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New build - a bit of help required

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2019/03/28 00:44:59 (permalink)
Hello EVGAns,
 
I wish to ask about many things, which are not so obvious for me. I finally managed to start building new PC upon X299 Dark, but will be long and a bit painfully proces divided in many stages of adding newer components. For now I must start with totally basic setup - mobo, cpu, ram, heatsink and perhaps a case. Rest will be added later with time . Target cpu is i9 9900X, so the first thing, which I need to find and match is heatsink.
 
About HS [solved - Dark Rock Pro 4 choosen]
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Therefore target HS was Noctua NH-D15S. As far as I know it is best air cooler, but there are few interferences with X299 Dark - like covering first PCIe x16 slot, VRMs or spacing with RAM. Im aware that is huge radiator and I've digged a bit around for information and screens. I've found few replacements like BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua D9L and I've also looked at Corsair H60 - NH-D15S price is limit for now. But Im unsure that AIO won't wear over time decrasing its performance. For now I have old CoolerMaster V8 ver1 from 2009 built for socket 1366/775 and can't find kit to upgrade it to 2011v3/2066 yet, but Im also unsure it will even work - 2066 cpus are a bit larger than those at 775. And first thing is: which will be best, if not NH-D15S? I'll bet Dark Rock, but do you have any advices?
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Next thing is chasis.
-edit- [solved - Thermaltake View 71 TG RGB]
post edited by xxx.514 - 2019/04/18 09:04:13



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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/03/28 03:25:45 (permalink)
    Did you call coolermaster and ask them for a v8 install kit for your socket? If they don't have it you can make one yourself or have one made by a company, if theres none out there that will work. The AIO coolers have been out for awhile now and many of the bugs have been conquered, so they will last just as long as anything else if you take care of it. You don't have to worry so much about them. The noctua coolers are very good and if you really want that you may be able to change the install orientation from side to side to up and down instead to make it work or mod the fins a little to get it to work too. That's up to you though.

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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/03/28 03:38:02 (permalink)
    Not yet, I even didin't know that such kits may be ordered. However feet of first version (RR-UV8-XBU1-GP) of V8 won't be too small for LGA2066 cpu?
     
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    I've made some approximations and pixel counting from existing screns of NH-D15S and mine V8 - feet of V8 seems to be 8mm smaller, thats why I afraid into overexploiting this fine old cooler. Anyway, should I bother Cooler Master support?
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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/03/28 04:44:26 (permalink)
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    Not yet, I even didin't know that such kits may be ordered. However feet of first version (RR-UV8-XBU1-GP) of V8 won't be too small for LGA2066 cpu?
     
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    I've made some approximations and pixel counting from existing screns of NH-D15S and mine V8 - feet of V8 seems to be 8mm smaller, thats why I afraid into overexploiting this fine old cooler. Anyway, should I bother Cooler Master support?


    That's up to you, if you want to use that cooler. Calling them may even get you some answers on that question and the mounting plate.

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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/03/28 13:59:26 (permalink)
    HS has been choosen - it will be BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4. Now the case left. Most interesting I've found are SilentiumPC Armis AR7X TG RGB - but I must ask manufacturer about EATX support, Thermaltake View 71 TG, CoolerMaster Stormtrooper / Stryker, BitFenix Colossus / Enso Mesh / Aurora. Any thoughts about those or do you have other interesting chasis to check?



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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/03/28 19:41:03 (permalink)
    Cases are a different story.... as far as im concerned cause they are a very personal decision. Depending on the attributes your shooting for it could be a large list. Ive built enough pc's over the years that I wont do small/medium size cases for myself, especially, but even for people I have to build for I try to push them to a full tower if they are going to be the type of person that's going to be modding and switching parts etc... and im the guy that's going to have to do all the work. Im kinda partial to the upper end Lian-Li's, Mountain mods, Case labs, Little devil, etc... because you can do so much with them and they are well built with a great aftermarket for parts.

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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/03/28 23:50:44 (permalink)
    Mainly I don't want to have a chasis which looks just like block of plastic. A bit of design is highly approved - some curvings, irregularities, broken lines, transparent side or even front... Additionaly, I wish to have possibility of mounting CLC up to 280mm, but firsth thing is air cooling not less than 165 mm tall. Airflow is also thing that im counting. Also it must be capable of holding EATX size mobos. Unfortunately, BitFenix cases which I've typed are too small, what greatly tightens first part of choosen cases. 5,25" mounting bay will be apriciated, but is not necessary. Also dust filters are things, which strengthen position of case in my searchings. For now, SilentiumPC and Thermaltake cases left, where Im waiting for e-mail from manufacturer of first one. What makes me to throw searching nets again.
     
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    I've got response from SilentiumPC - AR7 has posibility to put EATX inside, but cable management will be nearly imposible.
    Therefore, I have to choose between:
    - mid-tower Thermaltake View 37 RGB
    - full-tower Thermaltake View 71 TG RGB
    - full-tower Aerocool XPredator II
     
    And be wise which one to take...
     
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    Thermaltake View 71 - its quite big to have space for modifications in future, good dust protection, is quiet and cool beacouse of tempered glass panels. Moreover it has 4 build in fans and has possibility to mount graphic card vertically.
    post edited by xxx.514 - 2019/04/01 08:12:34



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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/04/18 09:08:59 (permalink)
    Now another thing - SLI and Dark support.
    At old PC it was working, at least it was detected and setted up in nVidia control panel. At new mobo I cannot figure out how to make it running again. Drivers were reinstalled few times using DDU from Guru3D. My BIOS is v1.07, where I've seen that 1.17 had note that i9-9800X had problems with PCIe lines. Therefore 9900X may suffer that issue too?



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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/04/18 09:12:49 (permalink)
    CLC all the way.  I wouldn't do an air cooler ever again in my lifetime.  

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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/04/18 09:33:41 (permalink)
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    Now another thing - SLI and Dark support.
    At old PC it was working, at least it was detected and setted up in nVidia control panel. At new mobo I cannot figure out how to make it running again. Drivers were reinstalled few times using DDU from Guru3D. My BIOS is v1.07, where I've seen that 1.17 had note that i9-9800X had problems with PCIe lines. Therefore 9900X may suffer that issue too?


     
    You installed 2 GPU & SLI is Not working ?
     
    What Version of Win 10 ? (1803, 1809 ....)
     
    Which Nvidia Driver - did you download direct from Nvidia ?
     
    Any errors in Device Manager ?
     
    Did you use the Supplemental PCIe 6-pin Power Connector ?

    Support Manual for EVGA X299 Dark (151-SX-E299)
    PCIe slot breakdown covered on p 26 - 30
     
    It will depend on many things / what hardware you install M.2
     
     
    Intel i9-9900X - Has 44 PCIe lanes
     
     
     

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    Re: New build - a bit of help required 2019/04/19 09:49:42 (permalink)
    Delirious
    CLC all the way.  I wouldn't do an air cooler ever again in my lifetime.  


    Insufficient founds for EVGA 280 nor NZXT Kraken for now, however AIDA64 shows no more than 47*C at CPU; but maybe in future I will change to CLC.
     
    Cool GTX
     
    You installed 2 GPU & SLI is Not working ?
     
    What Version of Win 10 ? (1803, 1809 ....)
     
    Which Nvidia Driver - did you download direct from Nvidia ?
     
    Any errors in Device Manager ?
     
    Did you use the Supplemental PCIe 6-pin Power Connector ?
     
    PCIe slot breakdown covered on p 26 - 30
     
    It will depend on many things / what hardware you install M.2
     




    Version of Windows 10 is Windows 7 Ultimate, I don't want to change OS yet.
    nV driver - 341.02, last for 9600GT, same as in previous machine directly from nVidia site.
    No errors in device manager, both GPUs are properly installed, moreover - nVidia control panel shows at home page that it has detected 2x 9600GT.
    I have nothing more than those GPUs in PCIe slots. Tryied many configurations - PE1+PE4, PE2+PE6, PE1+PE3 - no difference, nV control panel won't show SLI setting. I even tryied with SLI bridge from previous machine, same effect.
    And no, I haven't additional PCIe power connector attached at bottom of PCIe slots - my current PSU havent any left. I suppose if it will be only power related issues, it should keep resetting or turning off under load, what is not happening so far.
     
    Ahh, one more thing - mobo is recognizing them as PCIe gen1, not gen2; but maybe that is related to power, however im not completly sure.
    post edited by xxx.514 - 2019/04/19 10:18:30



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