want, do you know if a new bios coming for the black edition ? Thx all and sorry for my bad english.


Just on on overclock dot net and search for this:
 
Bios Flash for EVGA RTX 2080TI Black Edition -- Non A (non binned) Part #11G-P4-2281-KR


Please keep in mind that because the BIOS worked for you it may not work for everyone and we do not recommend flashing an unsupported BIOS that we did not release. Directing other people to flash their cards could potentially brick the card. 




Yes, we all know we could brick anything with flashing a Bios. We could brick our Motherboard, GPUs, Game Consoles, and many other things. Just like the post specifies.
We can even brick devices with OFFICIAL releases as you also might be aware.
 
I tested this in the 2 ones that I have. Both worked like a charm! This also worked for my friend skrooge. 125% unlocked for both of us! hmmm well, 124% to be more precise. 
Overclocking this card with out being able to regulate the power, is useless!!! Very little gain. 
 
With this flash, this changes everything.
 
Also, the only reason why this was never released, is because Nvidia doesn't want the non BINNED chips to be as goon as the binned chips for marketing reasons (evil).
 
Just because we own the cheapest RTX in existence, doesn't mean we can't beat the premium ones!

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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/11/11 20:07:38 (permalink)
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Yes, we all know we could brick anything with flashing a Bios. We could brick our Motherboard, GPUs, Game Consoles, and many other things. Just like the post specifies.
We can even brick devices with OFFICIAL releases as you also might be aware.
 
I tested this in the 2 ones that I have. Both worked like a charm! This also worked for my friend skrooge. 125% unlocked for both of us! hmmm well, 124% to be more precise. 
Overclocking this card with out being able to regulate the power, is useless!!! Very little gain. 
 
With this flash, this changes everything.
 
Also, the only reason why this was never released, is because Nvidia doesn't want the non BINNED chips to be as goon as the binned chips for marketing reasons (evil).
 
Just because we own the cheapest RTX in existence, doesn't mean we can't beat the premium ones!


This is in regards to the warranty. An unsupported BIOS flash that bricks the card or potentially damages it is listed under our warranty terms and could void it. We do not recommend our forum users to tell others to flash a custom BIOS due to this, so I guess it would be okay if someone bricks their card with your directions to reach out to you for support?
 
I just think it's risky to provide such advice. If a BIOS we released bricked the card, we would assist as we the manufacturer are releasing it. Just my two cents. 

 
 
 
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/11/12 18:01:51 (permalink)
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Yes, we all know we could brick anything with flashing a Bios. We could brick our Motherboard, GPUs, Game Consoles, and many other things. Just like the post specifies.
We can even brick devices with OFFICIAL releases as you also might be aware.
 
I tested this in the 2 ones that I have. Both worked like a charm! This also worked for my friend skrooge. 125% unlocked for both of us! hmmm well, 124% to be more precise. 
Overclocking this card with out being able to regulate the power, is useless!!! Very little gain. 
 
With this flash, this changes everything.
 
Also, the only reason why this was never released, is because Nvidia doesn't want the non BINNED chips to be as goon as the binned chips for marketing reasons (evil).
 
Just because we own the cheapest RTX in existence, doesn't mean we can't beat the premium ones!


This is in regards to the warranty. An unsupported BIOS flash that bricks the card or potentially damages it is listed under our warranty terms and could void it. We do not recommend our forum users to tell others to flash a custom BIOS due to this, so I guess it would be okay if someone bricks their card with your directions to reach out to you for support?
 
I just think it's risky to provide such advice. If a BIOS we released bricked the card, we would assist as we the manufacturer are releasing it. Just my two cents. 




I totally understand your point, that's why every bios mod (galax and others) will always come with a disclaimer. Even official releases come with a disclaimer!
 
But for those who DARE taking the risk to unleash the true power of the card which has been bottle necked by the software for all this time, have the right to know the true story.
 
How many people in all forums have requested a solution for the RTX 2080 ti black edition? TONS of people!
 
How many people in all forums were given the answer (impossible, you don't have a binned chip)? All of the people who asked! (they were told lies from people who don't know better(people that can't read assembly code++ or don't try to understand/problem solve))
 
In my opinion, the answer IMPOSSIBLE is inappropriate, unfair a lie and unhelpful to those who really want the truth and real solution to their problem.
 
Well, for those sad owners of the power restricted RTX 2080 ti Black, they now have an option!!!! 
 
It worked for me (2 cards) it worked for my friend. I wouldn't have posted this possibility if it didn't.
 
The people have the right to know the possibilities. Weather they want to take the risk or not, is their decision.
 
I can assure you, I am 100% happy I took the chance!!!! My cheap RTX 2080 ti BLACK is unlocked!!!! YAY, overclocking actually makes a difference now! I can actually surpass the top dogs! (excluding kingpin(galax possible) and titan of course).
 
If it wasn't for people taking these risks(testing like me)this information wouldn't be available to the public.
 
But yeah, I took the chance, I am glad I did, and here's the information in Yo Faces !!!!
 
Enjoy !
 
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/11/12 20:10:15 (permalink)
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I've tried the BIOS, it's even worse than the normal one for some reason, the clock drops back down to 1800 compared to 2000 on normal BIOS and the fan is stuck at 2200 rather than 3200 for on normal BIOS, plus I cannot change the LED colors. Anyone got a solution?




 
This is correct. You will definitely want a water cooler. The reason why the clock is not holding is because the palit bios can't crank these fans all the way, as you said yourself. This bios update will only make a huge difference if you water cool it. It can be done for less than $200 Dollars with a NZXT AIO and a g12 adapter :D.
 
I am actually edditing the bios rom right now, I should find a fix in a couple of weeks, and I will flash my own card with the modded rom (fan fix). Once I achieve this, I will upload an AIR bios for 124% for our card! Should be fine at 3200RPM. Although I like my gpy below 55cº
 
Dude, I am getting 1600's on timespy with this bios +H20 ! And that's because I am being REALLY conservative! When I have my AC ducts blowing on my radiator this weekend, I will push it very hard.
 
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If you want to stay on air, don't do it! ... The fan speed will become too slow to maintain low temps, therefore the card will throttle itself because of thermals.





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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2019/11/18 06:30:38 (permalink)
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williamcll
I've tried the BIOS, it's even worse than the normal one for some reason, the clock drops back down to 1800 compared to 2000 on normal BIOS and the fan is stuck at 2200 rather than 3200 for on normal BIOS, plus I cannot change the LED colors. Anyone got a solution?




 
This is correct. You will definitely want a water cooler. The reason why the clock is not holding is because the palit bios can't crank these fans all the way, as you said yourself. This bios update will only make a huge difference if you water cool it. It can be done for less than $200 Dollars with a NZXT AIO and a g12 adapter :D.
 
I am actually edditing the bios rom right now, I should find a fix in a couple of weeks, and I will flash my own card with the modded rom (fan fix). Once I achieve this, I will upload an AIR bios for 124% for our card! Should be fine at 3200RPM. Although I like my gpy below 55cº
 
Dude, I am getting 1600's on timespy with this bios +H20 ! And that's because I am being REALLY conservative! When I have my AC ducts blowing on my radiator this weekend, I will push it very hard.
 
<3
 
If you want to stay on air, don't do it! ... The fan speed will become too slow to maintain low temps, therefore the card will throttle itself because of thermals.






Best of luck, I don't have the money to get a cooling loop for my black and I'm saving up my money for a CPU upgrade, I can't wait for your BIOS release, will it come with addressable RGB?
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2020/01/06 06:07:26 (permalink)
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I've tried the BIOS, it's even worse than the normal one for some reason, the clock drops back down to 1800 compared to 2000 on normal BIOS and the fan is stuck at 2200 rather than 3200 for on normal BIOS, plus I cannot change the LED colors. Anyone got a solution?




I am actually edditing the bios rom right now, I should find a fix in a couple of weeks, and I will flash my own card with the modded rom (fan fix). Once I achieve this, I will upload an AIR bios for 124% for our card! Should be fine at 3200RPM. Although I like my gpy below 55cº
 
 


This would be cool.  I'm on the fence whether or not to sell my ti black.  Had I known about the two chip variants when I purchased my card in February I would have certainly paid the difference for an A chip. 
 
On another note I had a somewhat terrifying experience flashing the Palit bios.  After I discovered that I couldn't crank the fans past 2k~ RPMs I flashed the black bios from backup and got an 'adapter not supported' error.  I said yolo and flashed it anyway.  Both monitors went black and the gpu fans took off.  I waited about 10 minutes before I killed the power.  Everything reverted and works now but still -- I nearly soiled myself :(
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Re: Power Target, A new bios for 2080 ti Black ? 11G-P4-2281-KR 2020/01/06 10:03:30 (permalink)
that is one reason flashing cards with only one BIOS is Not recommended ... if that flash had fail, you would have needed special hardware to attempt recovery - or - ended up with an expensive paper weight

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