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EK was kind enough to use the same threading on their waterblock as Nvidia used on their reference cooler. so mounting the stock backplate onto the EK waterblock is super easy this is why I only buy EK stuff. they are very thoughtful. they could have easily used different threading on the waterblock to force you to buy their backplate. the stock backplate screws have to be screwed into the cooler's screws.  
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 03:56:58
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Did you just use the stand offs that were under the stock backplate? I definitely did not think to do that. I also like the ekwb backplate much more than the stock backplate.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 04:15:34
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Photo reminds me of getting of new puppy...................have to have pee pads when you get it home.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 10:44:22
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Did you just use the stand offs that were under the stock backplate? I definitely did not think to do that.
I also like the ekwb backplate much more than the stock backplate.
yes, used the stand off's. those weird hex bolts with holes for smaller screws inside them, have the same threading as what EK uses on this block, M2.5. I tested this by using one of the M2.5 nuts EK included with the waterblock. it was a perfect fit. and the length was about the same too. there is no question that the EK back plate is nice. but what isn't nice is the $50+ price tag, with shipping, from EK. it was sold out everywhere when I ordered the block. price of the card+water block came out to as much as one and half payments on my Audi A6. that was hard enough to justify to the one who is always right. I didn't want to push it :/ howdy2u2
Photo reminds me of getting of new puppy...................have to have pee pads when you get it home.
a friend of mine made the same remark, lol.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 10:52:08
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So you are say that you can use the EVGA Back Plate with the EK Titan X (Pascal) Water Blocks?
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 11:12:54
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So you are say that you can use the EVGA Back Plate with the EK Titan X (Pascal) Water Blocks?
Nvidia* backplate. the ones on the FE cards. not EVGA's backplate. we still don't know what the EVGA stuff will be like once disassembled. that may be possible too. I was able able to reuse the EVGA backplate on the GTX 980 Ti classified with an EK waterblock in the past. I had to buy additional M3x6 screws to get it done, but it worked. check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Jvp460GfU
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 23:19:35
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bcavnaugh
So you are say that you can use the EVGA Back Plate with the EK Titan X (Pascal) Water Blocks?
Nvidia* backplate. the ones on the FE cards. not EVGA's backplate. we still don't know what the EVGA stuff will be like once disassembled. that may be possible too. I was able able to reuse the EVGA backplate on the GTX 980 Ti classified with an EK waterblock in the past. I had to buy additional M3x6 screws to get it done, but it worked. check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Jvp460GfU
But isn't the EVGA 1080 Ti FE exactly the same or more to the point, aren't all the FE the same reference card?
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 23:27:19
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So you are say that you can use the EVGA Back Plate with the EK Titan X (Pascal) Water Blocks?
Nvidia* backplate. the ones on the FE cards. not EVGA's backplate. we still don't know what the EVGA stuff will be like once disassembled. that may be possible too. I was able able to reuse the EVGA backplate on the GTX 980 Ti classified with an EK waterblock in the past. I had to buy additional M3x6 screws to get it done, but it worked. check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Jvp460GfU
But isn't the EVGA 1080 Ti FE exactly the same or more to the point, aren't all the FE the same reference card?
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/24 23:35:49
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Did you just use the stand offs that were under the stock backplate? I definitely did not think to do that.
I also like the ekwb backplate much more than the stock backplate.
+1 I like the EK backplate better as well.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/25 00:05:02
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But isn't the EVGA 1080 Ti FE exactly the same or more to the point, aren't all the FE the same reference card?
I never said FE cards from other manufacturer's were different. from the very beginning I was saying that Nvidia backplates will work, implying that this will work for any FE card from any manufacturer. it was the other guy who mentioned EVGA backplates for some reason.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 09:30:57
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 09:38:38
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Good info solomonshv, thank you. This may save a few people a little bit of money. 
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 09:55:27
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I couldn't get the screws to fit through the little holes in the backplate. The threads are indeed the same but the tiny opening for the screws in the EVGA FE backplate were too small for the waterblock screws to go through. Maybe I didn't try hard enough to push them through though.
I really don't care if I have a backplate but the stock one did have one small patch of thermal padding over a single IC on the back that did concern me that it may need the extra cooling.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 11:00:38
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Yea This Post is not about an EVGA Card but one from NVIDIA's Website.
But is still good info for users who bought their cards from NVIDIA and not EVGA.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 12:30:53
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I couldn't get the screws to fit through the little holes in the backplate. The threads are indeed the same but the tiny opening for the screws in the EVGA FE backplate were too small for the waterblock screws to go through. Maybe I didn't try hard enough to push them through though.
I really don't care if I have a backplate but the stock one did have one small patch of thermal padding over a single IC on the back that did concern me that it may need the extra cooling.
The only screws from ekwb you utilize is the 4 around the GPU. remove all of the others, and use the standoffs that hold the original cooler to pcb then use the original backplate screws to hold the backplate in place. bcavnaugh
Yea This Post is not about an EVGA Card but one from NVIDIA's Website.
But is still good info for users who bought their cards from NVIDIA and not EVGA.
They are the same. I made a mistake and though users were using the ekwb screws. They are not. They are using the nvidia stand offs and the original backplate screws.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 13:13:43
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I couldn't get the screws to fit through the little holes in the backplate. The threads are indeed the same but the tiny opening for the screws in the EVGA FE backplate were too small for the waterblock screws to go through. Maybe I didn't try hard enough to push them through though.
I really don't care if I have a backplate but the stock one did have one small patch of thermal padding over a single IC on the back that did concern me that it may need the extra cooling.
The only screws from ekwb you utilize is the 4 around the GPU. remove all of the others, and use the standoffs that hold the original cooler to pcb then use the original backplate screws to hold the backplate in place.
bcavnaugh
Yea This Post is not about an EVGA Card but one from NVIDIA's Website.
But is still good info for users who bought their cards from NVIDIA and not EVGA.
They are the same. I made a mistake and though users were using the ekwb screws. They are not. They are using the nvidia stand offs and the original backplate screws.
Ah,gotcha. Wouldn't that require removing the waterblock standoffs then? I'll have to think this through some. I'm a little lost. I didn't think the original screws would work in the waterblock standoffs. Or do you not even worry about the rest of the waterblock standoffs having screws in them? Which doesn't sound too safe since it won't have good pressure against the card other than the core itself. Help me understand this a little better. I thought for sure I tried the original backplate screws in the water block standoffs and they didn't get anywhere near fitting. Way too small. Which leads back to only using the 4 screws around the core then using only the original backplate screws into the original card standoffs which won't fit into the block standoffs. Lol. Sorry if I'm making this too complicated but it doesn't add to to be. Side note. 2088Mhz is the absolute max I can get on my card. Guess that wall is true. I did hit 2100 but after about 6 or 7 minutes of OC scanner stress testing, it locked up and reset the video driver. At least my max temps never get over 39-40C at 2088. I haven't touched the memory OC yet.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 13:17:05
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@ strato79 " 2088Mhz is the absolute max I can get on my card. Guess that wall is true. I did hit 2100 but after about 6 or 7 minutes of OC scanner stress testing, it locked up and reset the video driver. At least my max temps never get over 39-40C at 2088. I haven't touched the memory OC yet." Did you move the Voltage Slider to 100% ?
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 13:31:15
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Yeah. I used the custom voltage curve to set it to max one it reached over 2000 or so. I've tried everything I could to get it past 2088. I'll have more time after work to fool with it. I've only had it in my system for about an hour.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 15:19:19
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And Scarlet, no rush on explaining the backplate thing to me. I'm at work for the next 12 hours and I probably won't tear down my loop again just to put it on right now. But I will eventually so I'd like to know exactly what I'm missing. I'm sure it's simple and I'm just overthinking it. I'm happy with the temps and 2088Mhz with no throttling so I'll probably not even try to push it more for a while. It should play everything at max on my x34 @3440x1440 @95Hz. I don't see many games dipping below 95 at the resolution so I'm happy for now. When games get more demanding I'll just SLI again I guess. Even though I swore it off after my two 780 Ti's.
Thanks in advance if you can explain the backplate install a little more in depth, concerning my questions from earlier.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 15:48:52
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And Scarlet, no rush on explaining the backplate thing to me. I'm at work for the next 12 hours and I probably won't tear down my loop again just to put it on right now. But I will eventually so I'd like to know exactly what I'm missing. I'm sure it's simple and I'm just overthinking it. I'm happy with the temps and 2088Mhz with no throttling so I'll probably not even try to push it more for a while. It should play everything at max on my x34 @3440x1440 @95Hz. I don't see many games dipping below 95 at the resolution so I'm happy for now. When games get more demanding I'll just SLI again I guess. Even though I swore it off after my two 780 Ti's.
Thanks in advance if you can explain the backplate install a little more in depth, concerning my questions from earlier.
You wont need to remove the waterblock at all, and with a little ingenuity and craftiness, you may not need to remove the card from the case. I suggest magnetic bits for this. The waterblock stand offs stay exactly where they are. Remove the stand offs from the Founders Edition cooler. Make sure the power to the computer is off. Remove one screw at a time from the waterblock as it is installed on the gpu, and simply use the stand off from the founder edition cooler in its place. They remove a 4mm socket, as you may have found when removing them initially. The ekwb screws are m2.5. The standoffs for the founders card is m2.5. Its literally a one for one swap. Once you replace each screw, except the 4 around the gpu core, the you set the backplate in place. Use the small screws into the stand off. I will try to make a video and upload it asap.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 17:10:31
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Thanks. I understand it now. I never thought to look at the standoffs on the air cooler. It makes much more sense now. I can do it without removing the card indeed most likely. Feel dumb now for not even looking at the air cooler after I took it off. I rattled my brain trying to think of a way to get that backplate on but never even gave the air cooler a second thought. I was more wrapped up in matching all the thermal pads that the stock cooler had to match the waterblock since it has a lot more pads/paste like substance than what the block instructions show. Thanks again. So simple after it finally clicked in my old brain. And I have a great set of small tools that have a flexible, magnetic shaft that ratchets and has about every type of socket and bits of every shape and size. So it should make it easy to put it on still installed in the case. You rock. A video would be very helpful for others. I may film my adventure of doing it still installed in the case and hope it can be done. Both videos would be beneficial for others. Those that want to do it before installing and mine for the dummies that didn't do it before putting it in the case😂 One last thing. Did you put any thermal pads or strips on anywhere on the underside of the backplate? It had one little small piece of thermal material on a single IC when removing it from the air cooler. Doubt it's needed but I'll probably match it up and put the stock white paste like material that came in it back in the same spot just in case. Can't hurt.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/26 22:04:39
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Unfortunately for me now, i will have to wait until at least the 3rd of next month to get my Water-block, and i was so hoping to have it done this week to.
Should i just tell my Billing companies to go to "you know where", and that for now on i will be getting everything illegally??? It could save a lot of money as long as i don't get caught. :p
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/28 11:10:41
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Am I correct in the assumption you remove the standoffs for the EK backplate? I will be putting mine on my FE at the end of the week.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/28 11:15:51
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Am I correct in the assumption you remove the standoffs for the EK backplate? I will be putting mine on my FE at the end of the week.
I did my best with this video. I am not good at this, but i tried. I only had a 980ti as an example, but the standoffs work the same for the 1080ti reference block.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/28 11:20:10
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Well to late for me, anyway what is done is done. I will post a Thread about the EVGA GTX 1080Ti and the back plates later this week. PS Nice Hand, I mean Video Scarlet-Tech
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/28 18:38:04
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Am I correct in the assumption you remove the standoffs for the EK backplate? I will be putting mine on my FE at the end of the week.
I did my best with this video. I am not good at this, but i tried. I only had a 980ti as an example, but the standoffs work the same for the 1080ti reference block.
Scarlet, could you confirm that the EK block is the same size as the PCB (i.e., 10.5" long)? I'd really appreciate it.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/28 19:02:27
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Scarlet, could you confirm that the EK block is the same size as the PCB (i.e., 10.5" long)? I'd really appreciate it.
 The titan xp block is the exact same as 1080ti Founders
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/03/28 19:17:30
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Thank you sir. Very helpful.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/04/17 21:21:30
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I did my best with this video. I am not good at this, but i tried. I only had a 980ti as an example, but the standoffs work the same for the 1080ti reference block.
Thanks for the video. I'm a bit perplexed with what to do if I use the single slot backplate that EK included with the 1080Ti edition. The 2 standoffs holding the backplate to the card are higher. This results in the backplate cover sitting at an angle and being uneven.   Edit: I'm tired and being an idiot :). Looks like I need to use the 2 regular screws on that back part and not standoffs. The holes on the backplate are big enough in that part for those screws.
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Re: PSA: 1080 Ti owners, you don't have to buy an EK backplate if you get an EK waterblock
2017/04/17 21:44:03
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