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2021/01/13 06:40:03 (permalink)
Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage - The Verge
 
Nvidia’s new RTX 3080, 3070, 3060 Ti and 3090 and the AMD RX 6800 and 6800 XT are all incredibly hard to find, selling out instantly whenever they appear, due to an incredible level of demand that makes these GPUs worth many hundreds of dollars more than MSRP. A Trump tax and surging cryptocurrency prices may be about to make them even more expensive, too. Many older graphics cards are sold out online as well. This week, Nvidia and AMD finally have some updates — and it’s bittersweet news. On the plus side, AMD tells The Verge it expects to sell more of its own reference design RX 6800, 6800 XT and RX 6900 XT cards on its own website in the first quarter of 2021 at their sticker prices, which should mean $579, $649 and $999 instead of inflated ones. But AMD is only committing to make them available “to as many gamers as possible,” which may not reassure buyers who felt AMD had a paper launch to begin with. Nvidia, meanwhile, is now saying that supplies of its GPUs to both consumers and partners “will likely remain lean through Q1,” and we’re not even talking about the first quarter of the year — Nvidia’s fiscal Q1 doesn’t end until late April. That’s an awfully long wait.
 
Again, it’s demand, not just supply constraints, that are keeping graphics cards out of our hands. Nvidia tells us that since launch, its $499-and-up RTX 30-series GPUs have sold almost twice as much as the RTX 20-series did after the same amount of time. (The RTX 30-series is a much bigger upgrade than the previous gen was, mind you — there weren’t a lot of games that took advantage of Nvidia’s ray tracing at the time, and people’s GTX 10-series cards were still holding up just fine.)
 
Nvidia does at least seem to think crypto miners aren’t snapping up all the cards quite yet, despite the sky-high prices we’ve recently seen for Bitcoin and Ethereum.
 
“If crypto demand begins or if we see a meaningful amount,” said CFO Colette Kress at a recent investor conference, “we can also use that opportunity to restart the CMP product line to address ongoing mining demand.” CMP refers to Nvidia’s dedicated crypto mining GPUs, which strip away the video ports miners don’t need because they aren’t driving graphics to a monitor, making them them more profitable for Nvidia.
 
As far as whether Trump’s taxes might impact the price of graphics cards, Nvidia isn’t saying much — but AMD CEO Lisa Su claims the company is trying its best to keep prices down. Here’s a quote transcribed by AnandTech:
We knew about the expiration of some tariff policies, and in advance worked towards a more flexible supply chain as it relates to AMD. We are committed to keeping GPU pricing as close to our suggested retail pricing as much as possible, because it’s the only way to be fair to the users. Normally when we have GPU launches, our own branded cards are available initially but then fade away for our partners to pick up. This time around we’re not phasing out our RX 6000 series, enabling us to sell direct to customers as low as possible. We’re encouraging partners to do the same. Not only tariffs, but the COVID environment has increased shipping and freight costs, which are hard to avoid. As we get into a more normal environment, this should improve. This also matters for our planned graphics updates through the first half of the year, as we have a lot of product coming to market.
That sounds good, but it’s still fairly noncommittal — and feels like a step back from what AMD told Hardware Unboxed in November, about how partners should be able to sell the RX 6800 XT at its original $649 MSRP within eight weeks.
During their back-to-back CES 2021 keynotes today, AMD praised how its new graphics cards gave the company “leadership at the high end” and noted that “many gamers are excited about the Radeon RX 6000 series,” while Nvidia acknowledged that “these products have been hard to find, and we want to thank you for your patience as we continue to work hard to catch up.”
 
It’s going to be a wait, and you shouldn’t be surprised if Nvidia’s just-announced $329 GeForce RTX 3060 is hell to buy, just like its predecessors. Like many have asked: why can’t we just buy one and they ship it when it’s ready?
 
Based on this article and in my opinion GPUs from AMD and NVIDIA will not be widely available for some time

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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/13 06:49:49 (permalink)
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/13 06:58:17 (permalink)
    AMD's website, shipping, and customer service department have been garbage from what I've seen over at r/AMD. I wish they'd commit to a queue system with online retailers instead.


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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/13 07:22:37 (permalink)
    Both sides *committed*  to 'saying' we are doing everything we can , ... not so much in the 'doing' dept. 
    Like a que system, a 1 per address preorder ability , or 1 per PO box verification check  , or etc..etc... anything else to make sure products get into real consumer hands.


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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/13 13:21:16 (permalink)
    I say they are full of it, how many pre built systems can you get a 3070, 3080 or 3090 from right now? Then nothing done about the scalper/miners/botters. Yeah...

     
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/13 20:00:26 (permalink)
    AMD shop is borked, nothing on NVIDIA at all
     
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/13 23:28:39 (permalink)
    Ugh... patience is not my strong suit.  Can't they just shut up and take my money?  I just want to spend 2k on a top of the line card after all lol

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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/14 07:37:24 (permalink)
    E-Bay is a terrible place to look for cards. Go to r/HardwareSwap and see if someone has a card they're looking to trade/sell you locally.


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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/16 09:46:53 (permalink)
    https://www.techspot.com/news/88310-amd-ceo-lisa-su-discusses-supply-problems-future.html
     
    To prevent future supply problems, AMD have invested in the construction of new equipment and facilities. They'll be prepared to handle this level of demand for future launches
     
     
     
    lol does this mean AMD is gonna go back to having their own fab????
    the supply problem is due to two things high demand(like double) and not enough supply of resources and fabrication - due to covid and not enough fabs built because they reduce the number of fabs over lean years(better to not have excess capacity and drown out prices with a glut of silicon)


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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/18 07:42:16 (permalink)
    Chip shortages shutting down car factories
     
    American car makers are asking the US government to help solve a debilitating shortage of computer chips that is closing auto factories worldwide and could restrict production until autumn.
     
    The American Automotive Policy Council — a lobbying organisation for General Motors, Ford Motor and the US operations of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV — is agitating with the US Commerce Department and the incoming administration of President-elect Joe Biden to press Asian semiconductor makers to reallocate output away from consumer electronics and build essential chips for cars.
     
     
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/18 08:32:30 (permalink)
    One of the issues is lack of semiconductors which is affecting all chip manufacturers whether for businesses or consumers. 

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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/19 03:47:10 (permalink)
    do you think 2021 will have no shortage 
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/19 06:30:47 (permalink)
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    do you think 2021 will have no shortage 


    No, it's 2021 right now and we have a video card shortage.

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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/20 10:01:12 (permalink)
    I would love to start building a computer but I guess im stick with a laptop for now :(
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/20 10:15:19 (permalink)
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    I would love to start building a computer but I guess im stick with a laptop for now :(


    Hopefully the trade policy and new COVID-19 protocol recommendations will make a difference in how long it takes for us to get up to speed. Unfortunately with people working from home things are really short supply as people are not as interested in laptops because they are not going anywhere for work.

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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/20 10:50:51 (permalink)
    I did an informal survey and I estimate that several thousand RTX Ampere cards are busy mining instead of being used for gaming.
     
     

      


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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/20 10:59:05 (permalink)
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    I did an informal survey and I estimate that several hundred thousand RTX Ampere cards are busy mining instead of being used for gaming.



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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/20 11:59:11 (permalink)
    thanks crypto miners =(
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/21 17:41:50 (permalink)
    When I bought 2 x 2080 Ti's in the middle of 2020 I started to kinda regret the purchase as Nvidia's 3000 series announcement was approaching. I wanted to sell my cards but now I see purchasing them and holding on to them wasn't a bad decision at all given the current GPU market situation.
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    Re: Nvidia and AMD address the great GPU shortage 2021/01/21 18:24:00 (permalink)
    I scored a rtx2060 super just before the price surge 
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