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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/10 06:02:42
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Makes me wonder, are the back order included on these? If so, well, It will take some time to arrive for me.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/10 07:31:17
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ah, well, I still have to save up more money for the rest of my parts, anyway. Who knows, maybe there will be some good Black Friday deals for Z270 boards and 76/7700k CPUs. Both would be a pretty significant upgrade for me.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/10 07:45:27
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If you look at Intel's product list it hardly makes sense. Seems they are trying very hard to ensure AMD does not regain ANY market share no matter how much it costs, overlapping their own products with performance. For example, what was the point of Kaby Lake-X? Performance wise it's no better than its 7700K predecessor except that if you wanted to upgrade you need a nice new, and expensive, X299 MB to go with it. Then Coffee Lake was released what, a few months later? Anyone that bought the 7740X, 7820X or hell, even the 7900X must be kicking themselves in the teeth. What a colossal waste of money. Just to put it in perspective, the 7740X, for example, is stuck between it's older Kaby Lake sibling which has comparable performance at lesser value, and the 8700K which has better performance for little additional value. Hopefully no one bought this X chip. Is there a chance no one was that stupid? Seems Intel has more competition than they thought. They are competing with a resurgent AMD and Intel themselves.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/10 21:12:18
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Seems they were unprepared for this rollout.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/12 19:51:26
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XrayMan Seems they were unprepared for this rollout.
Tends to happen when launching a product three months early!
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/12 22:31:38
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XrayMan Seems they were unprepared for this rollout.
Tends to happen when launching a product three months early!
AMD took a big chunk of sales from Intel but Intel's response is not so good. Releasing a CPU before plenty of stock is available is a poor business model.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/13 07:03:31
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XrayMan Seems they were unprepared for this rollout.
Tends to happen when launching a product three months early!
AMD took a big chunk of sales from Intel but Intel's response is not so good. Releasing a CPU before plenty of stock is available is a poor business model.
Based on a lot of comments I have been reading...AMD might just take another chunk out of Intel, right now. Many angry people. Intel is not fostering a lot of trust right now.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/13 10:08:09
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rjohnson11 AMD took a big chunk of sales from Intel but Intel's response is not so good. Releasing a CPU before plenty of stock is available is a poor business model.
Neither is releasing 1000 new CPU's in 2 months. Skylake was succeeded by Kaby Lake, both of which saw optimization in the form of Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X. The former was an HEDT platform but I'm not sure what the purpose of the other was, because just a few months after release of the 7740X Coffee Lake comes along with, you guessed it, yet ANOTHER new incompatible chipset and rendered the 6700K, 7700K, 7740X and even up to Skylake-X 7900X as irrational purchases given the reasonable 6 core chip pricing. People that went that route before Coffee must be feeling like suckers. I mean really, what are they doing over there at Intel? It's like the Starbucks of Silicon Valley. Give people lots of stupid options and were sure to dominate the market.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/13 11:10:36
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somebody messed up at Intel,all this talk about being the best gaming cpu and you cant even get one come on.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/15 06:45:17
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panzlock If you look at Intel's product list it hardly makes sense. Seems they are trying very hard to ensure AMD does not regain ANY market share no matter how much it costs, overlapping their own products with performance. For example, what was the point of Kaby Lake-X? Performance wise it's no better than its 7700K predecessor except that if you wanted to upgrade you need a nice new, and expensive, X299 MB to go with it. Then Coffee Lake was released what, a few months later? Anyone that bought the 7740X, 7820X or hell, even the 7900X must be kicking themselves in the teeth. What a colossal waste of money. Just to put it in perspective, the 7740X, for example, is stuck between it's older Kaby Lake sibling which has comparable performance at lesser value, and the 8700K which has better performance for little additional value. Hopefully no one bought this X chip. Is there a chance no one was that stupid? Seems Intel has more competition than they thought. They are competing with a resurgent AMD and Intel themselves.
People who invested in X299 no reason to be angry or feel bad because i7-8700K. He is pure gaming platform and capability of X299 and life time is far longer. Even I on X99 from 2014 could buy i7-6950X for 2 years and OC to 4.3GHz and I will be in line with Skylake-X or successor. That will be 6 years of platform. People with X299 have even better option, what you think how much will price of i9-7890X drop for 3 years. But he could be used longer than SR-2 and Xeons. Such platforms always have customers. They could play all games with same enjoying as people with i7-8700K. Fps difference will mean nothing with SLI of high end graphic cards. But i7-8700K will never have chance to replace them for any serious work. Only is problem because advantages of X299 over Z370 cost. You need to invest at least 500$ for memory only and at least i9-7900X to use 44 PCI-E lanes. Only reason for anger is thermal paste and because i7-7820X have no full PCI-E lanes. Now someone to ask me I would rather take Rampage VI Apex and i7-7820X than Maximus X Apex and i7-8700K no matter on fps difference. I don't care for such small fps because X299 leave me much more choices for future and Z370 will be replaced for 10 months. Yes i7-8700K is great CPU, exactly what customers need, but still not reason for upgrade for guys with 6 cores. Haswell-E and Broadwell-E 6 cores overclocked is still good. It's easy to compare i7-8700K and i7-5820K out of box. But mine OC 1000MHz+ and Coffee Lake 200MHz over Turbo. Coffee Lake i7-8700K is launched pushed so much... Imagine i7-5820K/i7-5930K with 4.2GHz Turbo instead 500-600MHz lower.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/15 13:48:15
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Surprising to see Intel failing a product launch like this. Anyone remembers the last time Intel had manufacturing issues immediately after the launch ?
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/15 13:53:36
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Sounds like they chose poorly to take the Nintendo route and produce smaller stock without understanding the overall demand for said product would happen. I read up on Nintendo producing a smaller stock of Switches due to them not wanting to be left with a excess amount of Wii U systems. That was a bad move considering what's been happening lately and seems like as I said Intel pulled a Nintendo.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/15 15:17:12
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rjohnson11 It is hard to believe Intel can't provide enough stock to it's retailers/distributors. I think Intel has pushed too hard to try and combat AMD RYZEN sales.
Paper launches have that effect. It's a typical political reaction. Be seen as doing something...anything...to combat negative news.
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/15 22:10:44
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rmorse27 somebody messed up at Intel,all this talk about being the best gaming cpu and you cant even get one come on.
LOL. So true. =)
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/15 22:15:04
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Well, if resellers dont jack up the prices because of In-damand, GPU's, Ram, while not Intel....
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Re: Newegg does not expect new i7 8700K stock for at least three weeks
2017/10/15 22:42:08
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Really it makes sense since we saw people who wanted to see these CPU's and the benchmarks. Now that it's "released" people are considering them and will wait until they are in stock. Without these CPU's "launch date" and the benchmarks AMD would have done much better to pull ahead. For a long time before they came out we heard people on the forums talking about waiting to see the Intel numbers and not wanting to pull the trigger on AMD until after October 5th.
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