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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 13:34:15
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Just stop playing games then you will not have a problem.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 14:39:11
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Something needs to be done about this type of gambling.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 14:49:07
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blackforce Just stop playing games then you will not have a problem.
. Or developers can stop being stupid.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 17:32:35
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blackforce Just stop playing games then you will not have a problem.
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Or developers can stop being stupid.
Didn't you know, we shouldn't dare question what greedy game publishers do. We should just accept it, be good cows for them to milk.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 19:21:00
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Games with loot boxes should be rated Adult.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 19:32:27
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blackforce Just stop playing games then you will not have a problem.
Or they could stop with the loot boxes and be ethical. You pay 60 dollars for a game you get the full game, and get real DLC expansions instead of the rest of the game that you already paid for.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 21:37:04
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Game publishers with morals are hard to find.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/16 21:41:57
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Does anyone think EA wouldn't find a new way to get the money if we banned micro transactions? They would just release DLC that can be used in the original game that would make DLC owners clean the floor with people who stay with the base game unless they want to grind for hundreds of hours and it would be perfectly legal. Just a simple fact that EA doesn't becomes a good publisher because they are forced to change loot boxes. They will find a new way to make that same cash.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/17 04:44:27
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MSim Game publishers with morals are hard to find.
Only because the consumer has allowed them to get away with it for so long.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/17 06:30:59
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fearpoint Games with loot boxes should be rated Adult.
Nc17 is the same thing, but parents are too stupid and let their kids do whatever they want. I can see why this is rated teen, since there is no blood, but the micro transactions should definitely rate it as adult because of needing a credit card.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/18 14:26:06
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fearpoint Games with loot boxes should be rated Adult.
Nc17 is the same thing, but parents are too stupid and let their kids do whatever they want. I can see why this is rated teen, since there is no blood, but the micro transactions should definitely rate it as adult because of needing a credit card.
Console manufacturers don't allow adult rated games which is why I think rating them as such would stop the practice cold, or at least for awhile until they figure out a work around that is. Nothing to do with parents any longer. Instead use the ESRB and the tyranny it brings to the industry to actually work in favor of gamers rather than just to be for show while being overtly obnoxious to consumers. e.g. age gates.......
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/21 16:42:30
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donta1979 -=Update=- Loot boxes in games will be banned in the EU soon. Belgium has ruled on it and well EA has caused the hammer to drop.
https://overclock3d.net/n...eeks_a_ban_in_europe/1
I can't see EA not having a team of people figuring out how to get around this. My guess is instead of selling loot boxes they will sell XP boosts instead so you earn a chance at a loot box faster. That way they are getting around "gambling for money" and instead the gamer is buying a item of value.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/21 18:57:21
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donta1979 -=Update=- Loot boxes in games will be banned in the EU soon. Belgium has ruled on it and well EA has caused the hammer to drop.
https://overclock3d.net/n...eeks_a_ban_in_europe/1
Hopefully it ends up doing something about Valve loot crates that require you to buy a key to unlock them. Young kids are spending a ton of money gambling that way.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/21 19:01:25
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Hoggle I can't see EA not having a team of people figuring out how to get around this. My guess is instead of selling loot boxes they will sell XP boosts instead so you earn a chance at a loot box faster. That way they are getting around "gambling for money" and instead the gamer is buying a item of value.
Or they will just out right sell items and you buy what you want...
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/21 19:03:09
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MSim Hopefully it ends up doing something about Valve loot crates that require you to buy a key to unlock them. Young kids are spending a ton of money gambling that way.
I see a big hammer coming down on stuff like that, the only way around it is to sell items out right. In turn I see consumers boycotting even harder.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/21 19:26:46
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donta1979 -=Update=- Loot boxes in games will be banned in the EU soon. Belgium has ruled on it and well EA has caused the hammer to drop.
https://overclock3d.net/n...eeks_a_ban_in_europe/1
I can't see EA not having a team of people figuring out how to get around this. My guess is instead of selling loot boxes they will sell XP boosts instead so you earn a chance at a loot box faster. That way they are getting around "gambling for money" and instead the gamer is buying a item of value.
+1.... its all semantics. Im sure they have all 50 of there lawyers in a emergency round table right now drafting the way around this.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/21 20:06:16
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MSim Hopefully it ends up doing something about Valve loot crates that require you to buy a key to unlock them. Young kids are spending a ton of money gambling that way.
I see a big hammer coming down on stuff like that, the only way around it is to sell items out right. In turn I see consumers boycotting even harder.
I wouldn't have a problem with them selling items outright, long as they keep the prices reasonable. The loot crates are way too easy for publisher to rig it to allow them to hit the revenue percentage they want.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/21 20:20:10
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One way or the other they will get their pound of flesh. I see the next AAA releases hitting $100 for standard edition either that or they put less into them.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/23 16:03:40
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Whats a lootbox!! One of the main reasons i dont play online these days, to many crybabies and pay to win adult entitled bull crap...
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/23 19:17:19
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https://www.greenmangaming.com/newsroom/2017/11/23/u-s-state-legislators-looking-legislating-sale-loot-boxes-games/
Looks like US big brother is making its move.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/25 08:08:31
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Hoggle Does anyone think EA wouldn't find a new way to get the money if we banned micro transactions? They would just release DLC that can be used in the original game that would make DLC owners clean the floor with people who stay with the base game unless they want to grind for hundreds of hours and it would be perfectly legal. Just a simple fact that EA doesn't becomes a good publisher because they are forced to change loot boxes. They will find a new way to make that same cash. They already do in BF1 with each new DLC theres new weapons that play better than the previous models that you can play in the base game.If you don't buy the DLC you don't get the new weapons. EA has battle packs you can buy that have skins in them. You're never sure whats in them, if your trying for a certain skin your just gambling. Skins do not change game play they're just a visual item.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/25 20:56:08
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The sooner Valve gets back to making actual games the better. They are the ones that normalized this garbage gambling in games and that is all their games are now. All they do is play middle man for gamblers in gaming. This is Valve's contribution to PC gaming and it's total garbage.
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Re: One government gambling commission about to hammer EA
2017/11/27 09:18:43
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I think valve has forgotten their game for so long :O
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