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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/29 14:44:31 (permalink)
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has anyone recieved a notification from any of the stores/sites/anything
since the very release of these cards i have notify me and not 1 has done so
and im talking evga,newegg,nvidia,amazon,b+h,best buy.all nadda !!!!




If you're waiting for an email to alert you stock is available, you will be disappointed. Cards will be long gone before you even receive such an email. 




 
This. You gotta be alert if you're going to be able to snag one this early.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/29 16:28:48 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry too much. Got an order through to an E-Tailer literally 2 mins after release. All deliveries of EVGA have been no show or delayed... Did they not think they would need products to actually sell
 



This may be due to the stability issues EVGA found just before release. It seems that EVGA knew about the boost/OC problems the 30-series cards have and reached out to reviewers to request that they hold off on any opinions until EVGA could remedy the situation.
 
This could also account for the delays you're seeing above. 




Didn't EVGA also state it did not affect the XC3 series only the FTW?
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 03:12:42 (permalink)
Still waiting
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 03:50:20 (permalink)
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Didn't EVGA also state it did not affect the XC3 series only the FTW?


The deliveries in question are most likely delayed due to air space restrictions or planes delays etc, especially since it affects other companies as well and not EVGA. And yes, it did only affect FTW3 series production / launch, and the unstable high clocks was the reason of the delay. As to knowing if it affects people with XC3, there's conflicting statements of customers.

GamersNexus explained on a stream that EVGA told him they were delaying FTW3 because of unstable clocks, he stated that at this time he didn't know the SP-Caps thing yet though.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 04:18:38 (permalink)
I've already seen listings for FTW 3's on Newegg. So, at least some have arrived.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 06:19:53 (permalink)
asus tuf in stock on newegg
 
edit: annnnnnd its gone. that was a nice 15seconds
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 07:30:02 (permalink)
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asus tuf in stock on newegg
 
edit: annnnnnd its gone. that was a nice 15seconds

tuf series is trash


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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 07:40:36 (permalink)
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asus tuf in stock on newegg
 
edit: annnnnnd its gone. that was a nice 15seconds

tuf series is trash



...says no one who has actually seen and used the cards. Jayztwocents actually commented on how well constructed the card is. He had better than FE performance out of his. Also had the 'correct' power design.

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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 07:56:00 (permalink)
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 08:50:15 (permalink)
Hopefully there's stock on EVGA.com next week if they finish the checkout improvements by then. Or maybe together with the 3070 launch :)

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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 10:02:59 (permalink)
I seen me a dodo bird and a unicorny creature thing, I even once saw a politician who told the truth - but i straight up aint never seen one of those 3000 gpu varmints y'all twitchin about.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 10:40:38 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry too much. Got an order through to an E-Tailer literally 2 mins after release. All deliveries of EVGA have been no show or delayed... Did they not think they would need products to actually sell
 



This may be due to the stability issues EVGA found just before release. It seems that EVGA knew about the boost/OC problems the 30-series cards have and reached out to reviewers to request that they hold off on any opinions until EVGA could remedy the situation.
 
This could also account for the delays you're seeing above. 




Didn't EVGA also state it did not affect the XC3 series only the FTW?




From what I've seen, the problem is mostly limited to cards that boost beyond the official specifications (specs: 1710MHz for the 3080 and 1700 for the 3090). This would only impact 2 of the 6 options EVGA has in the 3080 and 3090 XC line. Given that the issue is not guaranteed to impact any particular card, some of those remaining 2 cards will see an impact and some will not (i.e., silicon lottery).
 
To be clear, what I've seen is that it appears that 6 POSCAPS can function without issue as long as the card runs at Nvidia's officially stated specs. The problem seems to be limited to cards that o/c beyond the specs, however slight that o/c is.
 
In other words, Nvidia is pushing these cards to their absolute limit, perhaps because they're worried about Big Navi. But, we'll just have to wait and see if AMD finally delivers a respectable graphics card or if they fall flat on their face... again. 
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 10:51:29 (permalink)
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From what I've seen, the problem is mostly limited to cards that boost beyond the official specifications (specs: 1710MHz for the 3080 and 1700 for the 3090). This would only impact 2 of the 6 options EVGA has in the 3080 and 3090 XC line. Given that the issue is not guaranteed to impact any particular card, some of those remaining 2 cards will see an impact and some will not (i.e., silicon lottery).
 
To be clear, what I've seen is that it appears that 6 POSCAPS can function without issue as long as the card runs at Nvidia's officially stated specs. The problem seems to be limited to cards that o/c beyond the specs, however slight that o/c is.
 
In other words, Nvidia is pushing these cards to their absolute limit, perhaps because they're worried about Big Navi. But, we'll just have to wait and see if AMD finally delivers a respectable graphics card or if they fall flat on their face... again. 


Shunt modding has shown that the chips are being pushed to a power limit.  Give them a little bit more voltage and >2100MHz on the gpu core is possible buuuuut welcome to the pain-train for power consumption.  Derbauer did +60mV but he only had the air cooler to work with...maybe better with waterblock.


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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 11:22:57 (permalink)
Should have kept the inventory for the EVGA store. Its better to have a single store with 500 cards then offloading 500 cards to 20 different stores with each getting a few dozen. None of the retailers can handle the bot traffic etc. So spreading the supply just makes it worse. 
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 12:02:46 (permalink)
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Should have kept the inventory for the EVGA store. Its better to have a single store with 500 cards then offloading 500 cards to 20 different stores with each getting a few dozen. None of the retailers can handle the bot traffic etc. So spreading the supply just makes it worse. 


They have relationships and obligations. Terrible advise


There are people who only shop from newegg/amazon/best buy/ext... you need to be represented there else you not only lose the sale but you have a user gain loyalty to another brand that can last a lifetime.
They also have backorder and stepup fulfilment obligations
 
They did it correctly. Launch with most of their inventory on their own website. Once that ended, focus on the other channels for a bit of time
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 12:56:40 (permalink)
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The checkout process was fine it was just overloaded. I bet this has something to do with poscap-gate.


It has nothing to do with poscap-gate. They're still sending the cards right on out to etailers and retailers (newegg, amazon, BB, etc...). You should maybe go read their statement about it (they already delayed ftw3's to fix it, that's why they didn't release till just before the 24th).

The checkout process was not fine. Not at all. It wasn't built to be scalable to the level needed for the overwhelming amount of traffic that came in and it fell completely apart. It took 1.5 hours to run out of 3090 stock, not because they had more of them than 3080s (which lasted about a half hour) but because the entire checkout system fell to crap and orders were only trickling through in the brief milliseconds between their webservers coming back up and going back down again. 

They're taking a week or two to work on the back end code to make it more scalable, and presumably some extra features/servers to process orders independently of the main checkout system. They're doing it because they started hemorrhaging long-term customers due to how ****ty trying to checkout was.

e.g. I got my CC info in and authorized 16 times over the hour and a half, and none of them went through. It just dumped me back to the start of the checkout process to a completely broken UI because the system couldn't tell where I was supposed to be in the checkout process. No warnings or errors, nothing indicating the order failed to go through once my CC info was in. Nadda. The only reason I knew what was going on was because I was checking my cc for pending charges and I emailed evga's web support to confirm what was happening.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 17:26:54 (permalink)
I suspect this may have worked out for the best.  If there were enough in stock I'd of purchased a FTW but now heck I'll wait to see what  Radeon has to offer.  Sad first non EVGA card in 15 years.  Go Red EVGA lol.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 18:39:08 (permalink)
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I suspect this may have worked out for the best.  If there were enough in stock I'd of purchased a FTW but now heck I'll wait to see what  Radeon has to offer.  Sad first non EVGA card in 15 years.  Go Red EVGA lol.


Lol, there are allot us us ready to hop on the RDNA2 train. I'll try to buy one on launch, what choice do I have I already sold my 10, and 20 series KP cards. I found myself late at night searching through Turing cards on Ebay. Not a good place to be.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 18:40:37 (permalink)
If AMD launches Big Navi GPUs on October 28, I think that may stabilize the supply and demand for Graphics Cards in general and we might see humans being able to purchase cards probably the first 2 weeks of November. If AMD would have launched early, we would not be in this mess.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 18:42:02 (permalink)
Haha i found a local scalper about an hour and a half away selling an FE. Thought maybe he would sell it cheaper... Nope 1500+ firm. 3080 FE. 
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 18:54:40 (permalink)
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Haha i found a local scalper about an hour and a half away selling an FE. Thought maybe he would sell it cheaper... Nope 1500+ firm. 3080 FE. 


I could never bring myself to give someone like that my money. Parasitic opportunist. I will buy bstock before feeding the animals.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 18:58:05 (permalink)
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I suspect this may have worked out for the best.  If there were enough in stock I'd of purchased a FTW but now heck I'll wait to see what  Radeon has to offer.  Sad first non EVGA card in 15 years.  Go Red EVGA lol.


Lol, there are allot us us ready to hop on the RDNA2 train. I'll try to buy one on launch, what choice do I have I already sold my 10, and 20 series KP cards. I found myself late at night searching through Turing cards on Ebay. Not a good place to be.



People keep saying that, but roughly no one that wanted a 3080 or 3090 and consistently buys top end cards is going to end up actually settling for an AMD that's roughly equivalent to a 2080ti/3070 (which is most likely where their top card will land, given reality).

People upgrading from 10xx or 2070 and below might, if there's actual stock, since those would at least be upgrades (and there won't be stock at first, they'll get hit just as hard).
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 19:02:05 (permalink)
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I suspect this may have worked out for the best.  If there were enough in stock I'd of purchased a FTW but now heck I'll wait to see what  Radeon has to offer.  Sad first non EVGA card in 15 years.  Go Red EVGA lol.


Lol, there are allot us us ready to hop on the RDNA2 train. I'll try to buy one on launch, what choice do I have I already sold my 10, and 20 series KP cards. I found myself late at night searching through Turing cards on Ebay. Not a good place to be.



People keep saying that, but roughly no one that wanted a 3080 or 3090 and consistently buys top end cards is going to end up actually settling for an AMD that's roughly equivalent to a 2080ti/3070 (which is most likely where their top card will land, given reality).

People upgrading from 10xx or 2070 and below might, if there's actual stock, since those would at least be upgrades (and there won't be stock at first, they'll get hit just as hard).


Hey man if its all I can get and it cheaper than a 2080ti than I'll post a pick in this forum if I can get one.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 20:11:37 (permalink)
Jacob on twitter mentioned they are targeting evga.com restocks next week. Hopefully, we will see some more stock. 

https://twitter.com/jdyla...us/1311372807167709184

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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/09/30 20:44:22 (permalink)
EVGA and Nvidia have thumbed their noses at loyal customers too many times for me.  I'll wait and buy AMD if it takes until next year to get it.  


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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/10/01 01:45:25 (permalink)
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asus tuf in stock on newegg

edit: annnnnnd its gone. that was a nice 15seconds

tuf series is trash



...says no one who has actually seen and used the cards. Jayztwocents actually commented on how well constructed the card is. He had better than FE performance out of his. Also had the 'correct' power design.


 
Yeah, from what I hear the Asus cards are actually pretty solid, though I'm sticking with EVGA atm. It's not worth arguing though, whenever you end up at a brand community (the Nvidia subreddit, the EVGA forums, etc) objective thought is the last thing you should expect. They're pretty much also the only places you can't fault for have an infestation of fanbois, as cringey and painful as their blind zeal is to read. And, thus, remarks like this guy where he swoops in, throws out a defensive grunt that immediately shows a lack of knowledge and arbitrarily makes a statement without fact, and then away he goes.

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I suspect this may have worked out for the best.  If there were enough in stock I'd of purchased a FTW but now heck I'll wait to see what  Radeon has to offer.  Sad first non EVGA card in 15 years.  Go Red EVGA lol.


Lol, there are allot us us ready to hop on the RDNA2 train. I'll try to buy one on launch, what choice do I have I already sold my 10, and 20 series KP cards. I found myself late at night searching through Turing cards on Ebay. Not a good place to be.



People keep saying that, but roughly no one that wanted a 3080 or 3090 and consistently buys top end cards is going to end up actually settling for an AMD that's roughly equivalent to a 2080ti/3070 (which is most likely where their top card will land, given reality).

People upgrading from 10xx or 2070 and below might, if there's actual stock, since those would at least be upgrades (and there won't be stock at first, they'll get hit just as hard).



The AMD card is supposed to be very close to a 3080, actually, and if it's priced a good deal better then a ton of people will jump on it. You're right that many enthusiasts like us who favor raw capability a bit more than the price/performance metric won't care, and there are other considerations (I have a monitor that uses actual gsync and I value DLSS highly), but overall I hope AMD does pull demand away. It's going to be good for longterm competition anyways, and it'll make it easier for me to get my card, lol.
 
Also, AMD said they don't have the same stock issue Nvidia does. I doubt it's completely true, but they've been making their chips for a while now, with a partner that's been doing it for a while, so yields should be high. Unlike Nvidia, who basically had wrangled Samsung into making the chips and are suffering low initial yields, likely. While they probably WILL get hard, I expect supply to be far better for AMD than it is now for Nvidia.
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/10/01 08:45:03 (permalink)
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Yeah, from what I hear the Asus cards are actually pretty solid, though I'm sticking with EVGA atm. It's not worth arguing though, whenever you end up at a brand community (the Nvidia subreddit, the EVGA forums, etc) objective thought is the last thing you should expect. They're pretty much also the only places you can't fault for have an infestation of fanbois, as cringey and painful as their blind zeal is to read. And, thus, remarks like this guy where he swoops in, throws out a defensive grunt that immediately shows a lack of knowledge and arbitrarily makes a statement without fact, and then away he goes.

 
Personally, I hate ASUS. I've used a lot of ASUS products and feel that too much of their budget is spent on market and bling and too little on engineering and quality. Maybe they've improved over the last few years, but I'm not giving them another chance. The thing that bothered me the most was how long it took them to get BIOS updates out.
 
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The AMD card is supposed to be very close to a 3080, actually, and if it's priced a good deal better then a ton of people will jump on it. You're right that many enthusiasts like us who favor raw capability a bit more than the price/performance metric won't care, and there are other considerations (I have a monitor that uses actual gsync and I value DLSS highly), but overall I hope AMD does pull demand away. It's going to be good for longterm competition anyways, and it'll make it easier for me to get my card, lol.
 
Also, AMD said they don't have the same stock issue Nvidia does. I doubt it's completely true, but they've been making their chips for a while now, with a partner that's been doing it for a while, so yields should be high. Unlike Nvidia, who basically had wrangled Samsung into making the chips and are suffering low initial yields, likely. While they probably WILL get hard, I expect supply to be far better for AMD than it is now for Nvidia.



As you mentioned, AMD is using TSMC and that has proven to be a good choice as Nvidia has had some growing-pains with Samsung.
 
TBH, I wasn't really interested in Big Navi, but YouTubers "Moore's Law is Dead" and RedGamingTech both speak very highly of BigNavi and they've proven to be accurate and reliable. That and AMD does seem to be better under Lisa Su's leadership, as Ryzen 2 has been very impressive and it looks like Ryzen 3 will break 5GHz and might take the gaming crown (if early leaks are correct), leaving Intel with nothing competitive (maybe Adobe Photoshop benchmarks).
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/10/01 08:55:58 (permalink)
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Yeah, from what I hear the Asus cards are actually pretty solid, though I'm sticking with EVGA atm. It's not worth arguing though, whenever you end up at a brand community (the Nvidia subreddit, the EVGA forums, etc) objective thought is the last thing you should expect. They're pretty much also the only places you can't fault for have an infestation of fanbois, as cringey and painful as their blind zeal is to read. And, thus, remarks like this guy where he swoops in, throws out a defensive grunt that immediately shows a lack of knowledge and arbitrarily makes a statement without fact, and then away he goes.

 
Personally, I hate ASUS. I've used a lot of ASUS products and feel that too much of their budget is spent on market and bling and too little on engineering and quality. Maybe they've improved over the last few years, but I'm not giving them another chance. The thing that bothered me the most was how long it took them to get BIOS updates out.
 
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The AMD card is supposed to be very close to a 3080, actually, and if it's priced a good deal better then a ton of people will jump on it. You're right that many enthusiasts like us who favor raw capability a bit more than the price/performance metric won't care, and there are other considerations (I have a monitor that uses actual gsync and I value DLSS highly), but overall I hope AMD does pull demand away. It's going to be good for longterm competition anyways, and it'll make it easier for me to get my card, lol.
 
Also, AMD said they don't have the same stock issue Nvidia does. I doubt it's completely true, but they've been making their chips for a while now, with a partner that's been doing it for a while, so yields should be high. Unlike Nvidia, who basically had wrangled Samsung into making the chips and are suffering low initial yields, likely. While they probably WILL get hard, I expect supply to be far better for AMD than it is now for Nvidia.



As you mentioned, AMD is using TSMC and that has proven to be a good choice as Nvidia has had some growing-pains with Samsung.
 
TBH, I wasn't really interested in Big Navi, but YouTubers "Moore's Law is Dead" and RedGamingTech both speak very highly of BigNavi and they've proven to be accurate and reliable. That and AMD does seem to be better under Lisa Su's leadership, as Ryzen 2 has been very impressive and it looks like Ryzen 3 will break 5GHz and might take the gaming crown (if early leaks are correct), leaving Intel with nothing competitive (maybe Adobe Photoshop benchmarks).




I consider Asus overall high, though like most broadly spread out makers, they have their hits and misses. Generally, they make laptops/chromebooks, monitors, etc and do better more often than not. Their support is literal garbage though, to the point where I'd seriously consider just throwing away an Asus product rather than trying to get warranty on it. As for AMD, it seems that the 30xx series feel right within their predicted range in terms of cost and performance, so if they're still being cocky as all f about it, I guess it's good news for the industry. The problem is that we DON'T want a situation like with Intel right now, because then AMD will just fing become Intel and start charging 60% premiums. From what I hear though, Intel is recovering, though it's going to take some work to get fully back in the game... that's okay though. AMD already prove it can be done and is worth doing, lol.
 
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Re: No new stock in EVGA store this week 2020/10/01 09:22:34 (permalink)
ccoyne83
Should have kept the inventory for the EVGA store. Its better to have a single store with 500 cards then offloading 500 cards to 20 different stores with each getting a few dozen. None of the retailers can handle the bot traffic etc. So spreading the supply just makes it worse. 




No way. You have a better chance on a real etailer site than EVGA's site. EVGA has a storefront that can handle maybe 100tpm. I am gratified they put them somewhere that can handle the traffic.

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