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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 11:32:44
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Hmm... that's not the way it's supposed to be... which I guess says something in of itself? (I want to be optimistic about how this topic will progress but... pessimism is winning) I'm not trying to be a "harbringer of threadlocking" Ideally I'd like to see this topic work well and not fall off into unpleasent space (though perhaps I've just contributed to that anyway) "6 Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe." "6 Black people were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe." I'd say both would be bad, and there's no need to pick just one of the two and draw battles lines because of it. Though I have to admit I'm scared people will feel like they have too.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 13:02:24
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That doesn't shock me 1 bit, But does shock me is that it happened in ARIZONA!!! The most gun friendly state, which should also be police friendly. You'd think this happened in New York or California.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 17:36:44
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It's just a lack of respect and civility in general these days ... with all the divisiveness, the Fourth of July just didn't collectively feel (personally) like "We the People" this year.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 17:45:55
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I just wonder how safe they would feel without any police around. I'm just not getting this.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 18:11:35
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It seems kind of harsh, but there is always a reason behind a story...and for being safe? there is no safe place on earth. There are shootings, bombings, etc. around the world, schools, churches, malls, name it. Define a safe place.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 21:30:53
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krane I just wonder how safe they would feel without any police around. I'm just not getting this.
Exactly. That the Starbucks barista went along with it is insane. The same idiot customer that did this would be screaming murder if the cops just stood by and watched them get robbed. Starbucks owner there better hope he doesn't have an armed robbery in the near future, lol. I wonder, if I went into a Starbucks and said I have a problem being in there with anyone else being there, would they tell everyone to leave? If not, why not?
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 21:33:14
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atfrico It seems kind of harsh, but there is always a reason behind a story...and for being safe? there is no safe place on earth. There are shootings, bombings, etc. around the world, schools, churches, malls, name it. Define a safe place.
Apparently some universities in CA have 'safe spaces', but it's only for little snowflakes who have not learned what most of us learned when we were like 3 years old.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/06 23:24:11
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Looks like Starbucks corporate office did not like what the local management did, and apologizes the the whole police department. Good for them. Bet it was some pimple face kid with an authority issue wanted them out https://www.foxnews.com/us/starbucks-apologizes-after-police-officers-asked-to-leave-shop-because-of-customer-complaint "Starbucks apologized to the Tempe, Ariz., police department after some of its officers were asked to leave from one of its shops on the Fourth of July following complaints from a customer who said they didn't feel safe with cops present. The coffee giant apologized for any "misunderstanding or inappropriate behavior that may have taken place" and said it has "deep respect for the Tempe Police Department." The company went further on Saturday, with Rossann Williams, executive vice president, president U.S. retail, writing to the Tempe Police Department: "On behalf of Starbucks, I want to sincerely apologize to you all for the experience that six of your officers had in our store on July 4. When those officers entered the store and a customer raised a concern over their presence, they should have been welcomed and treated with dignity and the utmost respect by our partners (employees). Instead they were made to feel unwelcome and disrespected, which is completely unacceptable." "
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 02:12:13
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I guess it depends on the situation as to be the right call in this situation. Someone might like police officers in general but have had a negative interaction with one of the officers and felt unsafe. Or it could be a lawyer who has a client arrested by one of the officers and wants to avoid him. The manager though should have handled it better but I feel that situations can come up in which both sides are right and it can be hard to know what the right thing to do it unless all the facts are known and even then people can make the wrong call.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 04:27:43
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Hoggle I guess it depends on the situation as to be the right call in this situation. Someone might like police officers in general but have had a negative interaction with one of the officers and felt unsafe. Or it could be a lawyer who has a client arrested by one of the officers and wants to avoid him. The manager though should have handled it better but I feel that situations can come up in which both sides are right and it can be hard to know what the right thing to do it unless all the facts are known and even then people can make the wrong call.
Neither of your examples warrants this, think a little harder, Hoggle. Also, He felt unsafe only because he the cops were in his line of sight, that's it, nothing more nothing less.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 04:49:30
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Hoggle I guess it depends on the situation as to be the right call in this situation. Someone might like police officers in general but have had a negative interaction with one of the officers and felt unsafe. Or it could be a lawyer who has a client arrested by one of the officers and wants to avoid him. The manager though should have handled it better but I feel that situations can come up in which both sides are right and it can be hard to know what the right thing to do it unless all the facts are known and even then people can make the wrong call.
Neither of your examples warrants this, think a little harder, Hoggle. Also, He felt unsafe only because he the cops were in his line of sight, that's it, nothing more nothing less.
I agree JGLuxe, if this person felt uncomfortable then they themselves should have moved or left.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 04:52:46
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This is absolute garbage. This person wasn't uncomfortable. This person was using his power as a leftist to force someone he didn't like (And that's all it is..dislike of the police) to leave. It should never be allowed, or the uncomfortable person should be asked to leave. Had I been there I would have started telling the store off and demanding a refund as I dumped it all over the counter .. Starbucks will never get any more money from me.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 08:15:06
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haven't been to starbucks since they had a problem with licensed conceal carry individuals. since 2013
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 09:43:21
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I stopped going to Starbucks a long time ago, this latest bs just reaffirms my decision.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 10:31:39
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I could say a lot of things here that would probably 'trigger' some people and violate ToS so I'll leave it alone BUT what I will say, when criminals hear this type of news, they start drooling. Good luck world! As one wise man once said... ...and he don't mean the 4 legged furry friends as pets... Ok I'm done for now! Have a beautiful day!
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 10:34:09
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I just have to wonder what the Employee training looks like & where was the Manager ? Why would any Customer that is not breaking any laws or harassing anyone be asked to leave
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 11:03:05
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Another triggered snowflake who is living in his mommy's basement.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 11:05:50
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Cool GTX Why would any Customer that is not breaking any laws or harassing anyone be asked to leave
Because of the perpetually offended left. Of course if it had been a group of masked antifa fascists swinging bike locks, spewing hatred and threatening people, it would not have been a problem.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 12:30:24
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My son is a NYPD police Sgt. but when he was an officer he had some stories, but he was never asked to leave a store or business because he made someone feel uncomfortable. It's really a strange time we live in now.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 14:25:46
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krane My son is a NYPD police Sgt. but when he was an officer he had some stories, but he was never asked to leave a store or business because he made someone feel uncomfortable. It's really a strange time we live in now.
Is he with the 70th Precinct? We've had a lot of problems in our neighborhood recently - used to be a very safe area. I don't envy the NYPD at the moment - the NY courts are letting many crims walk free or with next to zero punishment, driven by Gov. Cuomo trying to cut down the jail population and an extremely liberal DeBlasio and court judges. Very frustrating for those who are trying to uphold the law.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 14:38:25
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krane My son is a NYPD police Sgt. but when he was an officer he had some stories, but he was never asked to leave a store or business because he made someone feel uncomfortable. It's really a strange time we live in now.
Is he with the 70th Precinct? We've had a lot of problems in our neighborhood recently - used to be a very safe area. I don't envy the NYPD at the moment - the NY courts are letting many crims walk free or with next to zero punishment, driven by Gov. Cuomo trying to cut down the jail population and an extremely liberal DeBlasio and court judges. Very frustrating for those who are trying to uphold the law.
Actually he was in the 70th pct for a while, then he became a SGT. and went to Staten Island, He's in a safer position and he says his guys take a bit of abuse now and then. He is very glad for the new body cameras so we can see everything instead of "Your word against mine" situations.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 14:44:25
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1. Clicked on the link 2. Saw an adblock warning popup before I got to finish reading the title 3. Closed the page
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 14:57:25
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a213m 1. Clicked on the link 2. Saw an adblock warning popup before I got to finish reading the title 3. Closed the page
I didn't get that, I'm sorry. You can just look up the title and it will come up.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 15:05:43
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krane My son is a NYPD police Sgt. but when he was an officer he had some stories, but he was never asked to leave a store or business because he made someone feel uncomfortable. It's really a strange time we live in now.
Is he with the 70th Precinct? We've had a lot of problems in our neighborhood recently - used to be a very safe area. I don't envy the NYPD at the moment - the NY courts are letting many crims walk free or with next to zero punishment, driven by Gov. Cuomo trying to cut down the jail population and an extremely liberal DeBlasio and court judges. Very frustrating for those who are trying to uphold the law.
Actually he was in the 70th pct for a while, then he became a SGT. and went to Staten Island, He's in a safer position and he says his guys take a bit of abuse now and then. He is very glad for the new body cameras so we can see everything instead of "Your word against mine" situations.
Staten Island is full of retired NYPD and FDNY, don't seem to have much problems there compared to the rest of NYC boroughs. Coincidentally, strong Red base there, unlike the rest of NYC... Yes the body cams are great, so many cases where the Police are accused of crap they never did, and the MSM always seem to side against them and so many of the sheep public believe whatever the MSM feeds them. It's also good for the public because there are always going to be a few bad apples that will abuse their authority no matter what the job is, so it's a win-win - except for the bad guys. :)
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 15:06:20
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krane My son is a NYPD police Sgt. but when he was an officer he had some stories, but he was never asked to leave a store or business because he made someone feel uncomfortable. It's really a strange time we live in now.
Is he with the 70th Precinct? We've had a lot of problems in our neighborhood recently - used to be a very safe area. I don't envy the NYPD at the moment - the NY courts are letting many crims walk free or with next to zero punishment, driven by Gov. Cuomo trying to cut down the jail population and an extremely liberal DeBlasio and court judges. Very frustrating for those who are trying to uphold the law.
just a reminder not go there with political comments.
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 15:08:04
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krane My son is a NYPD police Sgt. but when he was an officer he had some stories, but he was never asked to leave a store or business because he made someone feel uncomfortable. It's really a strange time we live in now.
Is he with the 70th Precinct? We've had a lot of problems in our neighborhood recently - used to be a very safe area. I don't envy the NYPD at the moment - the NY courts are letting many crims walk free or with next to zero punishment, driven by Gov. Cuomo trying to cut down the jail population and an extremely liberal DeBlasio and court judges. Very frustrating for those who are trying to uphold the law.
just a reminder not go there with political comments.
Oops, ok. :x
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 15:12:30
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 16:59:12
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T hose who abuse power, are nothing but scumbags! The challenge of power is how to use it and not abuse it. The abuse of power that seems to create the most unhappiness is when a person uses personal power to get ahead without regards to the welfare of others, people are obsessed with it. You can take a nice person and turn them into a slob, into an insane being, craving power, destroying anything that stands in their way. Affiliate Code: 3T15O1S07G
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Re: Police officers were asked to leave a Starbucks for making customers feel unsafe.
2019/07/07 17:12:25
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LOL
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