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2017/06/22 12:38:50 (permalink)
Firstly: I want to say hi to all forum users, iam a newbie... So try to be friendly.
 
Secondly: i can modify the bios for a better Ethereum mining?

A BIOS mod already configured especially for those who want to mine, exists?
 
Foruns who talk about this? Suggestions? Can anyone help me?
 
My graphics card moddel: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR, 8GB.
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 12:40:28 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby israelfinardi 2017/06/22 12:48:29
No, you can't modify the vbios.


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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 12:49:08 (permalink)
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No, you can't modify the vbios.


Why i cant modify the bios? There is a vast number of users of the other plataforms who can modify the bios.
 
Examples: AMD, MSI...
 
The EVGA graphics cards do not give this option to the users?
 
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 12:55:04 (permalink)
Welcome to the Forums israelfinardi
 
Short answer is Nvidia has "locked the current 10 series BIOS" - it has a validation stage that it Must pass

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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 12:55:59 (permalink)
NVIDIA restricts the bios by signing certified files. There is no current way to mod the bios files for NVIDIA cards right now.

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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:09:31 (permalink)
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NVIDIA restricts the bios by signing certified files. There is no current way to mod the bios files for NVIDIA cards right now.

Ok, but its temporarly, right?
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:12:18 (permalink)
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NVIDIA restricts the bios by signing certified files. There is no current way to mod the bios files for NVIDIA cards right now.

Ok, but its temporarly, right?


It's been like that since pascal was released. I'd say it's permanent at this point.


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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:12:55 (permalink)
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NVIDIA restricts the bios by signing certified files. There is no current way to mod the bios files for NVIDIA cards right now.

Ok, but its temporarly, right?




that is entirely up to nvidia.
 
maybe you should ask them?

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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:13:23 (permalink)
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NVIDIA restricts the bios by signing certified files. There is no current way to mod the bios files for NVIDIA cards right now.

Ok, but its temporarly, right?


It is permanent until (if) someone breaks the code open.  NVIDIA intends for it to be permanent.
 
 
post edited by ty_ger07 - 2017/06/22 13:32:08
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:42:03 (permalink)
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Firstly: I want to say hi to all forum users, iam a newbie... So try to be friendly.
 
Secondly: i can modify the bios for a better Ethereum mining?

A BIOS mod already configured especially for those who want to mine, exists?
 
Foruns who talk about this? Suggestions? Can anyone help me?
 
My graphics card moddel: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR, 8GB.



If you're using the card for mining your efficiency will plummet with a higher clocked card anyway.  You're trying to mine coins while balancing your power usage (which you have to pay for).
 
For example the 1080 Ti FE has the highest efficiency at around 60% of its power target.
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:45:03 (permalink)
Well, if I can not change the bios...
 
I'd like to know if any of you mine Ethereum, and what overclocking settings do you use ...
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:51:02 (permalink)
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Firstly: I want to say hi to all forum users, iam a newbie... So try to be friendly.
 
Secondly: i can modify the bios for a better Ethereum mining?

A BIOS mod already configured especially for those who want to mine, exists?
 
Foruns who talk about this? Suggestions? Can anyone help me?
 
My graphics card moddel: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR, 8GB.



If you're using the card for mining your efficiency will plummet with a higher clocked card anyway.  You're trying to mine coins while balancing your power usage (which you have to pay for).
 
For example the 1080 Ti FE has the highest efficiency at around 60% of its power target.


Nice, i already bought EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR, 8GB.
 
I just wanted to know what the best way is to increase her clock on max settings and have a low power consumption.
 
Any suggestions?
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/22 13:54:57 (permalink)
To fine tune it, you have to make a custom frequency curve with your intended load at relatively stable temps. Otherwise you'll get bad results in practice. You can use precisionX OC or afterburner beta to set and test the custom frequency offset to power curve.

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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/23 00:12:20 (permalink)
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To fine tune it, you have to make a custom frequency curve with your intended load at relatively stable temps. Otherwise you'll get bad results in practice. You can use precisionX OC or afterburner beta to set and test the custom frequency offset to power curve.

If youre using the voltage curve then I would suggest MSI Afterburner. PXOC can only adjust in increments of 25MHz wereas AB can go as low as 1MHz, but Pascal then rounds it to the nearest 12.5MHz.
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 06:50:00 (permalink)
It won't let me post a link to the modded BIOS but there is a topic on overclock.net with instructions on how to do so. Do it at your own risk.
 
 
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 07:15:56 (permalink)
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It won't let me post a link to the modded BIOS but there is a topic on overclock.net with instructions on how to do so. Do it at your own risk.
 
 


Please, post the link. I Google it and i didnt found.
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 10:35:39 (permalink)
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It won't let me post a link to the modded BIOS but there is a topic on overclock.net with instructions on how to do so. Do it at your own risk.
 
 


Welcome to the forums
 
New members are restricted from posting links -- so make some posts over the next couple days and you will earn that feature.
 
Meantime add a space and skip the www.
like this:
mod yourbios.com

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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 11:38:34 (permalink)
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It won't let me post a link to the modded BIOS but there is a topic on overclock.net with instructions on how to do so. Do it at your own risk.

I just searched for this and couldn't find anything. Everyone in the titan xp, 1080 ti & 1070 clubs are still saying you can't modify the vbios. Everyone is also stating their isn't a vbios editor yet.


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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 13:13:07 (permalink)
Probably means the XOC BIOS without a power limit, but still has a voltage limit.
 
Lets see if this works *crosses fingers*
 
http://www.overclock.net/...t-bios-on-your-1080-ti
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 13:28:39 (permalink)
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Probably means the XOC BIOS without a power limit, but still has a voltage limit.
 
Lets see if this works *crosses fingers*
 
http://www.overclock.net/...t-bios-on-your-1080-ti


Flashing a 1080 ti vbios onto a 1070 is a bad idea.


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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 14:12:43 (permalink)
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Probably means the XOC BIOS without a power limit, but still has a voltage limit.
 
Lets see if this works *crosses fingers*
 
http://www.overclock.net/...t-bios-on-your-1080-ti


Flashing a 1080 ti vbios onto a 1070 is a bad idea.


Good point. I forgot this was about a 1070.
 
The only XOC BIOS im aware of is for a 1080Ti
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 17:15:00 (permalink)
For the GTX 1070 on Ethereum, you want to push your memory OC as high as you can with stability, then drop the TDP 'till your hashrate starts dropping noticeably.
The specific numbers are going to vary with the specific card, due to manufacturing tolerances - I've seen folks claim to hit +800 Memory clock in Afterburner on some cards, but my 1070 SC cards (same model as OP) never managed more than +550 stable and one of them was only able to handle +500.
 
 
 With that said, even for the 1070 ETH is usually not the best option - ZEC is usually better, and some of the "small cap" coins are often better yet.
 ETH isn't going to LOSE you money, you just won't usually make as much as via mining other altcoins that NVidia cards are better at.
 

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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 17:30:17 (permalink)
Maybe this thread should be moved to the cryptocurrency section of the forum like the other similar threads have been over the last couple of days.
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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/24 17:52:42 (permalink)
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Maybe this thread should be moved to the cryptocurrency section of the forum like the other similar threads have been over the last couple of days.




I agree. I'm moving the thread there.

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Re: Overclock and BIOS mod for Ethereum mining on EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC 08G-P4-6173-KR 2017/06/25 17:02:33 (permalink)
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Why i cant modify the bios? There is a vast number of users of the other plataforms who can modify the bios.
 
Examples: AMD, MSI...
 
The EVGA graphics cards do not give this option to the users?
 

 
 There are actually only 2 main "platforms" in graphics (and a bunch of minor ones) - NVidia and AMD/ATI
 MSI is a manufacturer, not a platform - IIRC they make both NVidia AND AMD based cards.
 Some manufacturers make both NVidia and AMD, some stick with only one of the two (EVGA is NVidia specific, Sapphire is AMD specific, as a couple of examples).
 
 AMD has cracked down "sorta" on BIOS modding, their drivers since the 16.10.2 released refuse to run on cards that have modded BIOS (though I've seen comments that "it can be worked around" in some cases).
 NVidia cracked down HARD on the Pascal cards, doing some sort of check in the BIOS itself.
 
 The manufacturers don't want folks modding the BIOS, breaking the card with a bad or "push it too hard" mod, then sending the card back in in an attempt at a warranty repair claim, because of the costs involved.
 

Now that vorsholk has stopped his abuse, I'm returning to folding.
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