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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/14 19:03:09 (permalink)
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Ah. Well considering most games use Single-Threaded performance, there isn't really gonna be a CPU that won't bottleneck those cards in some games at 1080p. If you maxed out Crysis 3 100% your CPU wouldn't be bottlenecked whatsoever. What games were you experiencing bottlenecks in?

Mainly Battlefield and some crappy games like Far Cry 3 and Far Cry Blood Dragon. Some games, like Tomb Raider, were great. 
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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/16 01:10:51 (permalink)
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Thanks again for all the information.  Really interested in that PhysX test.  I don't know why but can't seem to find that information anywhere.  Metro is one of my favorite franchises and it plays in slow motion on my AMD 5970.  I think it will play much better on Nvidia.  They said back in 2009 that PhysX was dead but here we are in 2013 and Batman and Metro still use it.  Metro plays really poorly on my AMD 5970 even with a nice overclock.




Done with PhysX testing using a Titan.  I made a new thread for it:
 
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2078139#2078139
 
So, I take back what i said earlier in this thread: A Titan is NOT overkill for a PhysX engine!  Though, the ROI (Return on Investment) would have to be questioned.  Hehe.

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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/16 05:59:21 (permalink)
I have a single card build and I was waiting on a GTX 780 Ti Classified but this is making me think that I should get a 780 and then upgrade again in a year or so? 

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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/16 08:51:05 (permalink)
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I have a single card build and I was waiting on a GTX 780 Ti Classified but this is making me think that I should get a 780 and then upgrade again in a year or so? 



Yeah, I have that bad effect on some people - making them think (if I had any influence at all).  
 
I'd just say that it all depends on your budget.  Personally, I paid Nvidia's Premium for the top-of-the-line card twice (for two 780 Classifieds).  Only to see them drop an insane amount a few weeks later.  I've been following Nvidia's release schedule for a while and told myself I wouldn't dare pay the premium price they ask for these things, especially if you just wait 6 to 9 months and they will drop.  I knew this would happen, but I did it anyways and still felt bad about it.
 
But that's just me. I value my dollars more than some others (4-way Titans on tri-4k monitors?!?!  WHOA!).
 
The used Titans I felt is a very good buy right now, especially with the 6 GB of ram as RAM was one of two reasons I upgraded from my very-happy-to-have 3-way GTX 580 Hydrocoppers with 3GB.  The other being PCie 3.0 for my 6000x1080 resolution.
 
But, it's still a lot of money though.  So only you can budget.

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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/16 10:32:35 (permalink)
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I have a single card build and I was waiting on a GTX 780 Ti Classified but this is making me think that I should get a 780 and then upgrade again in a year or so? 



Yeah, I have that bad effect on some people - making them think (if I had any influence at all).  
 
I'd just say that it all depends on your budget.  Personally, I paid Nvidia's Premium for the top-of-the-line card twice (for two 780 Classifieds).  Only to see them drop an insane amount a few weeks later.  I've been following Nvidia's release schedule for a while and told myself I wouldn't dare pay the premium price they ask for these things, especially if you just wait 6 to 9 months and they will drop.  I knew this would happen, but I did it anyways and still felt bad about it.
 
But that's just me. I value my dollars more than some others (4-way Titans on tri-4k monitors?!?!  WHOA!).
 
The used Titans I felt is a very good buy right now, especially with the 6 GB of ram as RAM was one of two reasons I upgraded from my very-happy-to-have 3-way GTX 580 Hydrocoppers with 3GB.  The other being PCie 3.0 for my 6000x1080 resolution.
 
But, it's still a lot of money though.  So only you can budget.

As I tell everyone that wants me to build them a gaming system: pick your budget first, and I will fit the best system within that budget.  That's my advice to you and everyone else here: pick your budget first (if there is a budget).



After reading this whole thread, I have a little bit of regret I didn't try and find a used Titan for the price I'm paying for my 780 Ti Classified that should be dropped off by the big brown truck later today... Hopefully I get a pretty nice card that I can overclock without too much voltage, since everything except my CPU is running on air. I expect I'll upgrade within a year or two because I simply won't have enough VRAM :/
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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/16 11:17:18 (permalink)
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I have a single card build and I was waiting on a GTX 780 Ti Classified but this is making me think that I should get a 780 and then upgrade again in a year or so? 



Yeah, I have that bad effect on some people - making them think (if I had any influence at all).  
 
I'd just say that it all depends on your budget.  Personally, I paid Nvidia's Premium for the top-of-the-line card twice (for two 780 Classifieds).  Only to see them drop an insane amount a few weeks later.  I've been following Nvidia's release schedule for a while and told myself I wouldn't dare pay the premium price they ask for these things, especially if you just wait 6 to 9 months and they will drop.  I knew this would happen, but I did it anyways and still felt bad about it.
 
But that's just me. I value my dollars more than some others (4-way Titans on tri-4k monitors?!?!  WHOA!).
 
The used Titans I felt is a very good buy right now, especially with the 6 GB of ram as RAM was one of two reasons I upgraded from my very-happy-to-have 3-way GTX 580 Hydrocoppers with 3GB.  The other being PCie 3.0 for my 6000x1080 resolution.
 
But, it's still a lot of money though.  So only you can budget.

As I tell everyone that wants me to build them a gaming system: pick your budget first, and I will fit the best system within that budget.  That's my advice to you and everyone else here: pick your budget first (if there is a budget).



After reading this whole thread, I have a little bit of regret I didn't try and find a used Titan for the price I'm paying for my 780 Ti Classified that should be dropped off by the big brown truck later today... Hopefully I get a pretty nice card that I can overclock without too much voltage, since everything except my CPU is running on air. I expect I'll upgrade within a year or two because I simply won't have enough VRAM :/




I'd say you won't have much regret in terms of speed.  For how close the 780 Tis are, stock BIOS and reference cooler, to my custom-BIOS flashed + backplate-to-cool-rear-memory mods on my Titan is is very very close (I can still beat them, but just b-a-r-e-l-y.  
 
With that said, I'm willing the bet $5 PayPal the higher PowerTarget + Clocks + Cooling you'll get with the 780 Ti Classified will just eek past my custom Titans - on the stock Ti Classified LN2 BIOS!  That is what holds most of the 780 Ti guys back from beating my modded Titans - power targets and temps, which both are addressed better with the 780 Ti Classified.
 
So I wouldn't regret too much.  just wait until they release the custom modded BIOS for the 780 Ti Classified - that's all you'll need to really beat the Titans.
 
The only reason to get the Titans for me was the rear exhaust since I must run two of them with my 5760x1080 surround.  That, and the Double Precision for my AutoCAD/Photoshop (eh, ever so slight) and finally the 6GB of ram.  I am willing to sacrifice performance for the other stuff.
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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/16 12:12:16 (permalink)
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I'd say you won't have much regret in terms of speed.  For how close the 780 Tis are, stock BIOS and reference cooler, to my custom-BIOS flashed + backplate-to-cool-rear-memory mods on my Titan is is very very close (I can still beat them, but just b-a-r-e-l-y.  
 
With that said, I'm willing the bet $5 PayPal the higher PowerTarget + Clocks + Cooling you'll get with the 780 Ti Classified will just eek past my custom Titans - on the stock Ti Classified LN2 BIOS!  That is what holds most of the 780 Ti guys back from beating my modded Titans - power targets and temps, which both are addressed better with the 780 Ti Classified.
 
So I wouldn't regret too much.  just wait until they release the custom modded BIOS for the 780 Ti Classified - that's all you'll need to really beat the Titans.
 
The only reason to get the Titans for me was the rear exhaust since I must run two of them with my 5760x1080 surround.  That, and the Double Precision for my AutoCAD/Photoshop (eh, ever so slight) and finally the 6GB of ram.  I am willing to sacrifice performance for the other stuff.



I'm hoping the higher power target, LN2 BIOS, and the cooling will get me some high clocks, but I just know that in a year or two, I'm going to be running on medium-medium high settings to keep the FPS at an acceptable number, simply because 3GB VRAM is already being exceeded on a lot of current games. My saving grace, I suppose, is that I'm only running a single monitor at 1920x1080.

I expect I'll upgrade to a 900 series Classified, assuming they'll have sufficient VRAM for the then-current games. If NVIDIA sticks with a Titan series for a line of higher VRAM cards and sticks with their Feb-March release, by the time the 900 series Classified comes out, I could find a deal on a used "Titan 3" right around this time two years from now.

I could have done it a bit differently, but for this being my first build, I'm probably going to be very happy with the 780 Ti Classified for quite a while.
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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/16 13:12:28 (permalink)
On a single monitor, oh yeah 3 GB is fine for a good long long many many years. I keep forgetting about the single-monitor friends out there. My head too wrapped up in surround and vram usage of 6.2 Megapixels! He he.

Yeah, please everyone, we talk mostly about surround gaming here which is less than 0.1% of all gamers . Single monitors even 2650x1440, as just fine at 3 GB for a long time.

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Re: Picking a 780 2013/12/17 16:54:05 (permalink)
My vote is for some used Titans. They will definitely last you longer that any other 3GB Video Card .

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