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I have had a notification in since 11/18/2020 and 11/20/2020 and still have not received and word on available stock. This is going on 2 years now, and other people I know have received, and purchased their cards.I think I have been passed over for whatever reason, and would like to know why. I know of people who put their notification a month before mine, and were able to even step up to a 3080 ti.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/23 21:01:38
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It entirely depends on the model card. It also depends on what you’re in queue for. If it’s a non-LHR card, good luck. If you didn’t alter your queue entries back in October to narrow them down to the top two you’d want, you may be in queue for cards that have a more limited production or even non-LHR cards that are pretty much out of production. Otherwise, plenty of people have been waiting over a year for some models. Have you checked enewt’s unofficial tracker? If not, it may help to understand where you’re at in line. enewt’s unofficial tracker: https://docs.google.com/d...sb6CqxPOQUjhIZhRmu4qx8
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 03:17:03
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ObscureEmpyre It entirely depends on the model card. It also depends on what you’re in queue for. If it’s a non-LHR card, good luck. If you didn’t alter your queue entries back in October to narrow them down to the top two you’d want, you may be in queue for cards that have a more limited production or even non-LHR cards that are pretty much out of production. Otherwise, plenty of people have been waiting over a year for some models. Have you checked enewt’s unofficial tracker? If not, it may help to understand where you’re at in line.
enewt’s unofficial tracker: https://docs.google.com/d...sb6CqxPOQUjhIZhRmu4qx8
These are the two cards I selected, US 10G-P5-3895-KR 11/20/2020 9:44:34 AM PT US 10G-P5-3885-KL 11/18/2020 2:07:30 PM PT It seems I should of received a notify for at least the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 GAMING, 10G-P5-3895-KR by now.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 03:38:37
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US 10G-P5-3895-KR non-lhr mining card? I don't think so...
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 03:53:24
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kilroy2963 These are the two cards I selected, US 10G-P5-3895-KR 11/20/2020 9:44:34 AM PT US 10G-P5-3885-KL 11/18/2020 2:07:30 PM PT It seems I should of received a notify for at least the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 GAMING, 10G-P5-3895-KR by now.
The 3895-KR is probably a dead SKU. The 3885-KL is still on its release day 09/21/2020 16:30:22 and your time stamp is a couple of months later. See @enewts latest update here https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3518985.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 05:47:22
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kilroy2963 These are the two cards I selected, US 10G-P5-3895-KR 11/20/2020 9:44:34 AM PT US 10G-P5-3885-KL 11/18/2020 2:07:30 PM PT It seems I should of received a notify for at least the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 GAMING, 10G-P5-3895-KR by now.
The 3895-KR is probably a dead SKU. The 3885-KL is still on its release day 09/21/2020 16:30:22 and your time stamp is a couple of months later. See @enewts latest update here https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3518985.
So what does that mean? Even though the card is on the EVGA product page, it’s dead card? What about the other one, is that still active, am I still in queue to get a notify to purchase that one? I’m so irritated by this whole process.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 05:54:36
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Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 06:13:07
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 06:40:06
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You should probably remove notify for at least one of those SKUs and try to get the 12GB 3080. The SKUs that move quickest are generally the FTW3 Ultra models. As always you should try every option to get a card, Best Buy, Newegg, Microcenter, Etc.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 06:57:31
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Did you make your selections back when it was announced to select your top two, or did the queue default to the two you’re in queue for because you didn’t choose in time?
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 07:39:50
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Well in this market if all you did was sign up for auto notify and haven't been actively searching in the mean time, you pretty much screwed yourself. Sounds to me like you just clicked a few boxes and went about your way and ignored EVGA's suggestion to not stay in the KR sku lines on top of it. Nvidia themselves no longer sends AiB partners non LHR GPUs for anything but the RTX 3090 so EVGA can't make any of the KR SKUs of those cards. The KL SLU you selected is also their lower line RTX 3080 which EVGA said they would not be prioritizing. Yes it sucks, no there isn't much you can do about it. We are in the biggest GPU shortage in the history of GPUs. People will buy literally anything at this point it doesn't matter what the price is. There is no reason for a company to prioritize lower profit margin part in this market. Which is what was eluded to earlier in the RTX 3080 12GB. THat's really the only reason it exists. It's a price reset for the GA102 die, it's also the reason there has been no formal announcement from Nvidia regarding MSRP because there isn't one. It will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for it. PS: I see you have a RX 6900XT, why are you even bothering for a RTX 3080 when you have that?
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 07:44:02
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Did you make your selections back when it was announced to select your top two, or did the queue default to the two you’re in queue for because you didn’t choose in time?
I made them shortly after the whole Queue was announced, I had a notify on about 4 cards at the time and changed it to two sometime after that.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:16:41
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Well in this market if all you did was sign up for auto notify and haven't been actively searching in the mean time, you pretty much screwed yourself. Sounds to me like you just clicked a few boxes and went about your way and ignored EVGA's suggestion to not stay in the KR sku lines on top of it. Nvidia themselves no longer sends AiB partners non LHR GPUs for anything but the RTX 3090 so EVGA can't make any of the KR SKUs of those cards. The KL SLU you selected is also their lower line RTX 3080 which EVGA said they would not be prioritizing. Yes it sucks, no there isn't much you can do about it. We are in the biggest GPU shortage in the history of GPUs. People will buy literally anything at this point it doesn't matter what the price is. There is no reason for a company to prioritize lower profit margin part in this market. Which is what was eluded to earlier in the RTX 3080 12GB. THat's really the only reason it exists. It's a price reset for the GA102 die, it's also the reason there has been no formal announcement from Nvidia regarding MSRP because there isn't one. It will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for it. PS: I see you have a RX 6900XT, why are you even bothering for a RTX 3080 when you have that?
I selected several cards that were listed on the website at the time, thinking EVGA would notify me when available, so I didn't think I had to actively search anymore. The cards I chose are still listed on the EVGA website with the exact matching P/N as I chose a year ago, so I don't understand what the problem is. I've purchased many EVGA products in the past, a 1000 watt PSU just recently, I will make it clear when I contact customer service that I will never buy another again if this is how they treat loyal customers.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:16:47
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Did you make your selections back when it was announced to select your top two, or did the queue default to the two you’re in queue for because you didn’t choose in time?
I made them shortly after the whole Queue was announced, I had a notify on about 4 cards at the time and changed it to two sometime after that.
Then, it defaulted to two cards for you. Unfortunately, neither seems to have come up with your name on it. It’s a crappy situation, but that’s the nature of the beast until the supply constraints and shortages stabilize. At least EVGA as a queue system. I waited in it for about 4 months for a 3080 Ti, and that was based on launch day. As others have pointed out, the higher-tiered cards have a higher profit margin for both Nvidia and EVGA (along with other AIBs), so that’s what they’re prioritizing for production. Also as others have pointed out, there are other avenues to obtaining cards. Personally, I was able to get a 3080 and 3080 Ti through the Newegg shuffle. Not to beat a dead horse, but it’s a crappy situation, and you have to be more proactive if you want a 3000 series GPU.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:19:08
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PS: I see you have a RX 6900XT, why are you even bothering for a RTX 3080 when you have that? The drivers suck
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:25:07
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Well in this market if all you did was sign up for auto notify and haven't been actively searching in the mean time, you pretty much screwed yourself. Sounds to me like you just clicked a few boxes and went about your way and ignored EVGA's suggestion to not stay in the KR sku lines on top of it. Nvidia themselves no longer sends AiB partners non LHR GPUs for anything but the RTX 3090 so EVGA can't make any of the KR SKUs of those cards. The KL SLU you selected is also their lower line RTX 3080 which EVGA said they would not be prioritizing. Yes it sucks, no there isn't much you can do about it. We are in the biggest GPU shortage in the history of GPUs. People will buy literally anything at this point it doesn't matter what the price is. There is no reason for a company to prioritize lower profit margin part in this market. Which is what was eluded to earlier in the RTX 3080 12GB. THat's really the only reason it exists. It's a price reset for the GA102 die, it's also the reason there has been no formal announcement from Nvidia regarding MSRP because there isn't one. It will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for it. PS: I see you have a RX 6900XT, why are you even bothering for a RTX 3080 when you have that?
I selected several cards that were listed on the website at the time, thinking EVGA would notify me when available, so I didn't think I had to actively search anymore. The cards I chose are still listed on the EVGA website with the exact matching P/N as I chose a year ago, so I don't understand what the problem is. I've purchased many EVGA products in the past, a 1000 watt PSU just recently, I will make it clear when I contact customer service that I will never buy another again if this is how they treat loyal customers.
You signed up 2 months late and assumed that a queue was somehow a contract. The news of the GPU shortage has been extensively covered by nearly every news outlet conceivable. The success stories of people who have gotten cards through the queue all seem to revolve around actively learning which SKUs are moving and signing up for them. In other words, active searching beats assumptions. You can go Karen at EVGA all you want, but they don't control what nVidia chooses to send out and they never, ever said that you were guaranteed a card when you signed up 2 months after the queue opened. Also, 14 months is not 2 years. It's not even close to 2 years.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:27:56
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I feel for you OP. If I didn't read a lot of posts from others and do my best to get in early on the queue I think I'd be in the same boat as you. I learned that you want to prioritize the FTW3 models over XC and to have switched (or let it auto switch you) from -KR to -KL. Thanks to the info I was able to get a couple cards and pass on some to others who wanted them.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:44:33
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Well in this market if all you did was sign up for auto notify and haven't been actively searching in the mean time, you pretty much screwed yourself. Sounds to me like you just clicked a few boxes and went about your way and ignored EVGA's suggestion to not stay in the KR sku lines on top of it. Nvidia themselves no longer sends AiB partners non LHR GPUs for anything but the RTX 3090 so EVGA can't make any of the KR SKUs of those cards. The KL SLU you selected is also their lower line RTX 3080 which EVGA said they would not be prioritizing. Yes it sucks, no there isn't much you can do about it. We are in the biggest GPU shortage in the history of GPUs. People will buy literally anything at this point it doesn't matter what the price is. There is no reason for a company to prioritize lower profit margin part in this market. Which is what was eluded to earlier in the RTX 3080 12GB. THat's really the only reason it exists. It's a price reset for the GA102 die, it's also the reason there has been no formal announcement from Nvidia regarding MSRP because there isn't one. It will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for it. PS: I see you have a RX 6900XT, why are you even bothering for a RTX 3080 when you have that?
I selected several cards that were listed on the website at the time, thinking EVGA would notify me when available, so I didn't think I had to actively search anymore. The cards I chose are still listed on the EVGA website with the exact matching P/N as I chose a year ago, so I don't understand what the problem is. I've purchased many EVGA products in the past, a 1000 watt PSU just recently, I will make it clear when I contact customer service that I will never buy another again if this is how they treat loyal customers.
You signed up 2 months late and assumed that a queue was somehow a contract. The news of the GPU shortage has been extensively covered by nearly every news outlet conceivable. The success stories of people who have gotten cards through the queue all seem to revolve around actively learning which SKUs are moving and signing up for them. In other words, active searching beats assumptions. You can go Karen at EVGA all you want, but they don't control what nVidia chooses to send out and they never, ever said that you were guaranteed a card when you signed up 2 months after the queue opened. Also, 14 months is not 2 years. It's not even close to 2 years.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:49:10
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OK, hopefully the ASUS or Gigabyte queues will be quicker for you.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:53:17
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nomoss OK, hopefully the ASUS or Gigabyte queues will be quicker for you.
Nope I'll just do the Newegg shuffle and run my 6900 XT for now, and not choose EVGA.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:54:42
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Well in this market if all you did was sign up for auto notify and haven't been actively searching in the mean time, you pretty much screwed yourself. Sounds to me like you just clicked a few boxes and went about your way and ignored EVGA's suggestion to not stay in the KR sku lines on top of it. Nvidia themselves no longer sends AiB partners non LHR GPUs for anything but the RTX 3090 so EVGA can't make any of the KR SKUs of those cards. The KL SLU you selected is also their lower line RTX 3080 which EVGA said they would not be prioritizing. Yes it sucks, no there isn't much you can do about it. We are in the biggest GPU shortage in the history of GPUs. People will buy literally anything at this point it doesn't matter what the price is. There is no reason for a company to prioritize lower profit margin part in this market. Which is what was eluded to earlier in the RTX 3080 12GB. THat's really the only reason it exists. It's a price reset for the GA102 die, it's also the reason there has been no formal announcement from Nvidia regarding MSRP because there isn't one. It will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for it. PS: I see you have a RX 6900XT, why are you even bothering for a RTX 3080 when you have that?
I selected several cards that were listed on the website at the time, thinking EVGA would notify me when available, so I didn't think I had to actively search anymore. The cards I chose are still listed on the EVGA website with the exact matching P/N as I chose a year ago, so I don't understand what the problem is. I've purchased many EVGA products in the past, a 1000 watt PSU just recently, I will make it clear when I contact customer service that I will never buy another again if this is how they treat loyal customers.
You signed up 2 months late and assumed that a queue was somehow a contract. The news of the GPU shortage has been extensively covered by nearly every news outlet conceivable. The success stories of people who have gotten cards through the queue all seem to revolve around actively learning which SKUs are moving and signing up for them. In other words, active searching beats assumptions. You can go Karen at EVGA all you want, but they don't control what nVidia chooses to send out and they never, ever said that you were guaranteed a card when you signed up 2 months after the queue opened.
Also, 14 months is not 2 years. It's not even close to 2 years.
That's why I changed the title to just over a year. I signed up to be notified when stock was available (not guaranteed), just like I did when i asked to be notified when a certain PSU was available, which did happen and I bought. That was a mistake! I didn't think for a minute that EVGA would change the rules and make the whole queue process that had to be micromanaged, when all I expected was a notification to purchase one of their cards. My friend who picked some of the same cards I did, eventually got one just a short while ago, and he did the same thing I did. Imagine that! Lesson learned, don't buy or consider buying from EVGA again.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 08:54:53
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Good luck! Enjoy those bundles with exploding PSUs!
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 09:06:43
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nomoss Good luck! Enjoy those bundles with exploding PSUs!
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 09:09:06
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ty_ger07 Dead card: EVGA didn't prioritize production because of its lower profit margin. The 3080 12GB has way better profit margin than the 3080 10GB (the reason the 3080 12GB even exists, to be honest), so the chances that more 3080 10GB cards come out in any significant number is near zero. Did you notice how a lot of 3080 TI and 3090 cards were sold, but not many 3080 10GB cards? Yeah, there's a reason for that. You joined queues late for desirable price-to-performance-ratio cards, but EVGA didn't make and sell many. There are numerous "dead cards" (by this definition). NVIDIA has made a big show about releasing more SKUs, but what they were really doing was unofficially replacing SKUs for more profitable SKUs. No one has made an official announcement that the old SKUs are "dead", but we see the evidence of it.
Okay so it’s a dead card and EVGA basically screwed me in not being allowed to select another. So what about the other card I have a notify in for, am I just totally screwed after a year on their BS queue system.
Well in this market if all you did was sign up for auto notify and haven't been actively searching in the mean time, you pretty much screwed yourself. Sounds to me like you just clicked a few boxes and went about your way and ignored EVGA's suggestion to not stay in the KR sku lines on top of it. Nvidia themselves no longer sends AiB partners non LHR GPUs for anything but the RTX 3090 so EVGA can't make any of the KR SKUs of those cards. The KL SLU you selected is also their lower line RTX 3080 which EVGA said they would not be prioritizing. Yes it sucks, no there isn't much you can do about it. We are in the biggest GPU shortage in the history of GPUs. People will buy literally anything at this point it doesn't matter what the price is. There is no reason for a company to prioritize lower profit margin part in this market. Which is what was eluded to earlier in the RTX 3080 12GB. THat's really the only reason it exists. It's a price reset for the GA102 die, it's also the reason there has been no formal announcement from Nvidia regarding MSRP because there isn't one. It will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for it. PS: I see you have a RX 6900XT, why are you even bothering for a RTX 3080 when you have that?
I selected several cards that were listed on the website at the time, thinking EVGA would notify me when available, so I didn't think I had to actively search anymore. The cards I chose are still listed on the EVGA website with the exact matching P/N as I chose a year ago, so I don't understand what the problem is. I've purchased many EVGA products in the past, a 1000 watt PSU just recently, I will make it clear when I contact customer service that I will never buy another again if this is how they treat loyal customers.
You signed up 2 months late and assumed that a queue was somehow a contract. The news of the GPU shortage has been extensively covered by nearly every news outlet conceivable. The success stories of people who have gotten cards through the queue all seem to revolve around actively learning which SKUs are moving and signing up for them. In other words, active searching beats assumptions. You can go Karen at EVGA all you want, but they don't control what nVidia chooses to send out and they never, ever said that you were guaranteed a card when you signed up 2 months after the queue opened.
Also, 14 months is not 2 years. It's not even close to 2 years.
That's why I changed the title to just over a year. I signed up to be notified when stock was available (not guaranteed), just like I did when i asked to be notified when a certain PSU was available, which did happen and I bought. That was a mistake! I didn't think for a minute that EVGA would change the rules and make the whole queue process that had to be micromanaged, when all I expected was a notification to purchase one of their cards. My friend who picked some of the same cards I did, eventually got one just a short while ago, and he did the same thing I did. Imagine that! Lesson learned, don't buy or consider buying from EVGA again.
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Sorry I'm just frustrated by this whole process.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 09:37:31
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So I found out from EVGA customer service that the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3885-KL which was the oldest notify I put in is still valid and I will still get a notify at some point for it.. The next oldest notify I had, EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 GAMING, 10G-P5-3895-KR will be transferred over to the new SKU at some point, so that one is also valid. So I was told everything looks good!! My take away from all this, never bother with the forum and go directly to the source.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 09:54:00
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The bigger issue is moving forward Kilroy. The process of queue system is not perfect and everything can be gamed to a certain extent. EVGA has tried to get gpu's direct to their customer base which was also being taken advantage of by a number of users for gain which has more than likely led to the changes to the queue system and will continue to do so. What I would hope that others learn and realize is that this is the reality we live in now where leading edge gpu's are going to be difficult to get due to one reason or another. Whether it be scalpers, mining, material shortages, COVID, etc. Due to this if you are wanting to get something like this that the effort on the end user's part needs to be increased if you truly want to get one. I started out in the queues not knowing much about them and the best ways to get gpu through them. I waited and learned the process, but while I waited I also looked around to see what was available and tried to get them also through those means. When the New Egg Shuffle started I've been signing up for those just about every day. I don't get lucky very often, but I was able to get 3 3060s from that process which I used 2 of them to step up to higher level cards. Yes it cost me a bit more to go through that process, but I was able to get my gpus at a cost close to msrp overall. EVGA overall has done more than all the other AIBs combined at getting GPUs to end users at msrp which wasn't jacked up for profit like the other AIBs. If you want to complain about EVGA, how about a Asus Strix 12gb 3080 listed on new egg's shuffle today with a price of over 2k if I remember correctly. While from a performance standpoint that may be a great card, the cost is equal to or close to the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Very few other AIB's sell direct through to the customer, and while the queue system is back logged and some skus are not getting any product to release there are many people who without the queue system would have not gotten a gpu at msrp without it. You'd be left fighting bots to try and secure cards at random release dates/times or standing in line overnight in some cases just for a chance to get one. If you are not happy with EVGA, you can always shop and buy other products. It's your choice to spend your money where and how you want in this case. But sharing how unhappy you are about the queue process when you clearly show that you haven't been atleast keeping up with the trends or the process is sure to get some responses which may not seem supportive of your situation. There are users here who track shared sign up times when they are notified that their queue position came up and can purchase the gpus they have been waiting for. That has been maintained for over a year now and is available for anyone to see where they might stand in line in the queues. EVGA has posted here in the forums and sent emails advising users about changes to the queues. Forum members have shared countless times their methods of getting through the queues and their experiences to help others. I do feel your frustration, but calling out EVGA or companies who are trying to support their customers in cases similar to this doesn't seem like it's coming from a rational point of view if you take a step back and look at the whole picture from a 3rd party's perspective. Anyone who reads your post can see your frustration as many of us go through similar issues with the current gpu market/availability. I do hope you are able to get a gpu at msrp or a cost you are comfortable buying one at. But lessons can be learned through your efforts here the queues at EVGA. You have a pretty old account on the forums here so you've been around the block, but like I tell the high school students I coach that there are still cases where I as the coach learn also from the students I coach. To stay at the top or to be your best requires constant evolution as nothing stays the same. Best wishes in your pursuit of gaming greatness.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 10:22:31
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Gotspeed_2000 The bigger issue is moving forward Kilroy. The process of queue system is not perfect and everything can be gamed to a certain extent. EVGA has tried to get gpu's direct to their customer base which was also being taken advantage of by a number of users for gain which has more than likely led to the changes to the queue system and will continue to do so. What I would hope that others learn and realize is that this is the reality we live in now where leading edge gpu's are going to be difficult to get due to one reason or another. Whether it be scalpers, mining, material shortages, COVID, etc. Due to this if you are wanting to get something like this that the effort on the end user's part needs to be increased if you truly want to get one. I started out in the queues not knowing much about them and the best ways to get gpu through them. I waited and learned the process, but while I waited I also looked around to see what was available and tried to get them also through those means. When the New Egg Shuffle started I've been signing up for those just about every day. I don't get lucky very often, but I was able to get 3 3060s from that process which I used 2 of them to step up to higher level cards. Yes it cost me a bit more to go through that process, but I was able to get my gpus at a cost close to msrp overall. EVGA overall has done more than all the other AIBs combined at getting GPUs to end users at msrp which wasn't jacked up for profit like the other AIBs. If you want to complain about EVGA, how about a Asus Strix 12gb 3080 listed on new egg's shuffle today with a price of over 2k if I remember correctly. While from a performance standpoint that may be a great card, the cost is equal to or close to the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Very few other AIB's sell direct through to the customer, and while the queue system is back logged and some skus are not getting any product to release there are many people who without the queue system would have not gotten a gpu at msrp without it. You'd be left fighting bots to try and secure cards at random release dates/times or standing in line overnight in some cases just for a chance to get one. If you are not happy with EVGA, you can always shop and buy other products. It's your choice to spend your money where and how you want in this case. But sharing how unhappy you are about the queue process when you clearly show that you haven't been atleast keeping up with the trends or the process is sure to get some responses which may not seem supportive of your situation. There are users here who track shared sign up times when they are notified that their queue position came up and can purchase the gpus they have been waiting for. That has been maintained for over a year now and is available for anyone to see where they might stand in line in the queues. EVGA has posted here in the forums and sent emails advising users about changes to the queues. Forum members have shared countless times their methods of getting through the queues and their experiences to help others. I do feel your frustration, but calling out EVGA or companies who are trying to support their customers in cases similar to this doesn't seem like it's coming from a rational point of view if you take a step back and look at the whole picture from a 3rd party's perspective. Anyone who reads your post can see your frustration as many of us go through similar issues with the current gpu market/availability. I do hope you are able to get a gpu at msrp or a cost you are comfortable buying one at. But lessons can be learned through your efforts here the queues at EVGA. You have a pretty old account on the forums here so you've been around the block, but like I tell the high school students I coach that there are still cases where I as the coach learn also from the students I coach. To stay at the top or to be your best requires constant evolution as nothing stays the same. Best wishes in your pursuit of gaming greatness.
I appreciate you taking the time to write that, I apologize that my frustration got the best of me. As you noted I've been a member of the EVGA community for some time, my first card was a EVGA 88000 GTX among many others, including PSU's after that. I have always been happy with EVGA products, thus my continued purchase of them and my interest in the 3080's. I found myself getting more and more angry as this thread went on, basically not getting the answers I needed and feeling like i was being told I was screwed. Which was not the case when I called EVGA customer service, TWICE...to confirm what they were saying. All is good now, both my notifies are valid and I should get a card from one or the other. Take care
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 10:25:25
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I also edited my posts taking out anything negative I had said.
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 10:31:24
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Re: Over a year and still waiting.
2022/01/24 10:40:38
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I cancelled both my 3090 notifies last week after waiting 13 months.
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