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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/17 13:50:27 (permalink)
Anyone heard anything about the Hydro Copper block? Thank you
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/17 13:56:37 (permalink)
Delayed till 2021, can you buy provide what the max core voltage see stock on the Kingpin card. I'm seeing 1150mv seems hi
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/17 15:30:43 (permalink)
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Anyone heard anything about the Hydro Copper block? Thank you

There isnt any word past delayed until 2021. I figured the HC would be more in demand due to the higher end demographic. Im really hoping they offer the HC as a standalone block to registered kpe owners or something.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/17 21:41:56 (permalink)
 
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Just to toss my tidbit of info. My setup is in sig.  Best I could do in my 3090 ftw3 ultra was right at 14000 in PR.  With just about 30 minutes of messing with the kingpin my best PR is right at 15000. This is on the LN2 bios but nothing else besides just playing around in X1.  Maxed power target, 140 core, 1100 memory OC. It holds a solid 2140-2160 boost clock and stays in the 45-48 degree range without any special cooling (no pumping in cold air or anything). I did set it up in a push/pull setup though. 
 
Overall I'm happy with the performance jump from the ftw3 ultra. 


Tonight I used the same settings but just opened the window next to my pc which dropped the run temp from 49 to 39C and managed to get a 15226 score which is good for 64 place on the port royal leaderboard. So I'm good with that.  
 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/17 23:37:08 (permalink)
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Just to toss my tidbit of info. My setup is in sig.  Best I could do in my 3090 ftw3 ultra was right at 14000 in PR.  With just about 30 minutes of messing with the kingpin my best PR is right at 15000. This is on the LN2 bios but nothing else besides just playing around in X1.  Maxed power target, 140 core, 1100 memory OC. It holds a solid 2140-2160 boost clock and stays in the 45-48 degree range without any special cooling (no pumping in cold air or anything). I did set it up in a push/pull setup though. 
 
Overall I'm happy with the performance jump from the ftw3 ultra. 


Tonight I used the same settings but just opened the window next to my pc which dropped the run temp from 49 to 39C and managed to get a 15226 score which is good for 64 place on the port royal leaderboard. So I'm good with that.  
 




Nice! They do seem to scale well when ran colder. 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 08:00:47 (permalink)
I have a question for the people in this thread, as this will be my first Kingpin, and first GPU with AIO, figured i would ask here for help. The fans that will come with the kingpin, do they have to be plugged into the fan headers on the GPU, or can i bypass those connectors and connect aftermarket fans to a commander pro? Like if i put 3x ML120s on the rad instead of the stock fans, can i just hide those connectors from GPU and still control my fan speeds and lighting through iCUE? 
My thought process is i can plug the PWM and RGB cables into commander pro, monitor GPU temps via the iCUE software and it would still run the same, and i can control the internal fan through PX1. Similar to how i am running my NZXT Z73 AIO ... does anyone run it similarly or see any issues? I just want to ask as i do NOT want to brick my card doing something stupid. 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 08:20:02 (permalink)
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I have a question for the people in this thread, as this will be my first Kingpin, and first GPU with AIO, figured i would ask here for help. The fans that will come with the kingpin, do they have to be plugged into the fan headers on the GPU, or can i bypass those connectors and connect aftermarket fans to a commander pro? Like if i put 3x ML120s on the rad instead of the stock fans, can i just hide those connectors from GPU and still control my fan speeds and lighting through iCUE? 
My thought process is i can plug the PWM and RGB cables into commander pro, monitor GPU temps via the iCUE software and it would still run the same, and i can control the internal fan through PX1. Similar to how i am running my NZXT Z73 AIO ... does anyone run it similarly or see any issues? I just want to ask as i do NOT want to brick my card doing something stupid. 




That is my plan. I'm going to swap the fans with Corsair fans and plug then into a Commander Pro. It can be done but as you said, the harness would just have to be managed. 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 08:24:58 (permalink)
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I have a question for the people in this thread, as this will be my first Kingpin, and first GPU with AIO, figured i would ask here for help. The fans that will come with the kingpin, do they have to be plugged into the fan headers on the GPU, or can i bypass those connectors and connect aftermarket fans to a commander pro? Like if i put 3x ML120s on the rad instead of the stock fans, can i just hide those connectors from GPU and still control my fan speeds and lighting through iCUE? 
My thought process is i can plug the PWM and RGB cables into commander pro, monitor GPU temps via the iCUE software and it would still run the same, and i can control the internal fan through PX1. Similar to how i am running my NZXT Z73 AIO ... does anyone run it similarly or see any issues? I just want to ask as i do NOT want to brick my card doing something stupid. 




That is my plan. I'm going to swap the fans with Corsair fans and plug then into a Commander Pro. It can be done but as you said, the harness would just have to be managed. 


Thanks for the reply and info. 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 08:31:24 (permalink)
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I have a question for the people in this thread, as this will be my first Kingpin, and first GPU with AIO, figured i would ask here for help. The fans that will come with the kingpin, do they have to be plugged into the fan headers on the GPU, or can i bypass those connectors and connect aftermarket fans to a commander pro? Like if i put 3x ML120s on the rad instead of the stock fans, can i just hide those connectors from GPU and still control my fan speeds and lighting through iCUE? 
My thought process is i can plug the PWM and RGB cables into commander pro, monitor GPU temps via the iCUE software and it would still run the same, and i can control the internal fan through PX1. Similar to how i am running my NZXT Z73 AIO ... does anyone run it similarly or see any issues? I just want to ask as i do NOT want to brick my card doing something stupid. 


You can .. but one thing you COULD do is to use both if your case allows. I have mine setup with the included fans in the "side" of my O11 xl Case, then have the Radiator mounted, then have Corsair ML120 fans plugged into a commander pro on the other side.  This sets up a nice Push/Pull setup on the radiator.  You do have to set a fan curve for the stock fans in X1 then control the rest in iCue (I have a total of 10 ML120s in my case including the ones plugged into the H150i Elite Cappellix)

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 08:43:18 (permalink)
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I have a question for the people in this thread, as this will be my first Kingpin, and first GPU with AIO, figured i would ask here for help. The fans that will come with the kingpin, do they have to be plugged into the fan headers on the GPU, or can i bypass those connectors and connect aftermarket fans to a commander pro? Like if i put 3x ML120s on the rad instead of the stock fans, can i just hide those connectors from GPU and still control my fan speeds and lighting through iCUE? 
My thought process is i can plug the PWM and RGB cables into commander pro, monitor GPU temps via the iCUE software and it would still run the same, and i can control the internal fan through PX1. Similar to how i am running my NZXT Z73 AIO ... does anyone run it similarly or see any issues? I just want to ask as i do NOT want to brick my card doing something stupid. 


You can .. but one thing you COULD do is to use both if your case allows. I have mine setup with the included fans in the "side" of my O11 xl Case, then have the Radiator mounted, then have Corsair ML120 fans plugged into a commander pro on the other side.  This sets up a nice Push/Pull setup on the radiator.  You do have to set a fan curve for the stock fans in X1 then control the rest in iCue (I have a total of 10 ML120s in my case including the ones plugged into the H150i Elite Cappellix)


I was looking at this as well, i have the Lian Li O-11 Dynamic XL case as well, and will be putting my KPE Rad in the Side/Back slot as well. So push/pull is definitely possible. With yours, do you have the rad and push fans in the rear and only the pull fans on inside? or rad and pull fans inside? 
I like my ML120 fans, but the cable management is a nightmare, been looking at going with the Lian Li UNI SL120s if i can get my hands on them, cut down on the cables.

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 10:33:11 (permalink)
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 12:49:05 (permalink)
This right here is one eye-pleasing card. I really wish I was an Elit member to get one. 
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 13:04:30 (permalink)
I got mine today, but the OLED and RGB failed after the firmware update. 
 
 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/18 15:47:07 (permalink)
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I got mine today, but the OLED and RGB failed after the firmware update.



Damn, I hope you are able to RMA the card.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 03:41:41 (permalink)
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I got mine today, but the OLED and RGB failed after the firmware update. 
 
 


I really hope its a firmware issue. Mine did the same. I dont want a used RMA card. I hope I get a new. I opened a ticket. Sadly its the weekend so i dont think it will be looked at.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 05:31:22 (permalink)
now am afraid of the firmware update. already breaking the OLED. If i update tho and OLED stop working i will return it.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 07:21:09 (permalink)
My firmware update did not break my OLED/RGB. How do I get the RTX classified tool to apply the sliders? Precision does not show the increased voltage and my clocks drop by nearly 100mhz if I even move the slider from the auto setting.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 08:04:57 (permalink)
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My firmware update did not break my OLED/RGB. How do I get the RTX classified tool to apply the sliders? Precision does not show the increased voltage and my clocks drop by nearly 100mhz if I even move the slider from the auto setting.


This should be it on page 2

https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3154924




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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 09:39:05 (permalink)
Speaking of fans and keeping the cards cooler and the whole "power draw discussion", has anyone tried using the fans on a fan header or different controller, and notice a total GPU board power drop? I feel if you offload the fans to a separate power source, you may not run into the power limit as fast for the GPU.
 
I'm planning on running 6x ML120s push/pull on a controller with SATA power, and maybe let the card still get the PWM cable so the card can determine the speed but let the power come from elsewhere, or just run a curve in a third party program.

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 11:21:20 (permalink)
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Speaking of fans and keeping the cards cooler and the whole "power draw discussion", has anyone tried using the fans on a fan header or different controller, and notice a total GPU board power drop? I feel if you offload the fans to a separate power source, you may not run into the power limit as fast for the GPU.
 
I'm planning on running 6x ML120s push/pull on a controller with SATA power, and maybe let the card still get the PWM cable so the card can determine the speed but let the power come from elsewhere, or just run a curve in a third party program.




I said the same thing. We are talking about 5-10W though. I am not even sure it's taking that into account for the power limiting.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 11:41:02 (permalink)
AFAIK, the fans that come with it are kind of weak, and would tap into the boards draw. I think plugging the fans into the MOBO fan headers or using a fan controller is a great idea. I am going to be doing that myself and plugging them into a commander pro. 
I have my card, but it's still in the box. It's going to be a little work to change my case layout around and I have not had the time. 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 11:47:51 (permalink)
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AFAIK, the fans that come with it are kind of weak, and would tap into the boards draw. I think plugging the fans into the MOBO fan headers or using a fan controller is a great idea. I am going to be doing that myself and plugging them into a commander pro. 
I have my card, but it's still in the box. It's going to be a little work to change my case layout around and I have not had the time. 




Does the commander pro let you plug it into the kingpin so the kingpin can still control it? obviously you can tweak the speeds externally after that with the controller just never used one. Will pick up right now if it does let you do that.
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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 12:03:16 (permalink)
No, you won’t be able to control those 3 fans or 6 whatever you decide, with any GPU software. You have to control them in icue. Unless their is some other way I’m not aware of.

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 12:05:05 (permalink)
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No, you won’t be able to control those 3 fans or 6 whatever you decide, with any GPU software. You have to control them in icue. Unless their is some other way I’m not aware of.



I was just told by someone else that you can plug the controller into mobo headers (and GPU) and just create a custom fan curve in the third party software so it still is controlled by the PWM signal from the card.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 16:41:11 (permalink)
since this is the *official* kingpin thread, I assume that the evga officials monitor it. Could you please post the link to the document for the 3090 kingpin that is analogous to the 2080 kingpin here
https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#kpes
That document is very interesting. The realization that maxxing voltage and mHz no longer are keys to maximum performance took me a while to understand. Turbo boost behavior is complicated. Even more subtle were the oscilloscope traces that showed power fluctuations which the card responds to but these power fluctuations do not appear either in software tools (HwInfo) or voltmeter readings from the pins. Do we need to have an oscilloscope to REALLY KNOW what the 3090 KPE is doing?
 
Reading the threads on this board where people discuss the settings on classified tool seems like black magic-no measurements or even logic to guide the selections. I am not criticising. I appreciate the contributions of the moderator especially. But when he says something like
'1.125 nvvdd, 1.4 fbvdd, & 1.2 msvdd. both load lines on level 1 and disable both ocp' for a card with an AIO
And then Steve and Jay on their OC competition showed numbers in the beginning on AIO(at 1:12:27) like
0.7625 NVDD  ,1.36875 FBVDD,.8875 msvdd 
That is quite a difference.
 
Also they max out their switching frequency from 400 to 1000. No one even mentions their settings for this. I have no idea what it does or how changing it affects the card or the temp.
Also no one has mentioned any use of the dip switches and their settings? There are dip switches on this card right?
 
So in addition to the overclocking I *used* to do where I only twirled the knobs of core voltage, core freq and mem freq, now there is also FBVDD, MSVDD, 2 load line settings and 2 switching frequencies. Further more, the effect of temperature on these components is not symmetrically equal. Certainly, kingpin has notebooks full of notes on his overclocking adventures. Could someone at EVGA collate some of this into wisdom and anecdotes so we know how to think about these variables? Systematically changing each of these variables a little bit and stress testing will take longer than the time before the next two generations of cards to be produced. Certainly the engineers who designed these cards could shed some light?

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 16:49:27 (permalink)
@Cadillac94pimpin
Argus monitor allows you to control ANY fan based on the temperature (or combination of temperatures of any sensors using any algorithm you write). For example, I use gpu temp it to control the speed of a fan connected to the motherboard which is blowing on heatsinks I placed on the backplate of my watercooled Titan XP. The fans on the rad for the Titan are controlled by a combination of gpu temp and case temp.
 
There is also a free version on github that is functionally even better but I forgot what it's called. IT just doesnt look pretty.

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 19:18:57 (permalink)
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Argus monitor allows you to control ANY fan based on the temperature (or combination of temperatures of any sensors using any algorithm you write). For example, I use gpu temp it to control the speed of a fan connected to the motherboard which is blowing on heatsinks I placed on the backplate of my watercooled Titan XP. The fans on the rad for the Titan are controlled by a combination of gpu temp and case temp.
 
There is also a free version on github that is functionally even better but I forgot what it's called. IT just doesnt look pretty.




Nice! I will have to look into that! I know I can use a custom curve in icue based on GPU temp but that's it, just GPU temp not a combination like you mentioned and that could work well. 
 
https://imgur.com/a/SxqxV0k 
 
 

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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/21 07:25:10 (permalink)
Well that's totally impressive right there, excellent




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Re: Sightings of the EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/21 12:35:55 (permalink)
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New 3DMARK Port Royal World Record on X299 DARK & KP 3090 - Kingpin
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Nice sli score. But still number 3 for single card.

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