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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/20 19:53:16 (permalink)
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It'll be around 21.7... I rounded. I don't have any saved runs handy because why would I run my 24/7 clocks through a 3 minute benchmark?

Averaging 2002mhz got me 21,919. That I have: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22832098

I'm not going to keep replying to your off-topic discussions, and I already regret doing so in the first place. Apologies to OP. Please feel free to DM if you need additional guidance due to your thread running off the rails.



Come on man.  I know how to read 3DMark.  That run was done at full power with a fat OC, like +150 or +180.  2,130mhz peak and sustaining in the mid 2,000's for the GPU test.  Not the 1,980mhz locked I asked about.  The average clock shown includes the CPU bench where GPU clock falls off a cliff.
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/20 20:04:49 (permalink)
... that is literally what I said.

I don't have any saved runs using my 24/7 clocks and I'm not quite sure why you would expect me to. If I'm running the benchmark it's to maximize the score, not to run auto-fan at speeds that need to hold up to hours of scrutiny.


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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/20 20:12:28 (permalink)
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... that is literally what I said.

I don't have any saved runs using my 24/7 clocks and I'm not quite sure why you would expect me to. If I'm running the benchmark it's to maximize the score, not to run auto-fan at speeds that need to hold up to hours of scrutiny.



You posted an OC run that is an example of how the card should be run for 4K120 gaming - maxed out.  Maybe dial it back 15 or 30 on the core and 500 back on the memory for stability.  Temps are reasonable.  No need to undervolt and leave 5-10% on the table that you paid a premium for.
 
If you want your PC silent, or run games or res where you don't need all the power, or require mission critical stability for your gaming, set it how you want.  (side note, many people's undervolts are not stable outside a few games or tests, as with most OC's)
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/20 20:21:09 (permalink)
Actual last reply: It leaves absolutely nothing on the table and certainly not 10%. The temps are reasonable in the OC run because it's 100% fan. If I was locking the clocks by undervolting for the purposes of the benchmark score, it'd be under those same conditions. It wouldn't be 1980, likely 2025+.

1980 was the target in the thread because that is what the "Max OC" clocks normalize to when you run something longer than the 3 irrelevant minutes of Time Spy. Trying to compare that to the "max score" shows how far off base you really are.

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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/20 20:26:35 (permalink)
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Actual last reply: It leaves absolutely nothing on the table and certainly not 10%. The temps are reasonable in the OC run because it's 100% fan. If I was locking the clocks by undervolting for the purposes of the benchmark score, it'd be under those same conditions. It wouldn't be 1980, likely 2025+.

1980 was the target in the thread because that is what the "Max OC" clocks normalize to when you run something longer than the 3 irrelevant minutes of Time Spy. Trying to compare that to the "max score" shows how far off base you really are.

Have a good one.



I asked for actual 1980mhz undervolt 3DMark runs in your other thread.  Please provide them if you get a chance.
 
Thanks for the lively and civilized discussion.
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/21 03:57:39 (permalink)
I had more or less the same temps with my 3080 ti FTW3 Ultra @ stock.
I would not say I have a bad Airflow due the facht I use a MEshify 2 XL with 3 Noctua 140mm fans in Front, a 480mm aio on the top and 1 Noctua 140mm on the back.
 
With this setup I had temps between 88°C-93°C. (At 93/94°C the cards starts to reduce the clock) with Fans on Auto, which was furthermore to loud for me. 
So i changed to a watercool solution. Now the temps are fine including a small OC (Powertarget +10%, Mem +750Mhz, GPU +100Mhz) max temps are 57°C. Im happy now :)
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/21 05:18:00 (permalink)
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I had more or less the same temps with my 3080 ti FTW3 Ultra @ stock.
I would not say I have a bad Airflow due the facht I use a MEshify 2 XL with 3 Noctua 140mm fans in Front, a 480mm aio on the top and 1 Noctua 140mm on the back.
 
With this setup I had temps between 88°C-93°C. (At 93/94°C the cards starts to reduce the clock) with Fans on Auto, which was furthermore to loud for me. 
So i changed to a watercool solution. Now the temps are fine including a small OC (Powertarget +10%, Mem +750Mhz, GPU +100Mhz) max temps are 57°C. Im happy now :)




That's crazy.  Any signs you had a bad mount when you pulled the card apart?  With reasonably higher fan speed (80%-90% card, 1500rpm+ case fan speed with good air flow) any of the current FTW3 cards should do 70C at 400w with 20C ambient.
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/21 05:37:36 (permalink)
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I had more or less the same temps with my 3080 ti FTW3 Ultra @ stock.
I would not say I have a bad Airflow due the facht I use a MEshify 2 XL with 3 Noctua 140mm fans in Front, a 480mm aio on the top and 1 Noctua 140mm on the back.
 
With this setup I had temps between 88°C-93°C. (At 93/94°C the cards starts to reduce the clock) with Fans on Auto, which was furthermore to loud for me. 
So i changed to a watercool solution. Now the temps are fine including a small OC (Powertarget +10%, Mem +750Mhz, GPU +100Mhz) max temps are 57°C. Im happy now :)




That's crazy.  Any signs you had a bad mount when you pulled the card apart?  With reasonably higher fan speed (80% card, 1500rpm+ case fan speed with good air flow) any of the current FTW3 cards should do 70C at 400w with 20C ambient.




My card at stock, when running for example the OCCT 3d stress test or the Power test used to get up to 80-83C when I left everything at default. I had to use the aggressive fan curve preset and now it stays at 75-77C while under stress. My case is decent on airflow. I have the two metal panels off of my Phanteks P600s. Two 140mm intake fans in the front, 360mm cpu aio as exhaust on top. The rear fan is also exhaust I believe. I'm not even pulling more than 395-398w. It idles around 27-30C at times.

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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/21 05:59:40 (permalink)
So, apparently this thread ends up being about Case Airflow... I just built a rig for my 13 year old with a Fractal Meshify 2 Compact, and that computer runs real cool. I haven't seen the CPU get over 41C.. I haven't really been checking the GPU, but it is a 6700XT as that is all I could get...
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/21 06:09:10 (permalink)
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I had more or less the same temps with my 3080 ti FTW3 Ultra @ stock.
I would not say I have a bad Airflow due the facht I use a MEshify 2 XL with 3 Noctua 140mm fans in Front, a 480mm aio on the top and 1 Noctua 140mm on the back.
 
With this setup I had temps between 88°C-93°C. (At 93/94°C the cards starts to reduce the clock) with Fans on Auto, which was furthermore to loud for me. 
So i changed to a watercool solution. Now the temps are fine including a small OC (Powertarget +10%, Mem +750Mhz, GPU +100Mhz) max temps are 57°C. Im happy now :)




That's crazy.  Any signs you had a bad mount when you pulled the card apart?  With reasonably higher fan speed (80% card, 1500rpm+ case fan speed with good air flow) any of the current FTW3 cards should do 70C at 400w with 20C ambient.




My card at stock, when running for example the OCCT 3d stress test or the Power test used to get up to 80-83C when I left everything at default. I had to use the aggressive fan curve preset and now it stays at 75-77C while under stress. My case is decent on airflow. I have the two metal panels off of my Phanteks P600s. Two 140mm intake fans in the front, 360mm cpu aio as exhaust on top. The rear fan is also exhaust I believe. I'm not even pulling more than 395-398w. It idles around 27-30C at times.




Recommend using fixed fan speeds with these high power cards, either through X1 and your MB software, or "Fan Control" freeware.  Takes 30 seconds to switch over to manual.  That includes case fans - front intakes over 1500RPM, card fans 80%+.  This cuts down on heatsoak in the case and gets the PC to cool down faster when power drops off temporarily while gaming.  It's also less distracting at a constant speed allowing higher fan speeds to be tolerated better.
 
Ambient and room airflow plays a big role, if you're at 25C ambient and your PC heats up the air surrounding it to 30C, it's going to run 10C warmer than someone who has fresh 20C air feeding their PC all the time.
 
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/21 06:29:45 (permalink)
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So, apparently this thread ends up being about Case Airflow... I just built a rig for my 13 year old with a Fractal Meshify 2 Compact, and that computer runs real cool. I haven't seen the CPU get over 41C.. I haven't really been checking the GPU, but it is a 6700XT as that is all I could get...




Always was.
 
Yeah the newer midrange stuff runs super chill if you have even reasonably good cooling.  I had a i5-10400 spare PC maxed out at like 82w on Prime 95 AVX and it got to the mid 40C's - on a 120mm AIO.    Have a 5600G in the spare PC now and it's also real chilly but haven't done thermal/power testing.
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Re: New EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 U reaching 88-94c while gaming. 2021/09/22 01:15:17 (permalink)
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I had more or less the same temps with my 3080 ti FTW3 Ultra @ stock.
I would not say I have a bad Airflow due the facht I use a MEshify 2 XL with 3 Noctua 140mm fans in Front, a 480mm aio on the top and 1 Noctua 140mm on the back.
 
With this setup I had temps between 88°C-93°C. (At 93/94°C the cards starts to reduce the clock) with Fans on Auto, which was furthermore to loud for me. 
So i changed to a watercool solution. Now the temps are fine including a small OC (Powertarget +10%, Mem +750Mhz, GPU +100Mhz) max temps are 57°C. Im happy now :)




That's crazy.  Any signs you had a bad mount when you pulled the card apart?  With reasonably higher fan speed (80%-90% card, 1500rpm+ case fan speed with good air flow) any of the current FTW3 cards should do 70C at 400w with 20C ambient.




When I dismantled the card, I didn't notice anything special. I also felt that enough thermal paste had been applied.
The ambient temperature at my place is around 23-24°C.
It's also possible that I got a rather bad chip.
 
The maximum OC I achieved with my water-cooled card with the benchmark "Port Royal" (3mhz more on GPU and it crashed) was:
GPU: +177Mhz
Mem: +1150Mhz (maybe more would be possible)
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1204941
 
Compared to what I have seen on the web, this is rather moderate.
 
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