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2019/11/03 14:21:32 (permalink)
My first computer job was swapping 5MB disks out of an IBM machine and loading punch cards.
5 years later built my first computer around an Intel 80286 CPU.
Last 30 plus years I built hundreds of systems BUT mostly bought premade systems the last 10 years
 
Things just getting faster.  Same basics but devil in the details.
 
Graphics today IMHO  are the first area to look how a system will perform.
 
Today I have teenagers wanting to build gaming computers.
 
So I have a budget of 2 to 2.5 grand US dollars to build their first system.
 
I tried PC builder BUT ... 
 
Did a build bought a power supply and come to find out needed a 20+4 pin for better performance.  So return it to scrambled egg store.
 
Also bought a Phanteks Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum ATX Ultimate Full Tower Case and figure the thing will last a while for ATX motherboard builds.  I do have an old HD server rack in the garage but not gonna use it.
 
My endgame is to have a upper middle of the road build and upgrade every couple of years.  Probably AMD i7 , low end ETX2080 or high end 2070 , monitor 144 MHz refresh rate.   Its been my experience to go lower than state of the art or end up a BETA tester.
 
I am trying to figure out the nomenclature … modular non modular ... effeciency bronze gold etc.
 
How the heck do you pick a power supply?
 
BTW gonna post similar question about graphic cards so if there is a place to like general forum and then branch off to specific forums (graphics , Power supply, cooling etc.) I'd like to know.
 
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/03 14:52:00 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby donbrownz 2019/11/03 21:48:03
You could checkout reviews on power supplies you like or see what people recommend. I would suggest checking out EVGA 750W G2 or SeaSonic Focus Plus 750W Gold power supply.
 
Are you going with 1080p, 2K or 4K monitor?
 
General Hardware forums section would be a good place to post questions on building a new system.
https://forums.evga.com/General-Hardware-f40.aspx
 

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/03 21:51:50 (permalink)
Monitor around $400  so thinking 

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/03 22:17:20 (permalink)
I understand you recommend a EVGA 750W G2 at $110 or SeaSonic Focus Plus 750W Gold $100 power supply.
Thank you for the response. 
 
How do you come to this conclusion?  I can see the 750 watt … so runs around 40% capacity.
 
Since your recommendations are adequate … playing devils advocate why not go for it and get a Platinum power supply for $120?  Assuming Platunum better than Gold?
 
How did you pick from these ? The G2 is not on EVGA site  IS G2 on older model?
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 PQ  $120
$160
$100
$119
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 $100
 
$140
 
BTW are cables extra on a modular power supply?
post edited by donbrownz - 2019/11/03 22:19:34
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 07:21:50 (permalink)
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I understand you recommend a EVGA 750W G2 at $110 or SeaSonic Focus Plus 750W Gold $100 power supply.
Thank you for the response. 
 
How do you come to this conclusion?  I can see the 750 watt … so runs around 40% capacity.
 
Since your recommendations are adequate … playing devils advocate why not go for it and get a Platinum power supply for $120?  Assuming Platunum better than Gold?
 
How did you pick from these ? The G2 is not on EVGA site  IS G2 on older model?
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 PQ  $120
$160
$100
$119
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 $100

$140

BTW are cables extra on a modular power supply?


The color codings like bronze, silver, gold, platinum, titanium are the efficiency ratings that the psu was officially tested for and can do. Now, some units will be rated say gold but can do platinum efficiency pretty reliably but not quite good enough for the company to be comfortable promoting the higher rating. One example of that was Coolermasters first Vseries like the V-1000. You want to slog through a trusted electronics testers reviews of psu's you can do that here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/  They are legends and really know what they are looking at with proper testing equipment. All modular psu's come with there own cables, the higher the wattage the more cables they can accomadate. If you go to the 1200watt and higher i would suggest a semi-modular unit for safety, reliability cause your tapping much higher currents and a hard soldered line for the pc's main 24 pin is usually more reliable. The extra cable packs your seeing,like evga selling, can either be if you need extra cables or you want to buy a whole pack of cables in a different colors for aesthetics. As always, DO NOT mix and match modular cables from different manufacturers or differnet lines within the same overall model lines or your going to regret it cause it can potentially fry your components. Hope that helps some and get sloggin!

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 08:23:36 (permalink)
If your shooting for 1440p @144Hz, then I would make sure to get a RTX 2080 Ti for your video card, anything lower isn't going to be enough.
 
As mentioned above, make sure to check the power supply reviews on Jonny Guru's website, they do a full break down of the PSU with a detailed explanation of why they chose to rate the power supply the way they did. The Seasonic Focus Plus series power supplies are solid, I went with the 850w Platinum model and I've been pretty happy with it so far. If I went with EVGA, i'd suggest checking out the P2 or G3 series stuff. I highly recommend staying away from EVGA G5 line-up though, I had terrible luck with their 750w model.
 
For the memory, I would suggest looking into a 3600MHz kit, something like this:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232740
 
For your motherboard and processor, we have a lot of options on the market right now. If you have a Microcenter in your area, the i7 9800X is probably the best deal going on right now. AMD has the Ryzen 7 3700X that will get you about the same performance. The trade off between the brands is that the AMD motherboard is going to cost more, so pricing between the brands is pretty similar.

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 08:47:45 (permalink)
I was just going to go with (direct the kids) to EVGA SuperNOVA 750 PQ  $120.
 
But gonna have the kiddies goto  to make a "better" determination.
 
My basis for teaching my children … Give a man a fish eats for a day … teach a man to fish eats for life.
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 09:26:24 (permalink)
Microcenter is 2-3 hours away … not viable to save a little money.  It opened back in the late 80's … a worthy competitor at the time. Gonna probably do mostly mail order.
 
For CPU was looking at the Ryzen7 3700X with an Asus Crosshair VIII motherboard.  Again devil in the details which  Crosshair VIII Formula , Crosshair VIII Hero etc.  I think liquid cooled is better.
 
Although with history Intel usually gets aggressive when AMD gets close and releases some newer technology. But that's not available today.  It is interesting how AMD changed routes a few years back on how it routs data thru the CPU. Now we are at 5.2GHz overclock on AMD's Ryzen 9 3950X and I'll bet it will be upgraded again before years end while Intel lowers the price on the i5 , i7 , i9 thank you Moore's Law meeting up with Capitalism.
 
I get it on the RTX 2080 Ti … Again devil in the details … Kingpin is too much Not sure stay in the 8GB realm or move up to the 11GGB. New / used warranty etc.  My default is  to buy direct. We are coming off of 4 PS4's and 3 dell machines and upgrades are ALWAYS gonna be available.
 
Already got a deal on the Full size case … open box never used Phanteks Enthoo Series Primo Aluminum ATX Ultimate Full Tower Case for $120.
Has fan mgmt pwm built in with  1 x 140mm fan on top, 2 x140mm LED fans in front, 1 x 140mm fan in the rear, and 1 x 140mm fan on the bottom. Ability to upgrade to additional fans is possible. All fans included are Phanteks PH-F140SP.  Even has separate compartment for cooler pump. Case weighs about 45 pounds.  I have an old server rack in the garage I use as a tool stand BUT its over 100 pounds and the boss says its staying in the garage or donate it to a museum.
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 10:39:36 (permalink)
I actually wouldn't suggest a Kingpin model for the RTX 2080 Ti. Those have always been aimed towards enthusiast. I would recommend this model:
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11g-p4-2281-kr/p/N82E16814487418

Yeah, but that Ryzen 9 3950X is going to be very difficult to attain... and it's $750. The Ryzen 9 3900X is worth looking at if you are considering an i9 9900K since they are about the same price. Intel is still a little bit quicker in games @ 1440p. The i7 9700K is also a decent option.

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 12:28:07 (permalink)
newegg has some good deals.  Wonder what Cyber Monday will be like. Intel i9 9900K is $490 today.
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 12:38:16 (permalink)
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newegg has some good deals.  Wonder what Cyber Monday will be like. Intel i9 9900K is $490 today.




After watching the sales pretty close for the last few years... I noticed they will do flash sales on certain products up until Cyber Monday. Sometimes the flash sales they do prior to Cyber Monday are just as good or better in some cases. The i9 9900KF has gone on sale for $419.99 a few times recently and that's probably the best deal I have seen on that processor. It's pretty much the same thing as the i9 9900K except it doesn't have the integrated video and a higher potential overclock than the K model. 

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 12:45:06 (permalink)
How much do you loose in performance i9 9900KF vs i9 9900K?  $420 vs $500  $80 pennywise and pound foolish?
Another reason why I want to do my own built.  Prebuit systems do not typically list all the details … especially motherboards
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 12:55:30 (permalink)
actually wouldn't suggest a Kingpin model for the RTX 2080 Ti. Those have always been aimed towards enthusiast. I would recommend this model:

 
Would it be better to buy direct from EVGA and use some ones 10% discount code?
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/04 13:18:13 (permalink)
The i9 9900K has an integrated GPU (Intel UHD 630) - It's enough for browsing the internet, not really meant for gaming but it can play some games at 720p. Most of the Z390 boards have built in HDMI or Display Port that you can hook up to utilize that integrated GPU. It's great if you need to troubleshoot a video card issue or if you need to RMA a graphics card, you will still be able to utilize your PC for browsing the internet and stuff. -- If that's not something you see yourself needing, the i9 9900KF does not have a integrated GPU which allows for a little more headroom on overclocking. It's only worth getting if it's a decent amount cheaper than the i9 9900K though.
 
There is one other option that just came out recently... That's the i9 9900KS. Each and every CPU has the chance of being better than the next, which is called the silicon lottery. The i9 9900KS are i9 9900K's that are on the top tier of the silicon lottery and they set the base clock speed to 4.0GHz instead of 3.6GHz, it's boost clock is also set to 5.0GHz on all 8 cores where the i9 9900K is set to 5.0GHz on 1 core. It comes at a premium, it's for the users that want the fastest processor out of the box with no overclocking needed.
 
donbrownz
actually wouldn't suggest a Kingpin model for the RTX 2080 Ti. Those have always been aimed towards enthusiast. I would recommend this model:
 
Would it be better to buy direct from EVGA and use some ones 10% discount code?




Yeah, if it's in stock on their website... If you use an associate code, you get 10% off on Power Supplies and 5% off on Video Cards.
https://www.evga.com/associates/

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/05 09:05:02 (permalink)
It seems Egghead sells products for less on EBAY than on their own website.
 
Egghead on EBAY has Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread 3.6 GHz (5.0 Turbo) Processor for $455 and own website for $480.   Am I missing something.  Is this the CPU I want for the system?  What motherboard brand specific model should I get?
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/05 09:49:44 (permalink)
Newegg on eBay is a different team and different promotions, sometimes it's opposite, where the website is cheaper than what they have on eBay. That's a decent deal for a i9 9900K.
 
As for the motherboard... You have the EVGA Z390 Dark which is probably one of the best overclocking boards out there right now. I opted for a Gigabyte Z390 Master because it had all of the features I was looking for and they are the only ones that do the amplified USB port for louder audio via USB. I was also considering the MSI Z390 ACE. ASUS has some good boards too, but lacking on the features vs their competitors in the same price range.

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/10 13:33:17 (permalink)
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Newegg on eBay is a different team and different promotions, sometimes it's opposite, where the website is cheaper than what they have on eBay. That's a decent deal for a i9 9900K.
 
As for the motherboard... You have the EVGA Z390 Dark which is probably one of the best overclocking boards out there right now. I opted for a Gigabyte Z390 Master because it had all of the features I was looking for and they are the only ones that do the amplified USB port for louder audio via USB. I was also considering the MSI Z390 ACE. ASUS has some good boards too, but lacking on the features vs their competitors in the same price range.


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Newegg on eBay is a different team and different promotions, sometimes it's opposite, where the website is cheaper than what they have on eBay. That's a decent deal for a i9 9900K.
 
As for the motherboard... You have the EVGA Z390 Dark which is probably one of the best overclocking boards out there right now. I opted for a Gigabyte Z390 Master because it had all of the features I was looking for and they are the only ones that do the amplified USB port for louder audio via USB. I was also considering the MSI Z390 ACE. ASUS has some good boards too, but lacking on the features vs their competitors in the same price range.





 
I looked at a  Gigabyte Z390 Master and tried to compare it to EVGA Z390 Dark.  Not sure the difference.  Is there a website comparing motherboards or any computer equipment?  Can compare on own website but not various brands.
I ventured out and found various versions of the Gigabyte Z390 Master …  Which did you get the regular or ULtra?
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/12 12:47:02 (permalink)
I think Im gonna get the motherboard first … a x299 DARK and buy out from there.  An i9 9900K at $475 seems adequate.
 
Edited to x299 DARK
 
post edited by donbrownz - 2019/11/19 09:37:28
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 09:15:35 (permalink)
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Newegg on eBay is a different team and different promotions, sometimes it's opposite, where the website is cheaper than what they have on eBay. That's a decent deal for a i9 9900K.
 
As for the motherboard... You have the EVGA Z390 Dark which is probably one of the best overclocking boards out there right now. I opted for a Gigabyte Z390 Master because it had all of the features I was looking for and they are the only ones that do the amplified USB port for louder audio via USB. I was also considering the MSI Z390 ACE. ASUS has some good boards too, but lacking on the features vs their competitors in the same price range.




Picked up the Intel  i9 9900K for $471 on Amazon
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 09:36:41 (permalink)
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If your shooting for 1440p @144Hz, then I would make sure to get a RTX 2080 Ti for your video card, anything lower isn't going to be enough.
 
As mentioned above, make sure to check the power supply reviews on Jonny Guru's website, they do a full break down of the PSU with a detailed explanation of why they chose to rate the power supply the way they did. The Seasonic Focus Plus series power supplies are solid, I went with the 850w Platinum model and I've been pretty happy with it so far. If I went with EVGA, i'd suggest checking out the P2 or G3 series stuff. I highly recommend staying away from EVGA G5 line-up though, I had terrible luck with their 750w model.
 
For the memory, I would suggest looking into a 3600MHz kit, something like this:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232740
 
 




Bought the x299 dark motherboard.
 
Was looking at the memory you recommended G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C19D-32GVRB  for $110.  Latency is 19 Timing 19-20-20-40.
 
Should latency be considered?  Latency of 15  is on egghead for around $145 but it is DDR4 3000  Ballistix Sport LT 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model BLS2K16G4D30AESB
 
What does PC4 28800 mean?
 
Was looking at article about Latency and I know motherboards are built with Latency in mind.  Im quoting  Simply put the melding of +MHZ speed RAM and CPU sitting on a particular motherboard with a specific chipset needs to be addressed. and tested
 
What RAM was the x299 tested  with?
 
 
 
For $30 more 
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 10:14:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby donbrownz 2019/11/19 10:51:54
Congrats on the x299 Dark 

Intel i9 9900K --->uses Dual Channel RAM ---> Buy the Intel OC insurance --> or if you run faster than stock (DDR4-2666) & smoke the CPU

https://click.intel.com/tuningplan/
 
Performance .. RAM ... run the Fastest "Class" & lowest latency ... for Best performance
 
Check EVGA "Tested" RAM ... CPU and Memory Support
 
G.Skill also has a MB / RAM checker ..... these are Combos the G.Skill has Tested  https://gskill.com/configurator


 
G.Skill & EVGA X299 Dark RAM 

https://gskill.com/faq   
 
 
 
Read these Threads:

RAM Explained

Thread by  GGTV-Jon     DDR4 Memory - Speed versus Timings
 



Articles:
Techspot - DDR4 @ 4000 does it make a difference
good read
 
  What Are Memory Timings? CAS Latency, tRCD, tRP, & tRAS (Pt 1)
 
 
http://www.anandtech.com/...sair-adata-and-crucial
 
 
Web Search:   memory scaling on x299  (x299 can be replaced with a different chipset - if your interested )

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 11:01:16 (permalink)
What power supply mates well with x299 DARK requiring a 24 pin hook up (not 20 + 4 )  and EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER FTW3 HYBRID GAMING, 08G-P4-3288-KR, 8GB GDDR6, RGB LED Logo, iCX2 Technology, Metal Backplate ?  
 
Because of the video card 08G-P4-3288-KR a second power source wire from the power supply is required?
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 11:20:06 (permalink)
For a Single GPU - I would buy the EVGA 1200W P2  1200 Watts
 
They are great PSU I have several
 
If your going to go crazy in OC or multiple GPU at a later date 1600 P2 or T2 1600 Watts
(I have these also - been very happy)
 
On a Tight budget ... 1000W P2 or T2 --> is the min I would recommend for that MB setup... depends How hard your going to lean on it OC CPU & GPU --> you would Need to calculate the Load. 

850W PSU  May be OK ... too close for me to recommend.  I believe in the Rule of thumb 100% of anticipated Load should Not Exceed 80% of PSU capacity
 
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 11:27:49 (permalink)
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What power supply mates well with x299 DARK requiring a 24 pin hook up (not 20 + 4 )  and EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER FTW3 HYBRID GAMING, 08G-P4-3288-KR, 8GB GDDR6, RGB LED Logo, iCX2 Technology, Metal Backplate ?  
 
Because of the video card 08G-P4-3288-KR a second power source wire from the power supply is required?


Yes - Run two separate PCIe power cords from PSU to the GPU

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 11:50:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2019/11/19 12:45:16
The i9 9900K does not work with the X299 motherboard. That is a 1151 socket CPU and the X299 motherboard is 2066 socket.
 
Processors that are compatible with X299
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/x-series.html
 
The recommended PSU's are solid, EVGA's G3, P2 and T2 line-ups are great, I wouldn't recommend the G5 line-up though. If you are trying to save a bit of money, the EVGA G3 1000w is a really good deal.

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 12:45:12 (permalink)
Good Catch on the CPU - RainStryke
 
I never even gave it any thought ... OP stated its what they Bought, and I just ran with it
 
Intel i9 9900K = Sockets Supported FCLGA 1151  <---
 
 
--->  X299 = Socket 2066 
 
donbrownz --> Better Call Amazon & cancel
 
 
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 15:43:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby donbrownz 2019/11/20 10:37:42
No problem, thanks for the blue ribbon Cool GTX!
 
X299 is a great chipset. Here in 6 days we are expected to see the new i9 10th generation stuff from Intel, no idea if it's going to be on Amazon that soon though. The i9 10900X is looking pretty good. However, the i7 9800X has dropped down to 299 recently and that's an awesome deal if you have a Microcenter around... Might even be worth the drive, unless you need to spend more than $260 for gas and your time, who knows you might even enjoy it.


If you stay with the i9 9900K and return the X299 Dark, then I would look towards a Z390 board, anything with that chip set will fit the i9 9900K. If you go with the Z390 Dark from EVGA, then I would recommend going with some of this RAM:
https://www.newegg.com/patriot-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820225144?Description=patriot&cm_re=patriot-_-20-225-144-_-Product

I originally purchased those and found out they were not compatible with anything I had. A guy here on the forums got his to 4800MHz on his Z390 Dark.
https://forums.evga.com/Patriot-viper-steel-ddr-4400-MHz-is-cheap-17000-ish-m2964431.aspx
post edited by RainStryke - 2019/11/19 15:46:26

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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 17:32:50 (permalink)
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The i9 9900K does not work with the X299 motherboard. That is a 1151 socket CPU and the X299 motherboard is 2066 socket.
 
Processors that are compatible with X299
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/x-series.html
 
The recommended PSU's are solid, EVGA's G3, P2 and T2 line-ups are great, I wouldn't recommend the G5 line-up though. If you are trying to save a bit of money, the EVGA G3 1000w is a really good deal.


OKAY just canceled INTEL CPU and AMAZON accepted cancellation.
 
But kids say box on doorstep of house.  Might be X299 motherboard.
 
Looked at Intel CPU link you sent,  What CPU is comparable to the i9-9900K @$471 including performance ?
The http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/172/Intel_Xeon_W_W-2125_vs_Intel_Xeon_W_W-2175.html
 
This is a SKYLARK processor socket introduced in 2017?  Are you stating a newer Inter CPU using a X299 chipset and 2066 socket?  Im not sure what the price and performance of the CPU?
post edited by donbrownz - 2019/11/19 18:22:18
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 18:29:08 (permalink)
This article says not likely?
https://www.game-debate.com/news/27383/introducing-intels-10th-gen-comet-lake-core-i9-10900kf-processor-through-a-timely-leak
 
I believe it to happen because the X299 is for the new chipset.  EVGA recd the x299 chipset from INTEL. Correct?
 
This article says maybe December 2019 release and have been working on this CPU since 2015.  https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/intel/146552-intel-sunny-cove-ice-lake
 
Intel also talked about Foveros, a new tech to package processors that means more complex processor dies can be stacked upon one another rather than having to be placed side-by-side. This could enable totally new device designs that are even thinner and lighter. 
 
post edited by donbrownz - 2019/11/19 18:38:24
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Re: Old builder leaping to build a ground up machine 2019/11/19 19:39:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby donbrownz 2019/11/20 10:38:57
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This article says not likely?
https://www.game-debate.com/news/27383/introducing-intels-10th-gen-comet-lake-core-i9-10900kf-processor-through-a-timely-leak
 
I believe it to happen because the X299 is for the new chipset.  EVGA recd the x299 chipset from INTEL. Correct?
 
This article says maybe December 2019 release and have been working on this CPU since 2015.  https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/intel/146552-intel-sunny-cove-ice-lake
 
Intel also talked about Foveros, a new tech to package processors that means more complex processor dies can be stacked upon one another rather than having to be placed side-by-side. This could enable totally new device designs that are even thinner and lighter. 
 


X299 has been around for a while, Intel is releasing "new" cascade lake processors soon for it but they are just the same skylake based processors with a very small clock boost. Not to say they aren't good processors but definitely not state of the art,  and still on the old 14nm+++ process. Intel recently launched some new 10nm mobile parts with the new faster sunny cove core but that won't be on desktop until 2021. Which you mentioned in your first post not wanting to be a beta tester so X299 is a good fit. Its been around for a good while and is a stable platform. Just watch what you purchase for it as some of the processors released on X299 are not a good value (7900x) and some just plain silly, (Kaby lake X line)
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