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2018/12/28 02:24:25 (permalink)
Planning to upgrade from 3rd generation processor to Intel Core i5-9600K since I wanna go big for PC  gaming.

I have a question can I play good fps with  BenQ 1080p monitor with 60hz at the moment? I need to buy a 1440hz monitor or 120hz? but I cannot afford it at the moment. Will I face issues if I stay with my 60hz for the moment?

(Previous build currently)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K overclocked to 4.4ghz auto voltage.

Computer Case: NZXT Phantom 820 Gunmetal case. (need a new case) Has bad wiring split due to Power Panel Connectors? Had to boot the motherboard using the screwdriver method.

PU: Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB SSC version from Best Buy.

SSD: Samsung 830 256GB (2012)

HDD: WD Black 1TB (2010)

HDD: WD Blue 500GB (2010)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 C9 4x4GB (bought in 2013)

MBD: Asus SABERTOOTH Z77 Motherboard (2013) recent bios updated.

Monitor: BENQ 1920X1080p  60HZ 4ms (2014) <--very old! May want a new monitor but meh! I am okay with it.  Link (https://www.newegg.com/Pr...?Item=N82E16824014299)
Operating System: Windows 10 64bit.

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New Build here:
Intel Core i5-9600K  (Do want a 9700k but too expensive)

CORSAIR - VENGEANCE LPX Series 16GB (2PK 8GB) 3.0GHz DDR4 Desktop Memory - Black
Model:CMK16GX4M2B3000C15

ASUS - TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING (WI-FI) (Socket LGA1151) USB 3.1 Gen 1 Intel Motherboard

Corsair H150i or H100i cooler

EVGA 850 BQ Power Supply

(Rest of SSD and Hard Drive up above connected) I will upgrade these later when I have the rest of the money to upgrade the small drives.)

BENQ 1920X1080p 60hz.  (I wanna upgrade!)

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/28 16:03:47 (permalink)
    A lot of people were saying TUF motherboards are horrible. I am torn what motherboard I need right away. I need to figure out what I can get either from Best Buy or Micro Center. My aunt has a credit card for Best Buy but I really rather Micro Center. They have everything I need to access to build a new system not to mention they compare prices to NewEgg. I need some help now before my aunt comes in an hour lol.

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/28 16:09:44 (permalink)
    Perhaps a 8700k is more afforable for now. I do want a 9600k or 9700k but I guess it's cheaper that way for now. I am picky but o well. Now I need to figure out what is a good motherboard at the moment.

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/28 16:31:07 (permalink)
    Then again screw it 9600k is nice!

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/28 16:34:29 (permalink)
    Still I don't like how the 9600k has no hyperthreading!~

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/28 20:54:32 (permalink)
     
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/28 21:11:17 (permalink)
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    Still I don't like how the 9600k has no hyperthreading!~

    Then go for the Intel® Core™ i7-9700K Processor
    Compared It will cost more now for a CPU with HT.
     
    Being that you are asking this on EVGA's Forum you should review EVGA's Motherboards.
     
    Though I was shock not to see any Z370 MB on the Website.
    I guess EVGA Z390 FTW, 123-CS-E397-KR, LGA 1151, Intel Z390, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.1, USB 3.0, ATX, Intel Motherboard Zero Stock ATM
    You missed a lot of deals at the start of December, a lot of them.
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/29 06:19:29 (permalink)
    If you are going to microcenter I always just get whatever asus board they have for like 130. That way it's not the budget one, but it's not the expensive one, and you get the bundle discount. I'm always going to be partial to Asus for boards, it's just my preference. 
     
     
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/29 06:55:31 (permalink)
    On the other hand I hate ASUS motherboards with a passion. While it is true that I have switched to AMD Threadripper socket motherboards I still see companies like ASRock doing a good job for both Intel and AMD.

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/29 13:12:01 (permalink)
    ASUS make some nice motherboards, same with ASRock. You don't need a 850W power supply for that system. Don't cheap out by getting a Bronze rated power supply.
     
    This power supply below is a bit overkill for that system but it's $60 after rabate.
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/29 19:40:01 (permalink)
    If you're gonna upgrade, get what you want now, because you probably won't upgrade again for another couple of years.
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/29 20:13:40 (permalink)
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    Perhaps a 8700k is more afforable for now. I do want a 9600k or 9700k but I guess it's cheaper that way for now. I am picky but o well. Now I need to figure out what is a good motherboard at the moment.




    I prefer a delidded 8700K. Thermals are better, it costs a bit less. Mine doesnt get over 5GHz OC (some can but mine cant, 9th gen does even better) but I still prefered it. The 9th gen processors just run too hot for my taste, yeah Intel soldered them but they could have done a better job on that. Plus the 8700k has hyper threading, if you like that kinda thing. I dunno your taste.
     
    As for mother boards. Thats where I dont like to cheap out. The PSU and Motehrboard are the 2 things I wouldnt ever cheap out on. The PSU, if it has problems, can kill your whole RIG. When I replace the motherboard, its basically when Im doing a while new RIG. So I usually like to get a quaility one to last a few builds. Though they usually dont make it a couple builds as I get new parts, Im comforted knowing I COULD make the motherboard last a long time and several builds. 
     
    For the monitor, its always nice to have a fancy picture but to me, this is one thing that can be upgraded later. Yeah, I know its basically paying for frame rates you cant use when you build a mega PC and use a old monitor....but if you need to cut costs, you can always get a better monitor later with nearly zero effort needed to get it working. Its not like cheaping out on a processor or MB and needing to do a tear down to upgrade. 
     
     
    Harddrives, I would consider upgrading to some newer drives. They are only good for so many TBs of writes. I dont know how many writes you have on them but a couple are nearly a decade old. Not saying get rid of them. I still have a HDD from 2012 in my RIG, but I use it for storage and storage only. I dont like to put my OS on anything older than 2 years, if I can afford it. What I do is probably overkill but thats my preference, hence why I opt to run several drives instead of 1 huge drive. older ones get moved down the line as the new "OS DRIVE" gets installed.
     
     
     
    Im not the best at budgeting a build. This is just my personal advice and preferences. Take it as you will and with a grain of salt.
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/30 04:20:36 (permalink)
    I like the 8700k. It's similar to my 6850k. Handles like a stallion. I'd definitely try to pinch pennies everywhere else to reward yourself with the step up to i7 for a more buttery experience.
     
    Jusy my 2 cents. Everthing else sounds solid!
     
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2018/12/30 23:57:58 (permalink)
    Since you are gaming, I would consider the i5-8600k, 6 real cores and maybe can get to 5ghz. Save some $$ for other parts.
    I have an Asrock z370 sli3 A/C nice MB, also have an EVGA z370 FTW with a i7-8086k. 
    I like the i5-8600k just as much. The EVGA z370 FTW  board works good, no issues, as does the Asrock
    Get good memory, 3ghz,  3200ghz or better, maybe OC it a bit too. I like GSkill memory. 16gb is a good amount of ram.
    Like said  before, go for a good PSU, gold or platinum. If just one GPU get a 650w to 750w, should be enough. EVGA, seasonic......
    Don't get a cheap no name brand PSU, get a good one. 
    The EVGA 240mm CPU cooler is on sale at newegg right now for 79$, I have a couple and they work good and have a good warranty.
    Get a 250gb SSD for the OS and important programs, antivirus ect... and a good drive for the games and other "stuff" pics and whatnot.
    Can get a couple 7500RPM sata3 drives and raid them if you like. Two 2TB  will be 4TB of space.
     
     

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/01 01:15:52 (permalink)
    Thanks for the advice guys. I am only weighting between the i7 8700k and i7 9700k so far.  The i7-8086k would be superb to have but I might be on a tight budget. Is there anything wrong with having my current new EVGA power supply? I have a EVGA 850 BQ watt. I was told it's fine for newer upgrades. I know a montior would be the least worries I have for a new upgrade but I intend to get a new monitor after I get the new build ready. Right now I have a problem. My NZXT Phantom 820 has a broken power SW panel connector and the wires are split badly. I had to take the cables off completely and cannot use all of the panel power connectors and boot my motherboard via flathead screwdriver. It sucks. I have been noticing all of my games render late in the game. It could be due to the fact that my video card has memory thermal issues and I personally never bothered to change the oil seepage sticking out. I was told by EVGA tech support that I have nothing to worry about it's normal for 10 series cards to have this. I am tempted to RMA this since it has 1 more year warranty.  I am unsure about buying the TUF boards since it has no overclocking features but I was told it has lousy VRM even though it's a budget price to buy one and I am not sure what I should get. I am still leaning towards the ASUS Rog Strix Gaming E motherboard but I'll look into this EVGA motherboard you mentioned. No idea if it's a wonderful motherboard. I never owned a EVGA motherboard all my life. I had this Asus Sabertooth z77 for seven years now since it's 2019. (Happy New Years!)
     
    I am so due for a upgrade badly. Need a whole new build. The only new thing I have is my Firecuda 1tb Seagate hard drive, EVGA 850 Watt power supply and Corsair h100iv2 cooler. I may consider a new cooler but I am willing to try thermal again for old time's sake if nessecary to save money. I can always get another cooler and keep the H100iv2 as backup lol. I am grateful the EVGA power supply has a PSU tester. This comes in handy!  Now as for the case I may get NZXT H700I or something bigger. I like clean strict cable management and easy to navigate. Airflow is important to me the fact that I live in a dusty house. I need to move soon when I get the chance. 
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    ASUS make some nice motherboards, same with ASRock. You don't need a 850W power supply for that system. Don't cheap out by getting a Bronze rated power supply.
     
    "This power supply below is a bit overkill for that system but it's $60 after rabate."
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    Are you serious? My power supply is overkill for my system? Why? I was told it was fine by EVGA tech support? Can a bigger power supply hurt the system? Would this new power supply I owe be fine for the new build anyways?
     
     
    One more thing. I don't really plan to overclock but I'd like to so I rather leave it at stock since the processor runs great. I mean both of these processors turbo boosts up to 4ghz and up and it's good enough anyways. Sure overclocking will make it much powerful but I am afraid of destroying the lifespan on it. I only personally know how to overclock them on stock voltage but not manual voltages and I have no extreme education on that expertise yet. I can learn but I want the PC to last for years to come so I may pass off overclocking and it won't be a big deal.
     
    Do you know a good ASUS TUF motherboard I should try leaning towards to or go ahead stick with the ASUS Rog Strix Gaming E? I don't mind try the EVGA motherboard but I am unsure if it's good enough. Micro Center has tons of motherboards on sale at the moment and I need to make a decision soon so I can get started with the new build.  I saw a few good TUF boards on sale but unsure about the rest of the other Asus motherboards such as Gaming E and etc.  Any recommendations? I want a solid motherboard that can last for years like my Sabertooth. I got so lucky having it last for 7 years. Most of my games have some texture render late problems and I have a feeling my PC is about to have it's end of life at the moment or it could be anything else.
     
    Right now my panel connector is ruined and I cannot boot it. I need a new case badly rofl. What a bad timing and at least I'll get this figured out.
     
    Advice would be great.
     
    I may consider a brand new SSD too. Would love some recommendations.
     
    Hard Drives too. Give me a good list for a ulitmate gaming system please if you can  as reference and we'll go from there. Thanks!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     




     
     
     

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/01 04:43:29 (permalink)
    Anyone think EVGA 1060 6GB SSC is okay for the Asus ROG Strix Gaming-E motherboard or do you really need a video card that matches it? I am sure my EVGA 850 Watt would be fine for the rig too? Or do I need to upgrade to the Asus ROG Strix 1060 card or EVGA 1070 or 1080?
     
    I plan to either get a i7 8700k but I am desiring the i7 9700k for more performance. Advice?
     

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/01 14:07:03 (permalink)
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    Perhaps a 8700k is more afforable for now. I do want a 9600k or 9700k but I guess it's cheaper that way for now. I am picky but o well. Now I need to figure out what is a good motherboard at the moment.




    I prefer a delidded 8700K. Thermals are better, it costs a bit less. Mine doesnt get over 5GHz OC (some can but mine cant, 9th gen does even better) but I still prefered it. The 9th gen processors just run too hot for my taste, yeah Intel soldered them but they could have done a better job on that. Plus the 8700k has hyper threading, if you like that kinda thing. I dunno your taste.
     
    As for mother boards. Thats where I dont like to cheap out. The PSU and Motehrboard are the 2 things I wouldnt ever cheap out on. The PSU, if it has problems, can kill your whole RIG. When I replace the motherboard, its basically when Im doing a while new RIG. So I usually like to get a quaility one to last a few builds. Though they usually dont make it a couple builds as I get new parts, Im comforted knowing I COULD make the motherboard last a long time and several builds. 
     
    For the monitor, its always nice to have a fancy picture but to me, this is one thing that can be upgraded later. Yeah, I know its basically paying for frame rates you cant use when you build a mega PC and use a old monitor....but if you need to cut costs, you can always get a better monitor later with nearly zero effort needed to get it working. Its not like cheaping out on a processor or MB and needing to do a tear down to upgrade. 
     
     
    Harddrives, I would consider upgrading to some newer drives. They are only good for so many TBs of writes. I dont know how many writes you have on them but a couple are nearly a decade old. Not saying get rid of them. I still have a HDD from 2012 in my RIG, but I use it for storage and storage only. I dont like to put my OS on anything older than 2 years, if I can afford it. What I do is probably overkill but thats my preference, hence why I opt to run several drives instead of 1 huge drive. older ones get moved down the line as the new "OS DRIVE" gets installed.
     
     
     
    Im not the best at budgeting a build. This is just my personal advice and preferences. Take it as you will and with a grain of salt.


     MY OS is on my SSD though not my HDD though. The only new HDD I currently have is the FireCuda Seagate 1tb HDD. All my games are on this.

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/01 14:18:46 (permalink)
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    ASUS make some nice motherboards, same with ASRock. You don't need a 850W power supply for that system. Don't cheap out by getting a Bronze rated power supply.
     
    This power supply below is a bit overkill for that system but it's $60 after rabate.
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    $59.99 after $20.00 rebate card (rebate form)
    This offer is valid for purchases on or between December 25, 2018, and December 31, 2018
     
     
     
     


    One more thing as for the build are you talking about the new build or my Sabertooth z77?  What's wrong with the current 850 watt I have now? I was told it's okay for my current system. Are you talking about the other motherboard, the TUF one? I plan to get Asus Rog Strix Gaming E since there are tons of benchmarks for it. What PSU would I need if I were to get that? I need a perfect build.
     
    Get back to me.
     
     

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/01 19:55:27 (permalink)
    I was at Micro Center today and a worker told me my PSU is fine for my GPU and there shouldn't be any problems using this current PSU for the old build and new one. What gives? Why did someone recommend me a lower PSU? It is just because I picked a Bronze version?

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/01 20:38:17 (permalink)
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    I was at Micro Center today and a worker told me my PSU is fine for my GPU and there shouldn't be any problems using this current PSU for the old build and new one. What gives? Why did someone recommend me a lower PSU? It is just because I picked a Bronze version?



    A general rule of thumb is that higher rated power supplies tend to last longer and deliver cleaner power. (general consensus is, the higher the rating the better the  performance and longer it will last) However, there is nothing wrong with using the 850 BR you have.
     
     
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    Anyone think EVGA 1060 6GB SSC is okay for the Asus ROG Strix Gaming-E motherboard or do you really need a video card that matches it? I am sure my EVGA 850 Watt would be fine for the rig too? Or do I need to upgrade to the Asus ROG Strix 1060 card or EVGA 1070 or 1080?
     
    I plan to either get a i7 8700k but I am desiring the i7 9700k for more performance. Advice?



    An Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB is an Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB no matter who "makes" it. The differentiators are the cooling solution and the factory overclock. (your GTX 1060 is just fine as long as it gives you the frame-rate and thermals you want) Aesthetics on the other hand are a personal preference.
     
     
    Good luck with your build!
     
     




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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/03 01:08:56 (permalink)
    Thanks I appreciate it. I wonder if I should get it RMA anyways? Cuz I don't like how the video card has oil seepage on it. I really should use rubbing alcohol and clean it. I was told the thermal memory pads should be changed and etc but I don't wanna do that and I have no experience in that but not that I cannot learn how to do it but I never once had a video card that has that kind of problem. If I were to upgrade my current video card with my old current system should I keep the same video card or go different? I still rather keep my EVGA 1060 SSC 6GB but I think the overclocks are too strong for my CPU but I could be wrong. I'm just concerned that's all. I always wanted a standard 1060 6gb card instead of the OC version.
     
    I'll start the new build when the time comes. Thanks for the advice. I thought of getting a 1070 or 1080 for the new build though. Undecided at the moment. I only have one year warranty left on the card.

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/03 15:00:48 (permalink)
    Thermal Pad oil seepage is normal.
    If you want to clean it off use 99% Alcohol like Swan Isopropyl Alcohol, 99%, Pint, 16 OZ
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/04 01:02:20 (permalink)
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    ASUS make some nice motherboards, same with ASRock. You don't need a 850W power supply for that system. Don't cheap out by getting a Bronze rated power supply.
     
    This power supply below is a bit overkill for that system but it's $60 after rabate.
    Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular
    $59.99 after $20.00 rebate card (rebate form)
    This offer is valid for purchases on or between December 25, 2018, and December 31, 2018
     
     
     
     


    One more thing as for the build are you talking about the new build or my Sabertooth z77?  What's wrong with the current 850 watt I have now? I was told it's okay for my current system. Are you talking about the other motherboard, the TUF one? I plan to get Asus Rog Strix Gaming E since there are tons of benchmarks for it. What PSU would I need if I were to get that? I need a perfect build.
     
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    The 850W Bronze power supply will work, just like any 500-1000w power supply will.
     
    What gets me is people don't blink an eye at spending $250+ on a motherboard, $300+ on a CPU, $350+ on a GPU. When it comes to the power supply, they go with a cheap 80 Plus White or Bronze rated power supply. 
     
    I'm curious, how much hot air can you feel coming out of that 850W (BR) 80 Plus Bronze power supply. I'm wondering if 80 Plus Bronze PSU are still mini heaters or not.
     
     
     


     
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/14 09:41:36 (permalink)
    MSim
    ASUS make some nice motherboards, same with ASRock. You don't need a 850W power supply for that system. Don't cheap out by getting a Bronze rated power supply.
     
    This power supply below is a bit overkill for that system but it's $60 after rabate.
    Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-750FX 750W 80+ Gold ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular
    $59.99 after $20.00 rebate card (rebate form)
    This offer is valid for purchases on or between December 25, 2018, and December 31, 2018
     
     
     
     I did a caculator to see what is good wattage for my current system and it shows the wattage is 481 approx. So I assume a 650 watt psu would do but why a 750? Would a 750 be fine?
     
    I caculated here https://seasonic.com/wattage-calculator
     
    However, I have an i7 8700k on the way and I am still researching what is the best motherboard for this and might possibly get an Asus Rog Strix Z370 or Z390 Gaming E motherboard and 16 gigs of ram. Not sure if I can afford 32 gigs but may take a leap of faith and maybe go for it but the thing is I have to stick with my gpu for now til I get a powerful one like a 1070 or 1080ti. I am already running a 1920x1080p 60hz monitor with dual link dvi-d which I know I don't need but that cable comes in handy if I am gonna get a bigger monitor that supports up to 120hz unless I am willing to stick with 1080p 60hz but I'd love to try 1440p.
     
    Ram brands would likely be Corsair since they have lifetime warranty but GSkill isn't bad.
     
    Least last I would use a new SSD and Hard Drive. I am already rocking a brand new Seagate Firecuda Hard Drive but it runs 5400 rpm. I think the higher the number the better since the i7 8700k can kill anything. One more thing. I am tempted to overclock it but I likely will NOT at all because it can run like a champ.
     
    Everyone is telling me Tuf motherboards aren't that good but I have a Sabertooth z77 here for more than 7 years. It's solid and runs like a champ. Makes me wonder if the other motherboards are good but I may stick with something better. It's so hard to find a good motherboard that has a bios flashback button which is easier to navigate or a power on button inside the case. I need the best of the best. I don't want a crappy computer anymore.
    I play high demanding games and I already own Star Citzen access to alpha stages since I pledged it for years. My current PC cannot run it anymore well and it's like below 40fps and drops. I bet the new build would run like amazing!
     I will make a new thread this week on assisting a new build.
     





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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/14 15:14:36 (permalink)
    A 750w would be fine, the main reason i linked that 750W Gold Rated unit, it was due to the price at the time. It was cheaper to get a 750W over a 650W power supply.
     
    With Corsair, you pay a premium for branding only. Most of the memory on the market comes with a limited lifetime warranty. I been using G.Skill memory for years now.
     
    With each new generation of hardware, it's best to do new research to find out what the top mfg have to offer, don't have blind brand loyalty. Sometimes hardware mfg will reduce features or use lower quality or older parts to increase profits. 16GB of RAM should be fine for a gaming rig. It all depends on how much you want to spend on the system.
     
    I went a little overboard with my Z270 system. I bought G.Skill 2x16GB of DDR4 3200 RAM, Samsung 960 EVO 1TB NVMe m.2 SSD. EVGA 750W 80 Plus Platinum power supply.
     


     
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/15 02:01:57 (permalink)
    Which you use? 8gb ram or 4gb to get 16gb?

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/15 22:28:22 (permalink)
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    Which you use? 8gb ram or 4gb to get 16gb?


    I use 2X16GB to get 32GB in my system. It's overkill but i didn't want to worry about running out of memory in any game or program.


     
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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/16 12:39:20 (permalink)
    Definitely agree on NOT cheaping out on a  PSU.... always get a gold rated or higher unit.   
     
    All of your other high end PC build parts are dependant on your PSU to deliver solid, clean power .... 

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/16 14:15:55 (permalink)
    I would go 9700k. IIRC they have the soldered lid, and not the Thermal paste lid? Worth it. Also, I have had every 6core I7 since they have come out, and the 8 core seems to be better than the 6cores. I have no idea why? Maybe the 2* = 4 *2 = 8 *2 = 16 *2 = 32. 6 core always seems a little behind, and 4 core and 8 cores seems to do better. Just my experience.
     
    32gb memory, all day, every day. If you ever up to a 12gb video card, nvidia STILL says to have 2x the ram of the video card, and 16gb is not enough(even though people have run 12gb video cards in 16gb rigs, nvidia still said the card would degrade over time and stop working because it didnt have enough mobo memory. Better safe than sorry, and 32gb gives you glass like experience anyway).
     
    I am also a fan of high end power supplies. I have cheaped out 1 time on a power supply (2001) with an Antec, and it is the only one that ever went out. And it went out with a bang and fire. :( Have kept with Corsair high end until the x1200, then they just seemed to stop making super high grade psu's (cheaped out on some components), so now I get whatever is cheapest at the time in the gold catagory reviewed from Hardocp . com, or I use my old psu in my new rig and put an older psu in my old rig (keeps costs down), until the psu gets to be too old to handle a new build.
     
    My opine, from building rigs since 1995.

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    Re: New build advice needed! 2019/01/16 17:21:12 (permalink)
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    I would go 9700k. IIRC they have the soldered lid, and not the Thermal paste lid? Worth it. Also, I have had every 6core I7 since they have come out, and the 8 core seems to be better than the 6cores. I have no idea why? Maybe the 2* = 4 *2 = 8 *2 = 16 *2 = 32. 6 core always seems a little behind, and 4 core and 8 cores seems to do better. Just my experience.
     
    32gb memory, all day, every day. If you ever up to a 12gb video card, nvidia STILL says to have 2x the ram of the video card, and 16gb is not enough(even though people have run 12gb video cards in 16gb rigs, nvidia still said the card would degrade over time and stop working because it didnt have enough mobo memory. Better safe than sorry, and 32gb gives you glass like experience anyway).
     
    I am also a fan of high end power supplies. I have cheaped out 1 time on a power supply (2001) with an Antec, and it is the only one that ever went out. And it went out with a bang and fire. :( Have kept with Corsair high end until the x1200, then they just seemed to stop making super high grade psu's (cheaped out on some components), so now I get whatever is cheapest at the time in the gold catagory reviewed from Hardocp . com, or I use my old psu in my new rig and put an older psu in my old rig (keeps costs down), until the psu gets to be too old to handle a new build.
     
    My opine, from building rigs since 1995.


    Dave3d
     
     
    32gb memory, all day, every day. If you ever up to a 12gb video card, nvidia STILL says to have 2x the ram of the video card, and 16gb is not enough(even though people have run 12gb video cards in 16gb rigs, nvidia still said the card would degrade over time and stop working because it didnt have enough mobo memory. Better safe than sorry, and 32gb gives you glass like experience anyway).
     
     



    Ive never heard of this before do you have a link would like to read about this.

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