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2020/07/19 14:48:37 (permalink)
Does anyone know if this is normal? My time spy extreme and time spy scores are just horrible running these 2 kingpins in SLI. When running the gpuz rendering test the bottom card stays about 80 watts but the top card goes to over 300 watts. When running like furmark both cards jump to pretty much equal wattage as well and they also do in time spy extreme but yet my graphics score is just pitiful. In port royal they both boost to around 700 watts as well. In a nutshell port royal single card, port royal sli, time spy extreme single all perform as they should but time spy extreme sucks to all get out and i can't figure out why. In this gpuz shot the pcie slot power on the one card stays at zero all the time even during benchmarking. This photo is of the cards at idle. 

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 14:53:26 (permalink)
    In this shot here i had time spy extreme running while the gpuz sensors were going. The same card is still at 0 for the pcie slot power. But yet the card is at around 300 watts. I switched the cards around and the same thing was happening in the same bus slot so it doesn't seem to be a gpu problem i don't believe. I'm wondering if this is a side effect issue with running the kingpins on an AMD board with a threadripper.  I went ahead and did this test here  https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/support-hardware/How-to-Enable-and-Test-NVIDIA-NVLink-on-Quadro-and-GeForce-RTX-Cards-in-Windows-10-1266/#DownloadNVLinkTesttoVerifyNVLinkFunctionality    and it shows everything is ok so i'm a bit confused.  
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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 15:14:37 (permalink)
    Threadripper isn't the issue... https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13065779

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 15:18:38 (permalink)
    Yeah i'm not sure whats going on, my cpu score in time spy extreme is like over 16000 but my graphics score is feeble so i'm only getting a total score of little over 12000. I'm down in the like low 70s for frames per second in both graphics tests and each card is running at around 700 watts and 2265 core clock. I'm really baffled, reinstalled drivers, reinstalled 3d mark software, just really tickin me off. 
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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 15:29:03 (permalink)
    What happens when you run the cards at stock?

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 15:35:51 (permalink)
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    What happens when you run the cards at stock?




    Same thing. 




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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 18:40:38 (permalink)
    On my godlike Z490 , there is a seperate power connector just for PCEi.
    Could it be a power issue on your
    MOBO?
    Saying that, my KPE sli scores were pants .

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 18:53:11 (permalink)
    Sparetimepc is running dual 1300w psu's I'm pretty sure he has every single power connector filled on his motherboard. 

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 19:45:11 (permalink)
    This is the first board I have used that had a separate, dedicated PCEi power connector.
    Maybe his board is not up to it ?
    It is an AMD after all .
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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 19:49:40 (permalink)
    His board supports 3-way sli and 3-way crossfire, so it should be up to it.

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 23:13:19 (permalink)
    Yeah i have both cpu 8 pin power connections plugged in, the cpu 6 pin power connection plugged in, and the 4 pin molex at the bottom of the board plugged in for extra power to the pcie slots for multiple gpu's. 




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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/19 23:23:23 (permalink)
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    On my godlike Z490 , there is a seperate power connector just for PCEi.
    Could it be a power issue on your
    MOBO?
    Saying that, my KPE sli scores were pants .



    Yeah thats where i get kinda confused, my score of 15699 time spy extreme has me at #22 in the HOF with dual kingpins on my intel board and on this AMD board my score is only 12000 not even in the top 100 so something is up for sure.  I have decided to remove the kingpins from the AMD setup and put them back into my Intel setup and see what happens. 
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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/20 02:41:46 (permalink)
    OK so with the kingpins back in my intel set-up the pcie power usage still shows the same thing with 0 usage so that seems to be a kinda normal thing i guess because my scores are way back up now. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/20 03:28:56 (permalink)
    What was the problem?
    Don't tell me it was AMD, as if I didn't know lmao .

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/20 03:38:51 (permalink)
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    What was the problem?
    Don't tell me it was AMD, as if I didn't know lmao .



    Don't know yet, once i put the cards back into the AMD setup i will have to try and narrow it down from there now that i know its not the kingpins or the nvlink bridge, don't know if its a bios issue for the AMD motherboard, might try a different bios and i'll probably reinstall the operating system as well.  Its weird, on the AMD setup my 3970X cpu score is almost 5000 points higher then the intel 9980XE, but on the AMD setup my GPU score is 3000 points lower then the Intel board with the same 2 gpu's. Challenging my knowledge for sure. 




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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/20 05:00:40 (permalink)
    I always thought GPU benefited from faster CPU clock speeds?

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/20 08:55:58 (permalink)
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    I always thought GPU benefited from faster CPU clock speeds?

    Depends on the resolution. Back when the 980 Ti's were new, my 980 Ti SLI at 1080P setup was hugely CPU bound - it wasn't with a single 980 Ti. 4K moved the bottleneck to the GPU(s) where it has stayed so far even with newer & faster GPUs.

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/20 19:01:55 (permalink)
    Even with KPE in SLI ?
    Wouldn't it be back on the CPU then .

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/20 20:43:17 (permalink)
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    Even with KPE in SLI ?
    Wouldn't it be back on the CPU then .


    At 4K? Only for games that don't need GPU horsepower to begin with.

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/21 05:25:06 (permalink)
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    What was the problem?
    Don't tell me it was AMD, as if I didn't know lmao .



    Are you saying my AMD just isn't gonna get to the performance level of my 9980XE with the Kingpins ? Well i guess the problem is too much CPU and not enough GPU bandwidth via the pcie because my problem was the bottlenecking of the the GPU's.  Went from 12,000 to 16,291 in time spy extreme by turning off the multi threading of the cpu.   Got me to #12 HOF for that category. http://www.3dmark.com/spy/13100025  
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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/21 10:29:55 (permalink)
    Nice scores!  SMT was the culprit?  Still couldn't the bottleneck be on PCIE and not the KPE's  I am still not convinced that their are not AMD PCIE gremlins at work.

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/21 10:41:11 (permalink)
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    Nice scores!  SMT was the culprit?  Still couldn't the bottleneck be on PCIE and not the KPE's  I am still not convinced that their are not AMD PCIE gremlins at work.




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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/21 11:47:19 (permalink)
    Glad you figured it out. 👍

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/21 12:52:04 (permalink)
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    Glad you figured it out. 👍



    Amazing what one setting in bios can do !!!!




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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/07/21 13:41:19 (permalink)
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    Glad you figured it out. 👍



    Amazing what one setting in bios can do !!!!



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    Amazing what one setting in bios can do !!!!



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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/08/11 01:12:19 (permalink)
    I get 21-24K when i run my 2 RTX 2080Ti and a 9900 processor.  Scores seem low for 2 Kingpins!

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    Re: PCIe slot Power Usage on Kingpins 2020/08/11 05:03:12 (permalink)
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    I get 21-24K when i run my 2 RTX 2080Ti and a 9900 processor.  Scores seem low for 2 Kingpins!

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