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2020/01/29 12:14:05 (permalink)
Just wondering if anyone has links to any juicy Ampere news... such as a solid release date, performance specs, pricing, initial lineup?

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/01/29 12:16:43 (permalink)
    Nothing solid yet. Just rumors still.
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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/01/29 12:22:53 (permalink)
    Everything is a rumor until it's announced is how I feel. If you fallow the news it's almost impossible to keep up and the fact the stories don't really line up shows they are probably just click baiting stories.

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/01/29 12:29:07 (permalink)
    They will probably wait until AMD releases their new card ,... then announce something to spoil it.
     
    As any good company that is currently in the lead should.   Nvidia doesn't need any hype yet, so might as well hold your cards close to the vest.....
     
    ** But I wish we did have some tech info that was credible , from either side. 

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/01/29 13:00:54 (permalink)
    those who would know ... NDA

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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/01/29 13:33:57 (permalink)
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    Just wondering if anyone has links to any juicy Ampere news... such as a solid release date, performance specs, pricing, initial lineup?

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    Just guesses.  Don't expect Nivdia to upset their apple cart.  I just saw Best Buy had the founders edition 2080S on sale for $650. 
     
    Expect the 3070 to drop at $599 to $699 with comparable performance to the 2080S.
     
    Expect the 3080 to drop at around $799 to $999 with comparable performance to the 2080 Ti.
     
    Expect the 3080 Ti to drop at around $1499.
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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/01/31 14:29:35 (permalink)
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    Just wondering if anyone has links to any juicy Ampere news... such as a solid release date, performance specs, pricing, initial lineup?

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    Just guesses.  Don't expect Nivdia to upset their apple cart.  I just saw Best Buy had the founders edition 2080S on sale for $650. 
     
    Expect the 3070 to drop at $599 to $699 with comparable performance to the 2080S.
     
    Expect the 3080 to drop at around $799 to $999 with comparable performance to the 2080 Ti.
     
    Expect the 3080 Ti to drop at around $1499.



    I can agree with the performance listed, but I'm next expecting the prices to get even worse, after a major hike when the 2000 series launched. I'm not so sure I'd believe the rumored price drop (about $100 less than this gen for each card) but I don't expect it to get much worse just yet.
     
    Still, my guess isn't any more valid than yours however, but maybe we'll get more info in a few months (think I heard 2 half of 2020 for the 3000 series) in any case we're not getting farther away from it (time is nice in that it normally goes in one direction, unless it's just an illusion and... *trails off into metaphysical philosophy monologue about the perception and meaning of reality*)
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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/01/31 17:28:40 (permalink)
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    Just wondering if anyone has links to any juicy Ampere news... such as a solid release date, performance specs, pricing, initial lineup?

    Getting ready to dump my old rig and build a new one!




    Just guesses.  Don't expect Nivdia to upset their apple cart.  I just saw Best Buy had the founders edition 2080S on sale for $650. 
     
    Expect the 3070 to drop at $599 to $699 with comparable performance to the 2080S.
     
    Expect the 3080 to drop at around $799 to $999 with comparable performance to the 2080 Ti.
     
    Expect the 3080 Ti to drop at around $1499.



    I can agree with the performance listed, but I'm next expecting the prices to get even worse, after a major hike when the 2000 series launched. I'm not so sure I'd believe the rumored price drop (about $100 less than this gen for each card) but I don't expect it to get much worse just yet.
     
    Still, my guess isn't any more valid than yours however, but maybe we'll get more info in a few months (think I heard 2 half of 2020 for the 3000 series) in any case we're not getting farther away from it (time is nice in that it normally goes in one direction, unless it's just an illusion and... *trails off into metaphysical philosophy monologue about the perception and meaning of reality*)




    Sounds like a reasonable assessment. 
     
    I'm making my guesses based on the price stability of the RTX series over the last 18 months and the inherent bottom end price support of GPU crypo mining - if the cards become cheap and power efficient enough they will become more viable for crypo, thus they just can't get too cheap. Granted there is a single GPU performance price premium vs. the sweet spot for crypto.  I've also set the bottom end of the range in line with the release price of the last series reference cards. 
     
    I highly doubt they are going to release a 3080 at $699 that is as powerful as an A-chip 2080 Ti that still sells for $1199 today, I'd say it's more likely to be $899 and as powerful as a non-A 2080 Ti that's $1099 today.  The $1499 price of the 3080 Ti reflects nosebleed pricing of the most powerful single GPU solution and their potential compute useage vs. workstation cards, assuming it's a true 50% more powerful than a 2080 Ti stock for stock.
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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/02/01 20:17:43 (permalink)
    I can see those as decent reasons, though if you can get 2080 ti performance for $1000 now, offering 2080 ti performance for $1000 later means anyone with a 2080 ti already won't see a point in getting a new card, so targeting people who already have certain cards to replace it with a new one is a factor. Granted, that does mean they are competing with themselves (or their past selves in a way)
     
    Also in the past things like getting one step up in performance for the same price when the next gen comes out is fairly common to my memory, with the latest gen having the largest jump in price for their top cards I've seen and an exception to that rule (in fact first generation I've skip upgrading on since I first started buying GPUs with the GTX 285, because they offered mostly the same performance for the same price)
     
    Also, while my knowledge of crypo is limited, from what I understand it gets harder over time, so any boost it gets more powerful GPUs will level off over time, though how long it takes I don't know.
     
    I'm sure part of my perspective it leaning due to wishful thinking (I want meaning margin upgrade over my 1080 ti for $700 or less, as the 2080 and 2080 super didn't quite get there)
     
    one though on the 3080 ti, is comparing them to workstation cards is more in the range of the Titan RTX (which has been holding the place of somewhere in between Consumer and profession) Though it's possible you could have two cards in that spot.
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    Re: Nvidia Ampere 2020/02/02 11:46:46 (permalink)
    If the new 30 series Ti GPU has 30%-50% more performance & also happens to use less power .. a small retail increase would still be a large decrease in "performance /$$"
     
    2080 Ti @ $1000 = current 100% power
     
    3080 Ti @ $1200 = 130% to 150% power = a nice deal
     
    Its possible the 20 series will drop in price after the launch & the 30 series will be at the current high water mark - however, history says that is not likely to happen
     
    I'm hoping we see more releases of information from Nvidia ... 20 series rumors where Mostly Wrong ...
     
    AMD is the wildcard in this - Nvidia would love for them to be locked into a "new design" then drop their new 30 series cards & blow it away

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