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2022/01/09 16:02:03 (permalink)
After a lot of swearing, threatening to blow it up, and anything else that makes up the typical process of diagnosis, I'm at a standstill. The POST Codes are "98" (Console input device connect) or "B6" (Memory training).  No rhyme or reason to which happens when.  If I reset it - whether by the 'Reset' on the front of the case or motherboard face or the 'Reset CMOS' on the back - it boots fine.  Disconnecting everything from the motherboard that's unnecessary to boot made no difference.
What I find odd is that one of the RGB keyboards I have will stay lit when it's plugged-in to a USB port while this new PC is off, but won't be in my other PCs.  As far as I know, power should not draw through a USB when the motherboard is off.  So, I thought maybe it was trying to boot off of a USB before it went to boot off the C: Drive.  Disconnect all USB devices, then disconnected all USB headers - no difference.  Whether everything else but Windows Boot Manager is disabled or not in BIOS doesn't matter.  Fast Boot being on or off doesn't matter.  BIOS is on version 1.08.
The only thing that I can think of is that the motherboard is bad.  Any suggestions before I contact EVGA tomorrow?
 
Thank you.
 
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post edited by MasonCatalone - 2022/01/10 17:21:27

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/10 07:30:26 (permalink)
you listed specs but not the most important one....  what RAM?  how many sticks? what gear? XMP profile?
 
99% chance this is a ram issue and can be sorted fairly easy.  


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/10 07:44:05 (permalink)
test with 1 stick of RAM in slot 2.  (page 26 in manual).  run at JEDEC defaults (probably 2133 or 2933) with gear in auto.  


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/10 10:28:06 (permalink)
I didn't! I just updated it. I have 4 Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 16GB.
post edited by MasonCatalone - 2022/01/11 09:35:19

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
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GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra
RAM: (4x) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 16GB
PS: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5
M.2 Key-M (1): Seagate Firecuda 530 (500 GB)
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/10 10:47:23 (permalink)
Test with one stick in dimm 2, default speeds, gear auto. Fast boot off


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/10 10:48:12 (permalink)
4 sticks at 3600 is a luck of the IMC lottery deal.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/10 10:54:02 (permalink)
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Test with one stick in dimm 2, default speeds, gear auto. Fast boot off

I'll give it a shot!

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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/10 11:00:49 (permalink)
Mason at some point others will chime in here but I had a HELL of a time with RAM on both the 590FTW and the 590Dark.  the whole "gear" business is new to me, and you are going to have to do some tuning to run 4 sticks at 3600.  


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 10:18:09 (permalink)
I've had bad boards do the exact same thing, pretty sure you will have to RMA OP.


 
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 12:00:39 (permalink)
Pulled DIMM port 1, 3, & 4 out. Same thing. Swapped each card into port 2. Same thing.
Read a few threads, thought maybe the RAM was running at too high of a frequency, so I set it to match CPU speed (3600 mHz) instead of "Auto". It posted all kinds of codes and wouldn't even get to a point to turn on the keyboard. Reset CMOS, went back to default, did it again setting it to 2133 mHz). Same scenario.
If I power cycle it, it'll boot - but I think that's because it turns on and shuts off before it boots. It's a good thing I keep my hair short, because it'd all be in my hands.

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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 12:02:43 (permalink)
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I've had bad boards do the exact same thing, pretty sure you will have to RMA OP.

If I can get EVGA to respond to my question to issue a ticket, I'd be on it!

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M.2 Key-M (1): Seagate Firecuda 530 (500 GB)
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CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cappelix
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 12:27:00 (permalink)
what about the gear?  gear 1, gear 2, or auto? 


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 12:38:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby MasonCatalone 2022/01/14 11:29:13


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 12:42:09 (permalink)
also what is the exact model number of your RAM.  


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:37:47 (permalink)
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what about the gear?  gear 1, gear 2, or auto? 



Auto.

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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:40:01 (permalink)
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also what is the exact model number of your RAM.  



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post edited by MasonCatalone - 2022/01/11 15:41:04

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
MB: EVGA Z590 FTW WIFI
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra
RAM: (4x) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 16GB
PS: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5
M.2 Key-M (1): Seagate Firecuda 530 (500 GB)
M.2 Key-M (2): Seagate Firecuda 530 (4 TB)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cappelix
Case: Corsair Obsidian 750D
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:41:10 (permalink)
I would manually test with gear 2.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:43:06 (permalink)
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I would manually test with gear 2.



Did that already as well.

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
MB: EVGA Z590 FTW WIFI
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RAM: (4x) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 16GB
PS: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5
M.2 Key-M (1): Seagate Firecuda 530 (500 GB)
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CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cappelix
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:45:30 (permalink)
Extended timings - 16-18-18-38 @1.35 volts.... Might need a bump in the voltages as mentioned in the thread I linked above.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:48:42 (permalink)
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Extended timings - 16-18-18-38 @1.35 volts.... Might need a bump in the voltages as mentioned in the thread I linked above.



I'll give it a shot.  Thanks for all your help!

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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:51:54 (permalink)
You got a killer rig. We will get it sorted. Many of us had good luck with gskill trident royal elite stuff at 4000mhz..... I might have some loaner sets I can push your way to test if needed.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:52:54 (permalink)
My son has 64gb (16x4) on his 590ftw stable at 4000. Rock solid. (Gear 2)


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 15:57:19 (permalink)
Also take a second and read the summary and conclusion in the igors lab link I posted for the key voltages to bump.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 17:01:30 (permalink)
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Also take a second and read the summary and conclusion in the igors lab link I posted for the key voltages to bump.



I don't know **** about tuning RAM.  This is a learning curve for me.  I've never even had anything like the E-LEET X-1 that I have now on anything before.
post edited by MasonCatalone - 2022/01/11 17:11:47

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
MB: EVGA Z590 FTW WIFI
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra
RAM: (4x) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 16GB
PS: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5
M.2 Key-M (1): Seagate Firecuda 530 (500 GB)
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CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cappelix
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 17:12:31 (permalink)
No you will have to just bump up a couple of things in the bios. Setting xmp profile is overclocking.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 17:17:35 (permalink)
I'll look for the thread with bobaganooshs bios screenshots on his voltage tweaks.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 17:19:00 (permalink)
Thanks!

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GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra
RAM: (4x) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 16GB
PS: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5
M.2 Key-M (1): Seagate Firecuda 530 (500 GB)
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CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cappelix
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 17:24:06 (permalink)
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No you will have to just bump up a couple of things in the bios. Setting xmp profile is overclocking.



I keep reading about "loading XMP" profiles.  Are the referring to preset profiles that I can download from somewhere?

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
MB: EVGA Z590 FTW WIFI
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra
RAM: (4x) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 16GB
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M.2 Key-M (1): Seagate Firecuda 530 (500 GB)
M.2 Key-M (2): Seagate Firecuda 530 (4 TB)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cappelix
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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/11 18:54:30 (permalink)
No in bios. Enter bios..... Adjust ram and voltage there.


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Re: PC Won't Boot Until I Hit 'Reset' (POST Code "98" or "B6") 2022/01/12 06:15:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby MasonCatalone 2022/01/14 11:29:48


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