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2019/03/15 06:55:55 (permalink)
The new GPU Core 22 is released (starting with project 11733) to Advanced,
see Folding Forum Announcements:  GPU CORE22 (OpenMM 7.2, Win/Lin, OpenCL) going to ADVANCED
 

By rafwiewiora,  Thu Mar 14, 2019
 
The new GPU Core 22 is here! This is based on OpenMM 7.2 - we're starting with the OpenCL version first, with CUDA joining in one of the next few versions. Stability is as good as Core 21 in beta testing - there were reports of AMD GPU underutilization that we would like to hear more about if you notice it.
 
The deadline and credit were adjusted to increase the PPDs by the performance speedup / increase in science produced (speedup is ~20% on 1080/1080Ti benchmark machine). Please watch out for temperature and wattage increases, and consider reducing OC.
 
Project stats:
 
11733 (DHFR benchmark)
core: Core22 0.0.1
# atoms: 23558
credit: 7498
k-factor: 0.75
timeout: 5.8d
deadline: 8.2d
precision: mixed
 
Thank you all!

 
There is also a thread with more info and feedback from Folding Forum members, see: Core 22 on Advanced
 
Edit:  Due to many problems, Project 11733 and Core 22 are off Advanced now, see post #7       

Edit 2: See also the Updated Announcement thread:

By rafwiewiora » Fri Mar 15, 2019

Advanced testing stopped for now, due to high failure rate. Thank you all and apologies for troubles!

post edited by DutchForce - 2019/03/15 13:56:22



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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 08:46:18 (permalink)
    i love how they mention to watch OC and having a higher GPU utilization is GREAT!
     


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 08:51:55 (permalink)
    Posted here as well https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2933958 started to get them yesterday and that is ALL I am getting.
     
    07:44:36:WU01:FS00:0x22:Folding@home Core Shutdown: BAD_WORK_UNIT
    07:44:37:WARNING:WU01:FS00:FahCore returned: BAD_WORK_UNIT (114 = 0x72)
    07:44:37:WU01:FS00:Sending unit results: id:01 state:SEND error:FAULTY project:11733 run:0 clone:173 gen:66 core:0x22 unit:0x000000468ca304f15c82bccdacd324d2
    07:44:37:WU01:FS00:Uploading 5.79MiB to 140.163.4.241
    Thread on BAD_WORK_UNIT
    https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31459#p305745
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/03/15 09:21:43


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 09:43:09 (permalink)
    are they really that much more sensitive to OC? well, even if they are a highe GPU utilization will offset the lower clock speeds to reach a stable point.


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 10:25:45 (permalink)
    Do I need to modify my client config to run these or are they found in the wild?

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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 10:30:25 (permalink)
    diatribe
    Do I need to modify my client config to run these or are they found in the wild?

    client-type = advanced


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 11:08:18 (permalink)
    Update from the Project owner Rafal Wiewiora, see: Core 22 on Advanced
     

    By rafwiewiora, Fri Mar 15, 2019

    With the explosion of problems between beta and advanced (which is only a 2.5x increase from ~400 --> ~ 1000 GPUs), this unfortunately might be the only way to learn - I worry we might not have a diverse enough representation of systems in beta right now. Anyways, it's off advanced now, thank you all for your sacrifices.  I get nice science logs with system configurations for all the failures now, so we'll go from there, see you with the next version!

     
    Edit: See also the Updated Announcement thread:

    By rafwiewiora » Fri Mar 15, 2019

    Advanced testing stopped for now, due to high failure rate. Thank you all and apologies for troubles!

    post edited by DutchForce - 2019/03/15 13:58:09



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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 11:28:02 (permalink)
    well... that's one way of doing testing... 


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 11:51:17 (permalink)
     
    I snagged a few 11733 WU 
     
    PPD through the Roof & yes Heavy GPU action - even if only on those 11733 WU
     
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 11:55:37 (permalink)
    https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31459#p305757
    by rafwiewiora » 15 Mar 2019, 12:43
    Also copying that here: With the explosion of problems between beta and advanced (which is only a 2.5x increase from ~400 --> ~ 1000 GPUs), this unfortunately might be the only way to learn - I worry we might not have a diverse enough representation of systems in beta right now. Anyways, it's off advanced now, thank you all for your sacrifices. I get nice science logs with system configurations for all the failures now, so we'll go from there, see you with the next version!


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:30:27 (permalink)
    So that's why poof (my dual 2080ti rig) is pulling 5.2m PPD.  I'll take it 
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:40:56 (permalink)
    So, we need to download and install the new client 7.5.1 right, for the core 22 projects? 
     
    https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/
     
     
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:42:20 (permalink)
    I haven't updated mine.
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:45:28 (permalink)
    Holdolin
    I haven't updated mine.

    What version are you running if not 7.5.1?
    Core 22 was Pulled. 
    I am only seeing OPENMM_21 (0.18) or Core 21 WU now.
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:46:49 (permalink)
    My main folding one is running 7.4.4 I wasn't sure if the client would update or we had to actually install 7.5.1
     
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:48:50 (permalink)
    I would update if running Windows.
    I have Been running 7.5.1 for ever it seems now.


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:48:55 (permalink)
    ^^ derp help a noob out. My main folder is win 7, but it has been on 7.4.4 
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:51:25 (permalink)
    notfordman
    ^^ derp help a noob out. My main folder is win 7, but it has been on 7.4.4 


    Been running 7.5.1 since June of 2018.
    We get dumb error messages the mean nothing but other than this I have not had any issues with 7.5.1.
     
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:52:57 (permalink)
    Guess I will finish WU, and update to new client. Didn't know new one was out. 
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:53:52 (permalink)
    Holdolin
    I haven't updated mine.


    What client are you on Holdolin? 
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 17:54:59 (permalink)
    Just Pause after you Finish and then Save and then Exit and then Quite then update.
    All my installs went fine with just updating from 7.4.4


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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 18:04:23 (permalink)
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    Holdolin
    I haven't updated mine.

    What version are you running if not 7.5.1?
    Core 22 was Pulled. 
    I am only seeing OPENMM_21 (0.18) or Core 21 WU now.


    7.5.1.  I might have been finishing up WU's when I posted.  To be honest i'm not even sure what WU's I run.  I just install the software and let it do it's thing.  I watch enough to keep tabs on my output and ssh in to  keep tabs on the hardware.  Other than that I'm off doing other things.
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 19:02:09 (permalink)
    7.5.1 has many "errors messages to clear"
     
    I'll have to look at one of my machines for the verbiage
     
    It is not a show stopper ... just many worthless errors to look at
     
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/15 20:12:13 (permalink)
    The client just gets the task and sends it back, it is the core that does the real work.
    I still am on the older 7.4.4. Unless they make it so it won't get WUs, don't fix it if it ain't broke.
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/16 01:02:35 (permalink)
    Well core 22 will work you GPU's for sure.  I had to back my power on my cards down to 100 percent.  When letting them have over voltage my 1500 battery backup units started screaming since they where pulling more juice than the battery had.  Cool thing is went from the lately points of 4.2 million to currently 6.5 million PPD.
     
     
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/16 10:22:47 (permalink)
    Ok, then I'm stupid and confused. I updated both my PC's to 7.5.1 , I was thinking 7.4.4 wouldn't allow the new core units. 
    ^^^ Told ya' NOOB! [me]  
     
    That's a nice jump Scott! 
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/16 11:24:01 (permalink)
    https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=31455&p=305753#p305775
    by Joe_H » 16 Mar 2019, 10:51Internal and Beta testing of Core 22 has show it will more fully utilize a GPU compared to Core 21.  So a setup that is stable on current Core 21 projects may not be stable with this core.  As mentioned there may be additional issues that this brief test on Advanced on a wider range of cards will reveal.
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/16 12:32:15 (permalink)
    https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=31455&p=305753#p305782 
    Re: Core 22 on Advanced
    by Joe_H » 16 Mar 2019, 13:15That is yours, and only yours interpretation.
    F@h has never supported overclocking officially, and problems caused by overclocking whether from the factory or by the user need to be handled by them.  That may include taking off or reducing a factory overclock to get a GPU to be folding stable.  nVidia has established clock speeds for their different GPU chips, binning by manufacturers may allow higher speeds.  But the GPU's at those higher speeds are only warranted to be game stable, not necessarily data crunching stable.
    The same applies to overclocking CPU's and overclocking them.
    As for getting Core 22 projects, they have been returned to Beta while they examine the work logs to see if there is a pattern to the failures.  They may release an updated version and put that out for testing.
     
    Oh Well.
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/16 12:59:55 (permalink)
    notfordman
    Ok, then I'm stupid and confused. I updated both my PC's to 7.5.1 , I was thinking 7.4.4 wouldn't allow the new core units. 
    ^^^ Told ya' NOOB! [me]  
     
    That's a nice jump Scott! 
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    Re: New GPU Core 22 released (to advanced) 2019/03/16 13:56:25 (permalink)
    OPENMM_22 (0.1) or Core 22 takes more CPU power now as well.
    On Core 21 the CPU is only showing 6-8% Usage and Core 22 is showing 14-16% Usage.
    Running client-type = beta to run some tasks to see what I need to Reduce the GPU Power Down to.
    I reduced Memory from +400 to +300 and the GPU Down from 2050MHz to 2037MHz on my RYZEN Rig
     
    Notes about the EXE File.
    This device does not support double precision???????
    Not seeing of they are using NVIDIA's NEW OpenCL as used in newer 4xx.xx Drivers form what I can see.
    AVX support Required
    I Found this in the file const real PI = 3.14159265358979323846f;  

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