CraptacularOne
Isn’t more than a little odd that they refuse to show any of the games that support DXR with any actual DXR settings? I mean BF5 with DX11 only? Shadow of the Tomb Raider with noAA?
 
pay attention guys there’s clearly something they are making a big effort to keep under wraps.

cneuhauser

CraptacularOne
Isn’t more than a little odd that they refuse to show any of the games that support DXR with any actual DXR settings? I mean BF5 with DX11 only? Shadow of the Tomb Raider with noAA?
 
pay attention guys there’s clearly something they are making a big effort to keep under wraps.

LMAO... always someone with a tinfoil hat.

aka_STEVE_b
..or maybe because Ray-tracing is till not that important ?   Only a handful of games even use it to any decent degree & even with that, it runs poorly.
  AMD is probably smart to ignore it .   Just my opinion.

xxDarkxx
The 3080 is less than half the price are u saying it will populate the boards when availability changes?
No... not a chance

xxDarkxx
Im not going to entertain whether being amd exclusive will limit it more than allowing partners to make it
Thats obvious and only a dense individual would argue otherwise.
Ahem

Why are you struggling so hard to understand that a low tdp and tight bios limited the Titan?
This is an absolute fact.
It doesnt matter if it sold less, if the titan was open to aib partners you wouldnt have seen the 2080tis compete so well (and often beat them)
The Titan was superior but wasnt given all the tools tools to compete

If you took a 3090 but limited power draw to 270watts, but then you compared it to a 500w 3080 well guess what? The 3090 wouldnt look so go anymore... thats literally what happened last gen.
you sound ridiculous arguing against that point

Maybe your deadset on buying the AMD card and this fact upsets you so u feel the need to argue it? Being exclusive will limit it and make it weaker. Fact

rjohnson11
I think what is missing here is the fact that AMD's new GPUs will offer competition which should help keep prices down for both NVIDIA and AMD. We'll have to see what AMD is going to charge for their GPUs when released. 

Sajin

CraptacularOne ANd let's be honest AMD charging $1000 for their flagship isn't exactly doing anyone any favors.

But, but, amd is the good guy. 😆😂

cneuhauser
Folks are also forgetting that AMD has a knack for creating drivers that pull the most out of their cards, Nvidia - not so much. If AMD stacks up against RTX 30 series with even a 5% margin, at a few hundred $$ less... they won the battle in my mind. Nvidia's launch of this latest RTX has been ridiculous all the way around, from a lack of contact with software developers, to their horrid communication with 3rd parties creating the cards, power and shut down issues, driver instability issues etc. I've been building rigs since the 3dfx (Voodoo) days and I've NEVER seen a launch this bad...no where near this close to horrendous.
 
Look Craptacular...I'm not looking at this from anything other than a business administration standpoint, you're only as good as your recent product...everyone in the tech industry has learned this; from Faceyspace, to Apple and their iPood, to Intel (which seems to be the current poster child for mismanagement). It's not lick the executives and teams didn't have time on their hands to sort this garbage out, all we've had is time during the pandemic. I didn't even mention the capacitors...now that, makes me shake my head... the fact that they hadn't distributed any sort of R&D intelligence to the 3rd parties about power delivery to the GPU etc. wow... just f'ing wow!
 
So go about your merry way and defending Nvidia to the bitter end, I see Nvidia going the way of Blizzard... they got too high and mighty and lost their edge, and now living on entitlement and name alone. I'll wait until the dust settles on the RTX 30 series, and I do believe there will be a lawsuit(s) coming from all of this; let it be known that I'm certainly not threatening...I've got better things to do with my time, I just know how business works, and this stinks of horseplay, I believe there's more to this story than what Nvidia leads on. Do some research on other companies that have recently screwed up royally... Ford and their Focus RS headgasket issue (holy cow) or their intercooler cooling below ambient and causing condensation in the intake, or Porsche and their carbon buildup on the intake and exhaust manifolds (another engineering blunder). When you spend enough time around companies that rush products, and/or don't do proper R&D you start to get a nose for this things and can smell it a mile away.

cneuhauser

CraptacularOne

cneuhauser
Folks are also forgetting that AMD has a knack for creating drivers that pull the most out of their cards, Nvidia - not so much. If AMD stacks up against RTX 30 series with even a 5% margin, at a few hundred $$ less... they won the battle in my mind. Nvidia's launch of this latest RTX has been ridiculous all the way around, from a lack of contact with software developers, to their horrid communication with 3rd parties creating the cards, power and shut down issues, driver instability issues etc. I've been building rigs since the 3dfx (Voodoo) days and I've NEVER seen a launch this bad...no where near this close to horrendous.
 
Look Craptacular...I'm not looking at this from anything other than a business administration standpoint, you're only as good as your recent product...everyone in the tech industry has learned this; from Faceyspace, to Apple and their iPood, to Intel (which seems to be the current poster child for mismanagement). It's not lick the executives and teams didn't have time on their hands to sort this garbage out, all we've had is time during the pandemic. I didn't even mention the capacitors...now that, makes me shake my head... the fact that they hadn't distributed any sort of R&D intelligence to the 3rd parties about power delivery to the GPU etc. wow... just f'ing wow!
 
So go about your merry way and defending Nvidia to the bitter end, I see Nvidia going the way of Blizzard... they got too high and mighty and lost their edge, and now living on entitlement and name alone. I'll wait until the dust settles on the RTX 30 series, and I do believe there will be a lawsuit(s) coming from all of this; let it be known that I'm certainly not threatening...I've got better things to do with my time, I just know how business works, and this stinks of horseplay, I believe there's more to this story than what Nvidia leads on. Do some research on other companies that have recently screwed up royally... Ford and their Focus RS headgasket issue (holy cow) or their intercooler cooling below ambient and causing condensation in the intake, or Porsche and their carbon buildup on the intake and exhaust manifolds (another engineering blunder). When you spend enough time around companies that rush products, and/or don't do proper R&D you start to get a nose for this things and can smell it a mile away.

This is absolutely hopeless. You think I'm defending Nvidia while the other guy claims I'm pining for AMD and a 6900XT.....So which is it? I'll save you both the time: I'm a fan of no company and will defend no company. So you addressing me as defending AMD shows 2 things: 1) you didn't actually read anything in this thread and got offended by my last post and 2) being offended by my last post is pretty much labelling you an AMD fanboy. 
 
Monopolies are good for no consumer, period. If AMD starts running away with both GPU and CPU market we as consumers have benefitted by absolutely nothing. Instead of giving Nvidia $1500 for a GPU will be giving it to AMD.

I don't give a damn what he thinks, nor what you think. I'm just giving my opinion on the state of Nvidia... times are changing; not to mention into is supposedly getting into the GPU race (lets hope they don't screw this up like they did their processor lines). When did I ever say I was offended? Project much? Not at all, I just think you don't know what you're talking about... you may know games, and even PC builds but you know nothing of big business.